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I've been reading about Gov Bentley calling for a special session to have a vote on a lottery to mainly help Alabama's general fund.  Alabama has an income tax, but instead of increasing tax on those who have the ability to pay more, he wants a lottery to help the poor pay more.  My advice is, from someone who lives in a state without an income tax, vote it down so the Alabama money spent in Tennessee on the lottery will keep helping my grandkids pay for college.                                                                                                                                      Also, don't believe the property tax stories. I have a plot of land in Alabama that appraises at $15,000, I can't sell it for $10,000 and I pay $164 property tax to Alabama. Tennessee rates are not that high. BTW, this land is 1/2 mile from the school. 

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But the poor will save on gas money by not having to drive to the state lines plus,  I don't believe the poor are required to buy lottery tickets and should know better.  I'm not poor and occasionally will buy one just for entertainment and don't expect to win.

"Also, don't believe the property tax stories. I have a plot of land in Alabama that appraises at $15,000, I can't sell it for $10,000 and I pay $164 property tax to Alabama. Tennessee rates are not that high. BTW, this land is 1/2 mile from the school." 

Believe it or not, Alabama has more than one school.  I happen to know this because I've attended five of them.

jtdavis posted:

I've been reading about Gov Bentley calling for a special session to have a vote on a lottery to mainly help Alabama's general fund.  Alabama has an income tax, but instead of increasing tax on those who have the ability to pay more, he wants a lottery to help the poor pay more.  My advice is, from someone who lives in a state without an income tax, vote it down so the Alabama money spent in Tennessee on the lottery will keep helping my grandkids pay for college.                                                                                                                                      Also, don't believe the property tax stories. I have a plot of land in Alabama that appraises at $15,000, I can't sell it for $10,000 and I pay $164 property tax to Alabama. Tennessee rates are not that high. BTW, this land is 1/2 mile from the school. 

Alabama state income tax goes towards the education budget and not the general fund which is in the most trouble. I really don't care if we get a lottery or not; it's a voluntary tax. I don't think it will help in the long run because it will extract money from people on the goobermint teat who can't afford to play which will cause them to demand more goobermint services. It will enrich the contractors operating the system though.

Why do you care what Alabama does?      Gifted, if you will read the post, the                                                                                      answer will appear to you

Believe it or not, Alabama has more than one school.  I happen to know this because I've attended five of them.     Uandurine, you got me, I forgot to put the name Lexington down. Sorry.

jtdavis posted:

Why do you care what Alabama does?      Gifted, if you will read the post, the                                                                                      answer will appear to you

Believe it or not, Alabama has more than one school.  I happen to know this because I've attended five of them.     Uandurine, you got me, I forgot to put the name Lexington down. Sorry.

I didn't attend that one but, I know many that did.

jtdavis posted:

Why do you care what Alabama does?      Gifted, if you will read the post, the                                                                                      answer will appear to you

Believe it or not, Alabama has more than one school.  I happen to know this because I've attended five of them.     Uandurine, you got me, I forgot to put the name Lexington down. Sorry.

I read it jt, and she asked what I always asked, you live in TN what does anything that goes on in Alabama have to do with you? Tend to TN business. Owning a "plot" of land doesn't give you the right to stick your nose in.

jtdavis posted:

Why do you care what Alabama does?      Gifted, if you will read the post, the                                                                                      answer will appear to you

Believe it or not, Alabama has more than one school.  I happen to know this because I've attended five of them.     Uandurine, you got me, I forgot to put the name Lexington down. Sorry.

Read it, question still stands.

I read it jt, and she asked what I always asked, you live in TN what does anything that goes on in Alabama have to do with you? Tend to TN business. 

When I drive to town, I almost always turn south into Alabama, I always use Alabama doctors and hospitals, while I worked, I paid Alabama nonresident tax for about 40 years. Odds and ends of stuff like that. From the way your elected people are tending to Alabama business, somebody needs to tend to Alabama business. Y'all keep reelecting the same incompetent ones. 

jtdavis posted:

I read it jt, and she asked what I always asked, you live in TN what does anything that goes on in Alabama have to do with you? Tend to TN business. 

When I drive to town, I almost always turn south into Alabama, I always use Alabama doctors and hospitals, while I worked, I paid Alabama nonresident tax for about 40 years. Odds and ends of stuff like that. From the way your elected people are tending to Alabama business, somebody needs to tend to Alabama business. Y'all keep reelecting the same incompetent ones. 

