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Tom Smith has received an anonymous phone call from an individual who is alleging that the machine gun found in the creek on Rasch Road can be linked to the death of Buford Pusser's wife.

The caller stated that the gun was stolen out of Jackson, Tennessee and was used in the assassination attempt of Pusser that resulted in the death of his wife.

The caller specified that the gun was used without the tripod on the day of the murder.

The caller also offered to reveal his true identity after the forensics on the gun were completed.

The caller advised that he had last heard that the gun was tossed in a creek in Lauderdale County Alabama.

It's a great story and I hope we hear some more from this.
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Originally posted by green gras:
I think the Buford Pusser story is so interesting.


Maybe interesting now, but when I used to see him every week-end at Moore's Place, I was a 18 year old kid (underage for drinking in Tn at that time) and he was BIG AND SCARY !!! He was a good guy though, didn't hassel anybody that wasn't being obnoxious.
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Pusser told authorities that a lone Cadillac ambushed him. According to Pusser the Cadillac was occupied by three subjects. The used an M1 Carbine in the alleged ambush firing a total of 14 shots. Pauline was struck in the head by two of the shots. There were a alleged ambush sites, the first being .8 of a mile from the Church where the ambuss started. Thesecond was 2.1 miles further down the road.

Pusser's statement about how the ambush occurred id filled with inconsistancies.

It is my personal belief that there was no ambush, that Pusser himself was responsible for his wife's death. The were having marital probelems and were alleged to be separated at the time. She was planning to leave him and report to authorities that he had be accepting payoffs from the very people he was supposed to be fighting.

For more information, photos, report and files type crimemyths in your Internet search box.
I have always been fascinated by the whole life and times of Buford Pusser. I remember going to see the movie Walking Tall on the big screen when I was just a little girl. It was and still is a big mystery in this area. I also recall hearing that when he was killed, he was returning to Mississippi from the Fair in Muscle Shoals and was driving a brand new Cadillac from Bobby Mitchell Chevrolet. (dont know if any of that is true but boy that takes me back to long ago)
Beware of the so called facts on crimemyths. At the time TBI ballistics expert Robert Goodwin stated that the bullets came from the military 30 caliber. That is not the M1 carbine.

The 30 cal military was a M1 Garand that used a Springfield 30.06 with soft nosed rounds. Goodwin along with the FBI lab state all the rounds came from the same weapon.

Elam jumps on any forum to promote his highly biased views. It is his view that Pusser killed his wife.

I too have hundreds of photos, big deal. There are other forums that debate his findings, this is not the place.

Back on topic the machine gun that was found some models used a 30.06 Springfield load.
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Originally posted bt Charlie:
Beware of the so called facts on crimemyths. At the time TBI ballistics expert Robert Goodwin stated that the bullets came from the military 30 caliber. That is not the M1 carbine.

The 30 cal military was a M1 Garand that used a Springfield 30.06 with soft nosed rounds. Goodwin along with the FBI lab state all the rounds came from the same weapon.

Elam jumps on any forum to promote his highly biased views. It is his view that Pusser killed his wife.

I too have hundreds of photos, big deal. There are other forums that debate his findings, this is not the place.

Back on topic the machine gun that was found some models used a 30.06 Springfield load.


Charlie, the M1 Carbine is indeed a .30 caliber weapon. It is an "intermediate" cartridge. Also, if the ballistics expert stated that the bullets were military .30 caliber, then they would not have been "soft" nosed. All U.S Military ammunition is FMJ (full metal jacket).
The Geneva Convention prohibits "soft nosed" ie; "expanding" ammo for military use.

As for this Browning 1919 as recovered from the creek being used in the Pusser ambush, from a moving car? I seriously doubt it.
Why lug around a belt fed, 31 pound, 4'5" long weapon when there were many much more controllable weapons that would do the job.
After the first burst, from a car window, they would have been firing all over the place!
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Originally posted by Charlie:
Beware of the so called facts on crimemyths. At the time TBI ballistics expert Robert Goodwin stated that the bullets came from the military 30 caliber. That is not the M1 carbine.

The 30 cal military was a M1 Garand that used a Springfield 30.06 with soft nosed rounds. Goodwin along with the FBI lab state all the rounds came from the same weapon.

Elam jumps on any forum to promote his highly biased views. It is his view that Pusser killed his wife.

I too have hundreds of photos, big deal. There are other forums that debate his findings, this is not the place.

Back on topic the machine gun that was found some models used a 30.06 Springfield load.


