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Originally posted by Jugflier:
Hhmmmnnn, we will have to give up our empire. Boy Dick Chaney, Haliburton and the neo cons just had their heart skipa beat.

I'll tell you one thing. that's one heck uva congressional district that keeps sending that guy to Washington.


Juggie,

That meme of America as an empire is straight from the old Stalinist playbook circa 1950. Then, it was Truman who was the bad old imperialist. You need to get newer material.
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Originally posted by elinterventor01:
quote:
Originally posted by Jugflier:
Hhmmmnnn, we will have to give up our empire. Boy Dick Chaney, Haliburton and the neo cons just had their heart skipa beat.

I'll tell you one thing. that's one heck uva congressional district that keeps sending that guy to Washington.


Juggie,

That meme of America as an empire is straight from the old Stalinist playbook circa 1950. Then, it was Truman who was the bad old imperialist. You need to get newer material.


Hey there CIA man.
How about this?
http://www.informationclearing...info/article3249.htm
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Subject areas are arranged under 4 categories: A. Pax Americana — outlining the rationale for global empire, B. Securing Global Hegemony — pinpointing regions that are considered trouble spots for U.S. policy, C. Rebuilding the Military — plans for expansion of U.S. military might, and D. Future Wars of Pax Americana — the "RAD" vision of complete control of land, sea, air, space and cyberspace.


Or even this?
http://www.newamericancentury....AmericasDefenses.pdf
This document actually provided the blue print for the invasion of Iraq some 8 years before Bush/Cheney crime family implemented it.

Or just take your pick from any of these.
http://www.google.com/search?s...america%27s+defenses

It is Dick Cheney, after this document was written, who lamented that there was no will among the american populace to implement it and suggested that we needed a "Pearl harbor type event" to galvanise the American populace into agreeing to it's implementation.
Project for the New American Century, also called PNAC.

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The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) is a neo-conservative think tank with strong ties to the American Enterprise Institute. PNAC's web site says it was "established in the spring of 1997" as "a non-profit, educational organization whose goal is to promote American global leadership."

PNAC's policy document, "Rebuilding America's Defences," openly advocates for total global military domination. Many PNAC members hold highest-level positions in the George W. Bush administration. The Project is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project (501c3).

In 2009 two of PNAC's founders, William Kristol and Robert Kagan, began what some termed "PNAC 2.0," The Foreign Policy Initiative.


Here are the 25 signatories of this document. You will see familiar names from the Bush White house including that arch criminal himself, Dick Cheney.