Our elected people and the rest of us must be doing something right, you can't stay away. Why don't you use TN doctors and hospitals? Again, Alabama must be doing something that suits your nosey ***. Typical demoslop, griping about people that help you. Alabama's business is just that, Alabama's business. Just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of land you have? Again, it would keep you busy if you tended to TN business. We go to TN all the time, but that doesn't give me the right to stick my nose into their politics and I don't use their doctors and hospitals.

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direstraits posted:
Jack Flash posted:
jtdavis posted:

jt didn't own the land.

Another of your lies, or was that satire? Satire is when you tell an unbelievable lie, isn't it?

No, satire is a planet between Mars and Uranalus...

 

Sorry, satire is a half man/half goat, playing a Pan flute while looking for nekkid women.

I had "herd" that those goat herders got pretty lonely.

The Tennessee Hope (lotto) Scholarship does not come close to covering the total cost of college and it's requirements would leave most ineligible.  As I've shown in the past, the lotto money for college has become more of a stipend that will only decrease further as time goes on.   Huge waste of money in my opinion.   

A person who spends $20/week on lotto tickets could invest that money into a Coverdell ESA, after 18 years they would have much more money than what the state would pay thru HOPE and they would not be subject to the eligibility requirements.  Plus, they can go to ANY school they choose.  Unfortunately this takes personal discipline, which automatically excludes the those who think like JT, and that's a lot of people.

https://www.tn.gov/collegepays...see-hope-scholarship

  • Entering freshmen must achieve a minimum of a 21 ACT (980 SAT), exclusive of the essay and optional subject area battery tests OR
  • Overall weighted* minimum 3.0 grade point average (GPA)
  • Home School graduates – minimum 21 ACT (980 SAT), exclusive of the essay and optional subject area battery tests
  • GED ® recipients – minimum 21 ACT (980 SAT), exclusive of the essay and optional subject area battery tests and qualifying GED ® score. Minimum average Revised GED ® score is 170.
  • HiSet recipients – minimum 21 ACT (980 SAT), exclusive of the essay and optional subject area battery tests and qualifying HiSet score. Minimum average HiSet score is 15.
  • ACT/SAT exams must be taken on a national test date or state test date and prior to the first day of college enrollment. The ACT Residual test is not accepted.
  • Must enroll within 16 months following high school graduation at any postsecondary institution. However, enrollment at an ineligible postsecondary institution during the 16 months will make the student permanently ineligible.

*Weighted grade point average means a grade point average on a 4.0 scale calculated with additional internal quality points awarded for advanced placement, honors or other similar courses according to the Uniform Grading Policy adopted by the State Board of Education.


AWARD AMOUNTS FOR THE TENNESSEE HOPE SCHOLARSHIP

For entering freshmen beginning with fall 2015 and thereafter

Four-Year Institutions and two-year institutions with on-campus housing: Up to $1,750 per full-time enrollment semester as a freshmen and sophomore; then up to $2,250 per full-time enrollment semester as a junior and senior

Two-Year Institutions: Up to $1,500 per full-time enrollment semester as a freshman and sophomore

  • Award amounts are available for summer enrollment
  • Class status is determined by the postsecondary institution

For students who first received HOPE in fall 2009 through summer 2015

Four-Year Institutions and two-year institutions with on-campus housing: Up to $2,000 per full-time enrollment semester; including summer

Two-Year Institutions: Up to $1,000 per full-time enrollment semester; including summer

- See more at: https://www.tn.gov/collegepays...sthash.7D9LxPjZ.dpuf

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It pays a lot more than nothing. The lottery was started to pay for college only. Sometime later, looking at the unlimited pile of money accumulating, some of it got "borrowed, took, or stole" to fund some preschool stuff. The pols couldn't understand why the pile was getting smaller.  Then they made some cuts to the college payments.

jtdavis posted:

It pays a lot more than nothing. The lottery was started to pay for college only. Sometime later, looking at the unlimited pile of money accumulating, some of it got "borrowed, took, or stole" to fund some preschool stuff. The pols couldn't understand why the pile was getting smaller.  Then they made some cuts to the college payments.

If you don't meet the state's criteria, then that is what you get, "nothing".  I just calculated the cost of one semester at UNA with fees to be over $5200 for 16 hours credit.  The Hope Scholarship if in Alabama won't pay half of that figure, provided you even qualify. 

You answered the million dollar question as to why these programs aren't worth a hoot.  It's controlled by politicians who have no vision beyond the time it takes them to get elected.