Beware of what charlie says. He is a psudo intellectual. He talks a good game but can not bear to factually examine situations that might place Buford Pusser in a bad light. As an example, he and some others once reconstructed the Louise Hath**** shooting and decided that it happened just as Buford claimed, only to learn later that her autopsy report indicated that she had two entry wounds to her BACK. Watch him tap dance as he attempts to explain away his errors on that reconstrution. The autopsy report is available on crimemyths for anyone who wants to see it.

While charlie does indeed have a lot of information on Pusser he fails to put much of that information out for public to evaluate themselves. Charlie seems more interested in confirming the stories that the public has been told about Pusser rather than questioning the many inconsistancies in Pusser's claims about how things happened...,and to think he accuses me of having biased views.

Another good example of charlie's alleged expertise regarding Pusser, he generally fails to address all of the statements made by club owners, moonshiners and bootleggers that Pusser accepted payoffs. He apparently is satisfied with the old movie version of Pusser as a hero rather acknowledging what is said by many others who lived the same story as Buford. On crimemyths we give you the information and let you decide what to believe. Charlie has a half baked, unfinished web site that seems to have only one purpose...that of showing Buford Pusser as a hero. Ask charlie where you can see all the photos and documentaion he has?

You have to ask yourself why charlie questions my presents on a forum while he is posting here as well. Notice he closes his statement by saying there are other forums that debate my findings. One is operated by a close friend of charlie's and they refer to it as a "newsletter" so that don't have to allow people with differing opinions to post. Only charlie's charlie's friends holding opinion similar to his own are allowed to post so how does he call that"debate"? Charlie is referred to as a "associate editor" on that so called newsletter. On the home page of that forum it states that the site is for the purpose of "Defending and Promoting" the Pusser story. They have an obvious agenda.

Now, Charlie says this is not the place to debate this. Well, if a forum is not the place to debate things..., where is the right place? Should we allow charlie to dictate and censor things on this forum as he does on his own? Get a life charlie.
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Originally posted by Charlie:
Beware of the so called facts on crimemyths. At the time TBI ballistics expert Robert Goodwin stated that the bullets came from the military 30 caliber. That is not the M1 carbine.

The 30 cal military was a M1 Garand that used a Springfield 30.06 with soft nosed rounds. Goodwin along with the FBI lab state all the rounds came from the same weapon.

Elam jumps on any forum to promote his highly biased views. It is his view that Pusser killed his wife.

I too have hundreds of photos, big deal. There are other forums that debate his findings, this is not the place.

Back on topic the machine gun that was found some models used a 30.06 Springfield load.


The only reason that charlie even knows about this forum is because he read about it on "crimemyths"..., isn't that rich!
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Originally posted by whatever:
I have always been fascinated by the whole life and times of Buford Pusser. I remember going to see the movie Walking Tall on the big screen when I was just a little girl. It was and still is a big mystery in this area. I also recall hearing that when he was killed, he was returning to Mississippi from the Fair in Muscle Shoals and was driving a brand new Cadillac from Bobby Mitchell Chevrolet. (dont know if any of that is true but boy that takes me back to long ago)


whatever, it was from Gene Crump. Crump and Pusser were involved in a lot of business together. Pusser did commercials for Crump, as well as other things reportedly. After all this time, with both dead, who knows?
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Originally posted by whatever:
I have always been fascinated by the whole life and times of Buford Pusser. I remember going to see the movie Walking Tall on the big screen when I was just a little girl. It was and still is a big mystery in this area. I also recall hearing that when he was killed, he was returning to Mississippi from the Fair in Muscle Shoals and was driving a brand new Cadillac from Bobby Mitchell Chevrolet. (dont know if any of that is true but boy that takes me back to long ago)


sort of: He was returning to Adamsville, Tn from the fair but I don't believe it was Muscle Shoals but I'm not sure of that. He was driving a new Corvette as I recall. The place where it happened is marked on hwy 64 West of Savannah.
Buford was returning home from a county fair in Selmer. He was about 4 miles from his home in Adamsville when he had his fatal accident. He was traveling on highway 64 at a very high speed when he lost control of the Corvette he was driving. His BAC was .18 . Too much alcohol and driving too fast,thats what killed Buford.

The Corvette is now on display at the Buford Pusser Home and Museum in Adamsville.
you just don't know when to give it a rest do you Mike?

This guy has been a pain in the Pusser families hind end for years with false accusations against Buford as well as slandering Dwana as a drunk and all kinds of hateful insidiousness... take anything he says with a grain of salt people.