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Elliott Abrams, a former Reagan-era Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs. During the Iran/Contra scandal, Abrams pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of lying to Congress but was later pardoned by the first Bush administration. He subsequently became president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. He is currently a member of Bush's National Security Council.
Gary Bauer, a Republican presidential candidate in 2000, who currently is president of an organization named American Values.
William J. Bennett, who served during the Reagan and first Bush administrations as U.S. Secretary of Education and Drug Czar. Upon leaving government office, Bennett became a "distinguished fellow" at the conservative Heritage Foundation, co-founded Empower America, and established himself as a self-proclaimed expert on morality with his authorship of The Book of Virtues.
Jeb Bush, the son of former President George Herbert Walker Bush and brother of current President George W. Bush. At the time of PNAC's founding, Jeb Bush was a candidate for the Florida governor's seat, a position which he currently holds.
Dick Cheney, the former White House Chief of Staff to Gerald R. Ford, six-term Congressman, and Secretary of Defense to the first President Bush, was serving as president of the oil-services giant Halliburton Company at the time of PNAC's founding. He subsequently became U.S. vice president under George W. Bush.
Eliot A. Cohen, a professor of strategic studies at John Hopkins University
Paula Dobriansky, vice president and director of the Washington office of the Council on Foreign Relations. Currently Dobriansky serves in the Bush administration as Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs.
Steve Forbes, publisher, billionaire, and Republican presidential candidate in 1996 and 2000. Forbes has also campaigned actively on behalf of the "flat tax," which would reduce the federal tax burden for wealthy individuals like himself.
Aaron Friedberg, professor of politics and international affairs; Director, Center of International Studies; Director, Research Program in International Security, Woodrow Wilson School, Princeton University.
Francis Fukuyama, author of The End of History and the Last Man; Dean of the Faculty and Bernard L. Schwartz Professor of International Political Economy at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) at Johns Hopkins University. Appointed to the President's Council on Bioethics by George W. Bush, January 2002.
Frank Gaffney - conservative columnist; founder and president of the Center for Security Policy in Washington, D.C. Web-site: http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/
Fred C. Ikle, "distinguished scholar" at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
Donald Kagan, professor of history and classics at Yale University and the author of books including While America Sleeps: Self-Delusion, Military Weakness, and the Threat to Peace Today; A Twilight Struggle: American Power and Nicaragua, 1977-1990; and The Origins of War and the Preservation of Peace. Kagan is also a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a contributing editor at the Weekly Standard and a Washington Post columnist, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Alexander Hamilton fellow in American diplomatic history at American University. Past experience includes: Deputy for Policy in the State Department's Bureau of Inter-American Affairs (1985-1988); State Department's Policy Planning Staff member (1984-1985); speechwriter to Secretary of State George P. Shultz (1984-1985); foreign policy advisor to Congressman Jack Kemp (1983); Special Assistant to the Deputy Director of the United States Information Agency (1983); Assistant Editor at the Public Interest (1981).
Zalmay Khalilzad, an Afghan-American who was the only Muslim among the group's original signatories and the only signatory who was not a native-born U.S. citizen. Khalilzad has became the Bush administration's special envoy to Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban as well as is special envoy to the Iraqi opposition to Saddam Hussein. Khalilzad has written about information warfare, and in 1996 (in pre-Taliban days), he served as a consultant to the oil company Unocal Corporation (UNOCAL) regarding a "risk analysis" for its proposed pipeline project through Afghanistan and Pakistan.
William Kristol, PNAC's chairman, is also editor of the Weekly Standard, a Washington-based political magazine. His past involvements have included: lead of the Project for the Republican Future, chief of staff to Vice President J. Danforth Quayle, chief of staff to Secretary of Education William J. Bennett under the Reagan administration, taught politics at the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.
I. Lewis Scooter Libby, who later became chief of staff for Vice President Dick Cheney.
Norman Podhoretz, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and author of works such as Patriotism and its Enemies.
J. Danforth Quayle, former vice president under President George Herbert Walker Bush and a presidential candidate himself in 1996.
Peter W. Rodman, who served in the State Department and the National Security Council under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush, became the current Bush administration's Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security affairs in 2001.
Stephen P. Rosen, Beton Michael Kaneb Professor of National Security and Military Affairs at Harvard University.
Henry S. Rowen was president of the RAND Corporation from 1967-1972. He served under former presidents Reagan and Bush as chairman of the National Intelligence Council (1981-83) and Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs (1989-91). He currently holds the title of "senior fellow" at the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace
Donald H. Rumsfeld served former President Gerald R. Ford as chief of transition after Richard M. Nixon's resignation, later becoming Ford's chief of staff and secretary of defense from 1974-75. He subsequently served from 1990-93 as CEO of General Instrument Corporation and later as Chairman of the Board of Gilead Sciences, a pharmaceutical company. In 1998 he served as chairman of the bi-partisan US Ballistic Missile Threat Commission. Under President George W. Bush, he once again assumed the post of Secretary of Defense.
Vin Weber, a former Republican congressman from Minnesota, is now a well-connected lobbyist who has represented such firms as AT&T, Lockheed Martin and Microsoft. Weber is also vice chairman of Empower America and a former fellow of the Progress and Freedom Foundation.
George Weigel, a Roman Catholic religious and political commentator, is a "senior fellow" at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz, formerly Dean and Professor of International Relations at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University, became Undersecretary of Defense for President George W. Bush in 2001.


http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind...New_American_Century
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
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Originally posted by elinterventor01:
quote:
Originally posted by Jugflier:
Hhmmmnnn, we will have to give up our empire. Boy Dick Chaney, Haliburton and the neo cons just had their heart skipa beat.

I'll tell you one thing. that's one heck uva congressional district that keeps sending that guy to Washington.


Juggie,

That meme of America as an empire is straight from the old Stalinist playbook circa 1950. Then, it was Truman who was the bad old imperialist. You need to get newer material.


Hey there CIA man.
How about this?
http://www.informationclearing...info/article3249.htm
quote:
Subject areas are arranged under 4 categories: A. Pax Americana — outlining the rationale for global empire, B. Securing Global Hegemony — pinpointing regions that are considered trouble spots for U.S. policy, C. Rebuilding the Military — plans for expansion of U.S. military might, and D. Future Wars of Pax Americana — the "RAD" vision of complete control of land, sea, air, space and cyberspace.


Or even this?
http://www.newamericancentury....AmericasDefenses.pdf
This document actually provided the blue print for the invasion of Iraq some 8 years before Bush/Cheney crime family implemented it.

Or just take your pick from any of these.
http://www.google.com/search?s...america%27s+defenses

It is Dick Cheney, after this document was written, who lamented that there was no will among the american populace to implement it and suggested that we needed a "Pearl harbor type event" to galvanise the American populace into agreeing to it's implementation.


Same old tired conspiracy theories, from the same tired, warmed over sites. FYI, Pax America was an old Operational Plan (OPPLAN) dreamed up in the 60s. I believed it was filed somewhere between the defense of western Europe from Soviet Invasion and the Alien Space Invasion OPPLANS, none of which were ever used.

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