If you think handing over your money to politicians to invest for your child's future is a good idea, then I've got some beachfront property in Arizona I'd like you to invest in.

jtdavis posted:

How much is that land?  I don't have to buy the lottery tickets, the Alabama folks will do it for me, that is until they have a lottery. Looks like that's still several months in the future.

JT makes a good point.  How much $$ does TN invest to make sure AL doesn't have a lottery?  Mississippi /  Tunica advertises heavily in AL.  What about GA?  Heck the whole southeast is hoping AL remains lottery / casino free.

And they call this a lottery for education.  LOL!

 

budsfarm posted:
jtdavis posted:

How much is that land?  I don't have to buy the lottery tickets, the Alabama folks will do it for me, that is until they have a lottery. Looks like that's still several months in the future.

JT makes a good point.  How much $$ does TN invest to make sure AL doesn't have a lottery?  Mississippi /  Tunica advertises heavily in AL.  What about GA?  Heck the whole southeast is hoping AL remains lottery / casino free.

And they call this a lottery for education.  LOL!

 

Reminds me of the bootleggers who used to contribute to preachers to preach on the evils of alcohol, when the wet/dry votes came up.

direstraits posted:
budsfarm posted:
jtdavis posted:

How much is that land?  I don't have to buy the lottery tickets, the Alabama folks will do it for me, that is until they have a lottery. Looks like that's still several months in the future.

JT makes a good point.  How much $$ does TN invest to make sure AL doesn't have a lottery?  Mississippi /  Tunica advertises heavily in AL.  What about GA?  Heck the whole southeast is hoping AL remains lottery / casino free.

And they call this a lottery for education.  LOL!

 

Reminds me of the bootleggers who used to contribute to preachers to preach on the evils of alcohol, when the wet/dry votes came up.

Thar ye go!

 

jtdavis posted:

How much is that land?  I don't have to buy the lottery tickets, the Alabama folks will do it for me, that is until they have a lottery. Looks like that's still several months in the future.

People have the right to throw their own money away, I've got no problem with that.  However, pitching the lotto as a cure-all for state money problems is akin to p1ssing in my ear and telling me it's raining. 

This Alabamian has not contributed 1 red penny to your HOPE (Hop On Poverty Express) Plan.  If the lottery was a great investment, then I'm sure you're cashing in your retirement to buy those tickets and scratch off's, lol. 

If they would just be honest and tell you up front that they are just taking your money with no expectations of ever getting a return and then plan to squander it with high overhead operating cost,  no problem here.

BTW, just drop off a big bag of cash under the 1982 Ford Fiesta parked at the Florence Walmart and I'll make sure you get your deed to that property.

 

giftedamateur posted:
Bestworking posted:
jtdavis posted:

Just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of land you have?                                         At the Lauderdale county court house. I think it's Hendrix?

County or state?

Looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going.

Yep, he's going to take a "pass" on answering that one. As usual he only asks questions over and over, and never answers them.

Bestworking posted:
jtdavis posted:

Just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of land you have?                                         At the Lauderdale county court house. I think it's Hendrix?

County or state?

Looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going.

Yep, he's going to take a "pass" on answering that one. As usual he only asks questions over and over, and never answers them.

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Bestworking posted:
jtdavis posted:

Just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of land you have?                                         At the Lauderdale county court house. I think it's Hendrix?

County or state?

Looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going.

Yep, he's going to take a "pass" on answering that one. As usual he only asks questions over and over, and never answers them.

I hit the button too quick, sorry for the double post.     Best, read your question, just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of ground you have?   My answer, at the Lauderdale County Courthouse. I think it's Hendrix, Your reply, county or state? That shows how dense you really are. Your next post, "looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going.     I have no idea how to answer something that gives no clue about what you meant. 

jtdavis posted:
Bestworking posted:
jtdavis posted:

Just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of land you have?                                         At the Lauderdale county court house. I think it's Hendrix?

County or state?

Looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going.

Yep, he's going to take a "pass" on answering that one. As usual he only asks questions over and over, and never answers them.

I hit the button too quick, sorry for the double post.     Best, read your question, just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of ground you have?   My answer, at the Lauderdale County Courthouse. I think it's Hendrix, Your reply, county or state? That shows how dense you really are. Your next post, "looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going.     I have no idea how to answer something that gives no clue about what you meant. 

jtdavis posted:
Bestworking posted:
jtdavis posted:

Just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of land you have?                                         At the Lauderdale county court house. I think it's Hendrix?

County or state?

Looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going.

Yep, he's going to take a "pass" on answering that one. As usual he only asks questions over and over, and never answers them.