He's some kind of a wacko nut who is obsessed with Buford and has been slandering the sheriff and his family for years
lol...why don't you and all of the ney sayers give it a rest. You might even try telling the truth next time you post. I didn't slander Dwana as a drunk, those are your words, not mine. I was asked a question and I answered it honestly. I stated that when I met her that she had been drinking, she slurred her speech and almost fell, something was confirmed by several others taht were also present at the time. I did not say she was drunk.

It seems as though you are the one making accusations here. At leaast I try to back up what I say with documentation, photos, or witness statements when I spaek of Buford, so whats your particular problem?
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Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
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Originally posted by whatever:
I have always been fascinated by the whole life and times of Buford Pusser. I remember going to see the movie Walking Tall on the big screen when I was just a little girl. It was and still is a big mystery in this area. I also recall hearing that when he was killed, he was returning to Mississippi from the Fair in Muscle Shoals and was driving a brand new Cadillac from Bobby Mitchell Chevrolet. (dont know if any of that is true but boy that takes me back to long ago)


whatever, it was from Gene Crump. Crump and Pusser were involved in a lot of business together. Pusser did commercials for Crump, as well as other things reportedly. After all this time, with both dead, who knows?


I was there the day Pusser got the 'vette. Had my picture taken with him that day. It was hard for a 12 year old not to stare at the lower part of his face.
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Originally posted by mikeelam:
lol...why don't you and all of the ney sayers give it a rest. You might even try telling the truth next time you post. I didn't slander Dwana as a drunk, those are your words, not mine. I was asked a question and I answered it honestly. I stated that when I met her that she had been drinking, she slurred her speech and almost fell, something was confirmed by several others taht were also present at the time. I did not say she was drunk.

It seems as though you are the one making accusations here. At leaast I try to back up what I say with documentation, photos, or witness statements when I spaek of Buford, so whats your particular problem?


Look Mike ya pole smoker.. you have plagued this mans memory and family for long enough, far too long actually. you joined this forum just to rail on the man.. even the criminals he busted have more class than to rail on a dead man's memory and family.. you are scum Mike and you won't find any sympathetic ears for your BS around this community. go to hell you lecherous piece of rotten yankee trash
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
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Originally posted by mikeelam:
lol...why don't you and all of the ney sayers give it a rest. You might even try telling the truth next time you post. I didn't slander Dwana as a drunk, those are your words, not mine. I was asked a question and I answered it honestly. I stated that when I met her that she had been drinking, she slurred her speech and almost fell, something was confirmed by several others taht were also present at the time. I did not say she was drunk.

It seems as though you are the one making accusations here. At leaast I try to back up what I say with documentation, photos, or witness statements when I spaek of Buford, so whats your particular problem?


Look Mike ya pole smoker.. you have plagued this mans memory and family for long enough, far too long actually. you joined this forum just to rail on the man.. even the criminals he busted have more class than to rail on a dead man's memory and family.. you are scum Mike and you won't find any sympathetic ears for your BS around this community. go to hell you lecherous piece of rotten yankee trash


Look CHT, If you want to believe the story of Buford Pusser is true, you go right ahead. Maybe you can counter with some facts rarther than just your mouth. Why are there no reports , police, medical, newspaper or otherwise to prove that Buford was ever beaten and cut up at the Plantation Club? If Buford received 192 stitches to his head and face as W.R Morris wrote in "The Twelfth of August" (page 50, last paragraph) why did photos taken shortly after that show NO SCARING to his head or face. Why are there no witnesses that ever recall seeing him with a head and face full of stitches after that alleged attack?

Why don't you tell everyone here how Buford was alleged to have robbed and beaten W.O. Hath**** at the Plantation Club TWO YEARS LATER with the help of two friends Jerry Wright and Marvin King Jr.? Why don't you tell everyone how Hath**** claimed it was actually Marvin King Jr who beat him with a blunt instrument and how Pusser took credit for it in the movie, which started the "big stick" myth.

While your at it, why don't you explain away all of the statements by people like Skeet Adkins, Betty Sparks, Paul David English, Olin "Sonny" Davis, who claim that Pusser was corrupt and accepted payoffs? They lived "the real story" just as Buford did but their recollections of those time are vastly different than Buford's were.

Explain to people who have not researched this subjest as I have, How that ambush Cadillac was able to negotiate a winding New Hope Road in the predawn hours of August 12th without the use of headlights and was able to catch Buford's Plymouth Fury after only seven tenths of a mile? You might also explain how the cars were side by side and with the cars just three to five feet apart a professional hit man managed to hit Buford only once. Whyy don't you tell everyone about Buford and Pauline's marital probelems and how she had threatened to laeve Buford and report his corruption. Tell everyone how they were supposed to be separated at the time of the ambush.