I hit the button too quick, sorry for the double post.     Best, read your question, just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of ground you have?   My answer, at the Lauderdale County Courthouse. I think it's Hendrix, Your reply, county or state? That shows how dense you really are. Your next post, "looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going.     I have no idea how to answer something that gives no clue about what you meant. 

Best, read your question, ( why, I know what I posted) just who do you pay taxes to on that plot of ground you have?   My answer, at the Lauderdale County Courthouse. I think it's Hendrix, Your reply, county or state? (Yes, my QUESTION-who do you pay, county or state taxes, or do you even know?) That shows how dense you really are. (No, your post that you pay Hendrix shows how freaking dense, a real DA, you are, and how you're dancing).Your next post, "looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going. ( Wasn't my post, you're confused again, as usual, call your doctor stat).     I have no idea how to answer something that gives no clue about what you meant. (A simple question, and you don't know what I meant by it? Do you know what day it is and where you are)?

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(Yes, my QUESTION-who do you pay, county or state taxes, or do you even know?) That shows how dense you really are. (No, your post that you pay Hendrix shows how freaking dense, a real DA, you are, and how you're dancing).Your next post, "looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going. ( Wasn't my post, you're confused again, as usual, call your doctor stat).     I have no idea how to answer something that gives no clue about what you meant. (A simple question, and you don't know what I meant by it? Do you know what day it is and where you are)?

I pay at the Lauderdale COUNTY Courthouse. Note the name Lauderdale county? That's a good hint. Hendrix is the elected official that manages the property tax office in the Lauderdale COUNTY Courthouse. I don't really think you are that dumb and dense, but it's the only way that, in your mind, you can make me look bad. 

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jtdavis posted:

(Yes, my QUESTION-who do you pay, county or state taxes, or do you even know?) That shows how dense you really are. (No, your post that you pay Hendrix shows how freaking dense, a real DA, you are, and how you're dancing).Your next post, "looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going. ( Wasn't my post, you're confused again, as usual, call your doctor stat).     I have no idea how to answer something that gives no clue about what you meant. (A simple question, and you don't know what I meant by it? Do you know what day it is and where you are)?

I pay at the Lauderdale COUNTY Courthouse. Note the name Lauderdale county? That's a good hint. Hendrix is the elected official that manages the property tax office in the Lauderdale COUNTY Courthouse. I don't really think you are that dumb and dense, but it's the only way that, in your mind, you can make me look bad. 

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You pay at the courthouse. Which one gets your tax money, county or state or both, or Hendrix that you keep insisting on naming? I don't have to make you look bad, you do that on your own. I just point it out.

jtdavis posted:

You pay at the courthouse. Which one gets your tax money, county or state 

I keep trying to tell you the county property tax office at the county court house is who I pay. I don't know or care where it goes. If I don't pay it, the property will be sold for back taxes.

And there you have it. You don't know or care. OK, calling BS on your story of owning property in Alabama.

And there you have it. You don't know or care. OK, calling BS on your story of owning property in Alabama.

Just for you Best. Just because you are too stupid and dense to admit just how you aren't a genius, here it is: 

Danny R Hendrix                                                                                                                        Lauderdale County Revenue Commissioner                                                                      PO Box 794                                                                                                                                   Florence, Al  35631                                                                                                                    state of Alabama tax receipt                                                                                                  state                      $20.54                                                                                                            county                     33.18                                                                                                         school  1                  56,88                                                                                                         fire protection       50.00

as I said, i don't care where it goes, I only know that the land would be taken from me if I didn't pay it. Why don't you either get smarter or quit calling others stupid liars?

jtdavis posted:

And there you have it. You don't know or care. OK, calling BS on your story of owning property in Alabama.

Just for you Best. Just because you are too stupid and dense to admit just how you aren't a genius, here it is: 

Danny R Hendrix                                                                                                                        Lauderdale County Revenue Commissioner                                                                      PO Box 794                                                                                                                                   Florence, Al  35631                                                                                                                    state of Alabama tax receipt                                                                                                  state                      $20.54                                                                                                            county                     33.18                                                                                                         school  1                  56,88                                                                                                         fire protection       50.00

as I said, i don't care where it goes, I only know that the land would be taken from me if I didn't pay it. Why don't you either get smarter or quit calling others stupid liars?

You don't know where taxes you claim you pay goes, but you call me stupid and dense? LOL! What a moron you are. Oh no, jt thinks I need to "get smarter"! I don't remember calling you a "stupid liar", but now that you mention it, if the shoe fits, wear it.  I call BS on your story.

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You don't know where taxes you claim you pay goes, but you call me stupid and dense? LOL! What a moron you are. Oh no, jt thinks I need to "get smarter"! I don't remember calling you a "stupid liar", but now that you mention it, if the shoe fits, wear it.  I call BS on your story.

Call it anything you want, you replies show how your IQ is below the room temperature. The numbers are there for a normal person to see.   

jtdavis posted:

You don't know where taxes you claim you pay goes, but you call me stupid and dense? LOL! What a moron you are. Oh no, jt thinks I need to "get smarter"! I don't remember calling you a "stupid liar", but now that you mention it, if the shoe fits, wear it.  I call BS on your story.

Call it anything you want, you replies show how your IQ is below the room temperature. The numbers are there for a normal person to see.   

What room jt? Do you think a "room" on a forum is real? What numbers do you want me to see? When did I ask about numbers? Do you know what day it is and where you are? You question my IQ? This from a man that is almost illiterate! The only time your IQ would be an asset would be when it kept you off death row.

 

giftedamateur posted:
jtdavis posted:

Jt, do you think you're a genius?

I know I'm not, judging from the replies you give to my posts, which you design to make me look bad, I come a lot closer than you.

How do I design my replies to make you look bad? If you did "come closer" than me to being a genius, you'd be able to handle my replies. 

He's become a joke.

 

jtdavis posted:

Change the subject to suit your rant.

Who are you talking to, and who changed what subject and what "rant". You need to learn the meaning of words and how to use them. No one on this forum is "ranting". You can't hold your own in a simple discussion so you say everyone is ranting or lying, or the most stupid remark from you when you've painted yourself into a corner, you call them stupid. You might as well say, "stupid old ****y head" because that is what a little kid would say when they're caught, and that is how you think. If anyone, it's you that changes the subject, or just doesn't answer questions.

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What room jt? Do you think a "room" on a forum is real? What numbers do you want me to see? When did I ask about numbers? Do you know what day it is and where you are? You question my IQ? This from a man that is almost illiterate! The only time your IQ would be an asset would be when it kept you off death row.

Crash.Override posted:

jt posted what is basically a copy of his receipt...  you two geniuses still doubt he owns property... i'd say that puts both of you pretty far down on the IQ table. i'm just sayin.  if the shoe fits.. lace that bad boy on up.

When did I mention anything about property? Maybe you should just stay out of it if you haven't read or can't understand what's been posted. I can see no one ever accused you of being a genius. He can't remember who posted what with it right in front of him, and it looks like you suffer from the same mental handicap. I'm just saying.

Bestworking posted:
jtdavis posted:

You don't know where taxes you claim you pay goes, but you call me stupid and dense? LOL! What a moron you are. Oh no, jt thinks I need to "get smarter"! I don't remember calling you a "stupid liar", but now that you mention it, if the shoe fits, wear it.  I call BS on your story.

Call it anything you want, you replies show how your IQ is below the room temperature. The numbers are there for a normal person to see.   

What room jt? Do you think a "room" on a forum is real? What numbers do you want me to see? When did I ask about numbers? Do you know what day it is and where you are? You question my IQ? This from a man that is almost illiterate! The only time your IQ would be an asset would be when it kept you off death row.

 

Hooooooooooooooooooooo....... there's a chill in the room,,,
where's the room...??
giftedamateur posted:
Crash.Override posted:

jt posted what is basically a copy of his receipt...  you two geniuses still doubt he owns property... i'd say that puts both of you pretty far down on the IQ table. i'm just sayin.  if the shoe fits.. lace that bad boy on up.

When did I mention anything about property? Maybe you should just stay out of it if you haven't read or can't understand what's been posted. I can see no one ever accused you of being a genius. He can't remember who posted what with it right in front of him, and it looks like you suffer from the same mental handicap. I'm just saying.

giftedamateur posted:
Crash.Override posted:

jt posted what is basically a copy of his receipt...  you two geniuses still doubt he owns property... i'd say that puts both of you pretty far down on the IQ table. i'm just sayin.  if the shoe fits.. lace that bad boy on up.

When did I mention anything about property? Maybe you should just stay out of it if you haven't read or can't understand what's been posted. I can see no one ever accused you of being a genius. He can't remember who posted what with it right in front of him, and it looks like you suffer from the same mental handicap. I'm just saying.

Remember Crash, if you can't say anything good (for Best) don't say anything at all.

Jt, do you remember the last time you had a cognizant thought? I thought you said you were going to the doctor because of your lousy memory. Did you forget that too? I don't read crash aka yoda aka a hundred other names because he got banned all the time. I'm not interested in his s*** s******. I saw this because she put it in her reply. So jt, how about you tell us where she mentioned property? She is absolutely right, crash is as dumb as you are, and brother that's some dumb. He outright lied when he said she made any comment about any property you claim to own. I'm still calling BS on your story.

Jt, do you remember the last time you had a cognizant thought? I thought you said you were going to the doctor because of your lousy memory. Did you forget that too? I don't read crash aka yoda aka a hundred other names because he got banned all the time. I'm not interested in his s*** s******. I saw this because she put it in her reply. So jt, how about you tell us where she mentioned property? She is absolutely right, crash is as dumb as you are, and brother that's some dumb. He outright lied when he said she made any comment about any property you claim to own. I'm still calling BS on your story.

I don't know that she used the word property, but she rode your coattails everytime she posted agreeing with you about my plot of property that neither of you would seem to believe exist.. You thought I was going to a doctor for my memory? No, that's another of you distorted thoughts. You can call BS on my story all you want and prove just how opinionated and wrong you are.

jtdavis posted:

Jt, do you remember the last time you had a cognizant thought? I thought you said you were going to the doctor because of your lousy memory. Did you forget that too? I don't read crash aka yoda aka a hundred other names because he got banned all the time. I'm not interested in his s*** s******. I saw this because she put it in her reply. So jt, how about you tell us where she mentioned property? She is absolutely right, crash is as dumb as you are, and brother that's some dumb. He outright lied when he said she made any comment about any property you claim to own. I'm still calling BS on your story.

I don't know that she used the word property, but she rode your coattails everytime she posted agreeing with you about my plot of property that neither of you would seem to believe exist.. You thought I was going to a doctor for my memory? No, that's another of you distorted thoughts. You can call BS on my story all you want and prove just how opinionated and wrong you are.

I made the comment that you were avoiding the question because you knew where she was going with the question. I know why she asked. You went from not knowing or caring about where your taxes went, to posting a print out of how they broke down. Not knowing or caring is strange for someone that complains about how Alabama spends Alabama's tax money. Yes, I agree with her all the time, that's not riding anyone's coat tail. I agree with a lot of folks. She's right and altough you yell liar at all of us all the time, you have never produced a lie that any of us posted. Yes, you did say you were going to ask a doctor about your memory. Please do that soon so you can stop claiming you didn't post things you most certainly posted. So I ask you, where did I mention property of any kind?

jtdavisOld Faithful

Catch the snipers. Have a mass execution for them and the police that murdered the black guys in Minn and Baton Rouge.

Still want to call me a liar and say you didn't post it?

Best and Hiflyer, I still can't believe I posted that statement.  I looked back to the time and date that Best referenced, it is there. It has my name on it. I will apologize to both of you. I still can't believe I did that. I'm gonna get some medical opinion on my memory. Also, I'm gonna keep some type log of my posts. As for now, I apologize for any statements I've made to the two of you

No where is property mentioned, no where does she say, oh I agree with you Best. Jt and old crash test dummy owe apologies.

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Why do you care what Alabama does?

It sounds as if Jt is fine with "taxing the poor" if it's his state doing it and his family benefitting.

Read it, question still stands.

 

Looks like he went to ground again. Guess he knew where you were going.

Jt, do you think you're a genius?

How do I design my replies to make you look bad? If you did "come closer" than me to being a genius, you'd be able to handle my replies.

Then to the crash test dummy-

When did I mention anything about property? Maybe you should just stay out of it if you haven't read or can't understand what's been posted. I can see no one ever accused you of being a genius. He can't remember who posted what with it right in front of him, and it looks like you suffer from the same mental handicap. I'm just saying.

Now who are you talking to? No one has ever proven you right because you have never been right.

I made the comment that you were avoiding the question because you knew where she was going with the question. I know why she asked. You went from not knowing or caring about where your taxes went, to posting a print out of how they broke down. Not knowing or caring is strange for someone that complains about how Alabama spends Alabama's tax money. Yes, I agree with her all the time, that's not riding anyone's coat tail. I agree with a lot of folks. She's right and altough you yell liar at all of us all the time, you have never produced a lie that any of us posted. Yes, you did say you were going to ask a doctor about your memory. Please do that soon so you can stop claiming you didn't post things you most certainly posted. So I ask you, where did I mention property of any kind?

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You went from not knowing or caring about where your taxes went, to posting a print out of how they broke down. 

I made the point of telling that I paid Alabama property tax. I didn't know or care where the money ended. It won't affect me, I do know if I don't pay it, the property would be taken from me and sold for back taxes. However, y'all made it a point to post that I did not own any land and was lying about it. That's when I looked up an old receipt and printed it for you. 

Still want to call me a liar and say you didn't post it?

Best and Hiflyer, I still can't believe I posted that statement.  I looked back to the time and date that Best referenced, it is there. It has my name on it. I will apologize to both of you. I still can't believe I did that. I'm gonna get some medical opinion on my memory. Also, I'm gonna keep some type log of my posts. As for now, I apologize for any statements I've made to the two of you

I still don't know how that came to be posted. There is a thing called hacking. 

I'm glad that you keep close tabs on my posting history. I'll let you know if I ever need you to look up something for me. Thanks.

 However, y'all made it a point to post that I did not own any land and was lying about it. That's when I looked up an old receipt and printed it for you. 

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Y'all who? You are LYING. I'M the only one that commented and the one that called BS on your story. She  said she knew why I was asking.

jtdavis posted:

Still want to call me a liar and say you didn't post it?

Best and Hiflyer, I still can't believe I posted that statement.  I looked back to the time and date that Best referenced, it is there. It has my name on it. I will apologize to both of you. I still can't believe I did that. I'm gonna get some medical opinion on my memory. Also, I'm gonna keep some type log of my posts. As for now, I apologize for any statements I've made to the two of you

I still don't know how that came to be posted. There is a thing called hacking. 

I'm glad that you keep close tabs on my posting history. I'll let you know if I ever need you to look up something for me. Thanks.

Hacking? Do you know how absolutely ridiculous that post is? And you claim others try to make you look stupid. No one could do as good a job of that than you do. I don't keep "close tabs" on what you post,  it's just not that hard to remember, especially when you have to apologize for a post. So who do you think hacked you? Me or Hiflyer, or were we in it together, or was it someone else?

Bestworking posted:

And there you have it. You don't know or care. OK, calling BS on your story of owning property in Alabama.

 best made the claim and another poster backed her to the hilt... now, crawfishing and demanding apologies... i've never seen someone who was truly intelligent have to explain the level of their intelligence. next, as soon as the TD makes you two 'moderators' , then you can decide who replies to what post.... until then, get a grip on reality.. you seem to have lost it. the two of you take great pleasure in 'denigrating' JT... how exactly does that advance your cause or in any way make you look 'intelligent'?

You started the thread off calling it murder, so why would anyone go to the trouble to frame/hack you even if it had been possible? Jt, I really do think there is something wrong with you.
 
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jtdavisOld Faithful

What about the police shootings in Baton Rouge and Minnesota?  From what I saw on the news, both of them looked like murder. Any agreement, any disagreement. 

Crash.Override posted:
Bestworking posted:

And there you have it. You don't know or care. OK, calling BS on your story of owning property in Alabama.

 best made the claim and another poster backed her to the hilt... now, crawfishing and demanding apologies... i've never seen someone who was truly intelligent have to explain the level of their intelligence. next, as soon as the TD makes you two 'moderators' , then you can decide who replies to what post.... until then, get a grip on reality.. you seem to have lost it. the two of you take great pleasure in 'denigrating' JT... how exactly does that advance your cause or in any way make you look 'intelligent'?

What claim was made and whàt backing or crawfishing is going on? It's Jt doing all the talk about IQs and claiming his is so much better than others. How about the pleasure you take in jumping in and lying about what others have said? That is exactly what Jt also dòes, when he's not posting lies about the Republican party, or attacking police officers. Yes, I have a problem with people like you and Jt that post lies, and doubly so when the lie is about me. Got that? Good.

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when you agree with another poster.. and continue the same actions... you get called out on your BS... i quoted the 'claim'... did you not see it or just don't want to see it?  you seem to have a problem, like best, and don't have any tolerance for a voice that doesn't agree with your own.  i have a problem with people who chose to 'bully' others. be it in person or online. even if you don't see it, it makes it no less true. got that?  GOOD. 

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Crash.Override posted:

when you agree with another poster.. and continue the same actions... you get called out on your BS... i quoted the 'claim'... did you not see it or just don't want to see it?  you seem to have a problem, like best, and don't have any tolerance for a voice that doesn't agree with your own.  i have a problem with people who chose to 'bully' others. be it in person or online. even if you don't see it, it makes it no less true. got that?  GOOD. 

Yes, I want to see the claim. I have no problem with disagreement, I have a problem with your lies about what I posted. You call me a bully when you, you, a thick headed fool, have been all over the forum calling others all sorts of names and lying about us? Jt is a grown man that comes onto a public site to post what is mostly lies and garbage. I see you are the same, wanting to bully and harass anyone that dares to tell the truth about you. But then again, that is the DEMOSLOPS (I like that word, it applies) way. I want to see too, where anyone has ever bullied Jt. Responding to his garbage is not bullying.

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jtdavis posted:

Jt is a grown man that comes onto a public site to post what is mostly lies and garbage. 

I do not post mostly lies and garbage. However in your distorted view you can't recognize the truth.  BTY, remind me, post some of those lies.

I'll post two of your lies for you. Just two for starters. This thread is full of your lies.  And again, I call BS on your story of owning property. You never mentioned it before, now all of a sudden you come up with property in Alabama. Oh, and please, if you are going to constantly talk about your IQ and claim it is so much higher than others, learn the proper use of words. Not only did she not use the word property, she never commented in any way on whether or not she thinks you own it, and no where said she agreed when I called BS on your claim. Now, how about YOU list a couple of lies you claim I have posted.

 

 1.I don't know that she used the word property, but she rode your coattails everytime she posted agreeing with you about my plot of property that neither of you would seem to believe exist.. 2. You thought I was going to a doctor for my memory? No, that's another of you distorted thoughts. You can call BS on my story all you want and prove just how opinionated and wrong you are.

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 1.I don't know that she used the word property, but she rode your coattails everytime she posted agreeing with you about my plot of property that neither of you would seem to believe exist.. 2. You thought I was going to a doctor for my memory? No, that's another of you distorted thoughts. You can call BS on my story all you want and prove just how opinionated and wrong you are.

Your words genius.

jtdavis posted:

 1.I don't know that she used the word property, but she rode your coattails everytime she posted agreeing with you about my plot of property that neither of you would seem to believe exist.. 2. You thought I was going to a doctor for my memory? No, that's another of you distorted thoughts. You can call BS on my story all you want and prove just how opinionated and wrong you are.

Your words genius.

My words? LOL! Oh no, old jt has had himself another bout of amnesia!! Did I "hack" it jt?

giftedamateur posted:
Crash.Override posted:

when you agree with another poster.. and continue the same actions... you get called out on your BS... i quoted the 'claim'... did you not see it or just don't want to see it?  you seem to have a problem, like best, and don't have any tolerance for a voice that doesn't agree with your own.  i have a problem with people who chose to 'bully' others. be it in person or online. even if you don't see it, it makes it no less true. got that?  GOOD. 

Yes, I want to see the claim. I have no problem with disagreement, I have a problem with your lies about what I posted. You call me a bully when you, you, a thick headed fool, have been all over the forum calling others all sorts of names and lying about us? Jt is a grown man that comes onto a public site to post what is mostly lies and garbage. I see you are the same, wanting to bully and harass anyone that dares to tell the truth about you. But then again, that is the DEMOSLOPS (I like that word, it applies) way. I want to see too, where anyone has ever bullied Jt. Responding to his garbage is not bullying.

how many times have you addressed ANYONE, on these forums, with a differing opinion, with ANYTHING but a derogatory name/term?  here's a hint. 'demoslops' turned up ten results dating back to march... i'm glad you like the term...

i'm guessing jt is a skilled laborer from one of our local unions... while grammar/spelling or posting on an internet forum may not play to his strong suits, i'm gonna say you probably wouldn't fare too well in his world either!  jt obviously paid into the federal and alabama state's system as well as owning property here, in bama. what more does he need to do to care about his once if be it temporary home?  what right do you have to question 'why he cares what happens in alabama?'

here's a 'golden rule' for all you good conservatives... "treat others as you wish to be treated".  now, again i ask... "by denigrating jt at every chance, what do you think you're gaining? "

i'm guessing jt is a skilled laborer from one of our local unions...

You would be guessing right. Give me a welding rod or a wrench and I will challenge a lot of people. I'll get beat some, but I'll win more than I will lose. I also know that when you have a problem to solve, you want the most differing opinions that you can get and don't wave any of them off until you thought about them. There is some on this forum that can't accept any opinions different from their own. They are probably the most insecure. The ability to hide behind a fake identity and lambast others gives them a sense of power.  I was naive enough to not hide my name, I am JT in real life. You know, the KKK hid behind sheets to hide their identity, are these fake names the same as the sheets. Oh well, I'm off my stump and I'm gonna keep posting my opinions. If any of you don't like them, blow me out, I'm through answering personal attacks. No more of it.

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