Why don't you explain to everyone here how Buford was able to live beyond his means of a simple country sheriff as he did? Ever consider that just maybe other were correct about him accepting payoffs? Maybe thats how he could afford new cars and all of those guns he purchased.

Very little in the Movie "Walking Tall" was shown factually.

Yes, you are totally ate up by Buford's wild tales and can't face the truth about him.

Dwana? What have I really said about her? Yes, I did question her claims that Buford fought not only the state line mob, but the mobs from Chicago and Detroit as well. If your such a Dwana fan why don't you offer us some proof that the Chicago and Detroit mobs were working in McNairy County as well. No one but Dwana seems to know anything about that or the "contracts" she alleges were placed on "the kids" back in the 60's. If she wants to make those claims shouldn't she expect someone to ask her to back them up?

Rather than criticize me, why don't you share what you know about Buford? There is a lot more that I can share but what would be the point of wasting information on you? After all, you just want to believe in your hero.
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
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Originally posted by mikeelam:
lol...why don't you and all of the ney sayers give it a rest. You might even try telling the truth next time you post. I didn't slander Dwana as a drunk, those are your words, not mine. I was asked a question and I answered it honestly. I stated that when I met her that she had been drinking, she slurred her speech and almost fell, something was confirmed by several others taht were also present at the time. I did not say she was drunk.

It seems as though you are the one making accusations here. At leaast I try to back up what I say with documentation, photos, or witness statements when I spaek of Buford, so whats your particular problem?


Look Mike ya pole smoker.. you have plagued this mans memory and family for long enough, far too long actually. you joined this forum just to rail on the man.. even the criminals he busted have more class than to rail on a dead man's memory and family.. you are scum Mike and you won't find any sympathetic ears for your BS around this community. go to hell you lecherous piece of rotten yankee trash


I'm from Arkansas, another southern state. You can't even get that right and to think you want people to believe what you have to say about anything. Pole Smoker?..., scum? You can't win an argument based on merit so you reduce yourself to childish name calling. Just how pathetic is that?
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Originally posted by crash davis:
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Originally posted by Trutooit-II:
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Originally posted by whatever:
I have always been fascinated by the whole life and times of Buford Pusser. I remember going to see the movie Walking Tall on the big screen when I was just a little girl. It was and still is a big mystery in this area. I also recall hearing that when he was killed, he was returning to Mississippi from the Fair in Muscle Shoals and was driving a brand new Cadillac from Bobby Mitchell Chevrolet. (dont know if any of that is true but boy that takes me back to long ago)


whatever, it was from Gene Crump. Crump and Pusser were involved in a lot of business together. Pusser did commercials for Crump, as well as other things reportedly. After all this time, with both dead, who knows?


I was there the day Pusser got the 'vette. Had my picture taken with him that day. It was hard for a 12 year old not to stare at the lower part of his face.


Crash Davis is correct. The car buford was driving when he was killed was a Corvette. Buford was driving home from a fair at Selmer. All of this is well documented.

Buford's Corvette skidded several hundred feet before he struck an embankment on the opposite side of the highway from his direction of travel. Even after stiking the embankment his car was thrown another 40 feet and Buford was ejected from the vehicle. Authorites secured the car and examined it for signs of sabotage but found none.

Obviously, Buford was traveling at a very high rate of speed as the accident occurred. Again, his blood alcohol content was .18, about twice the legal limit.

No evidence was found to show that there was an attempt on Buford's life that night as his movies led people to believe. The sad part is that very day it had been announced that Buford would play himself in the second installment of the "Walking Tall" movies.
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Originally posted by mikeelam:
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
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Originally posted by mikeelam:
lol...why don't you and all of the ney sayers give it a rest. You might even try telling the truth next time you post. I didn't slander Dwana as a drunk, those are your words, not mine. I was asked a question and I answered it honestly. I stated that when I met her that she had been drinking, she slurred her speech and almost fell, something was confirmed by several others taht were also present at the time. I did not say she was drunk.

It seems as though you are the one making accusations here. At leaast I try to back up what I say with documentation, photos, or witness statements when I spaek of Buford, so whats your particular problem?


Look Mike ya pole smoker.. you have plagued this mans memory and family for long enough, far too long actually. you joined this forum just to rail on the man.. even the criminals he busted have more class than to rail on a dead man's memory and family.. you are scum Mike and you won't find any sympathetic ears for your BS around this community. go to hell you lecherous piece of rotten yankee trash


I'm from Arkansas, another southern state. You can't even get that right and to think you want people to believe what you have to say about anything. Pole Smoker?..., scum? You can't win an argument based on merit so you reduce yourself to childish name calling. Just how pathetic is that?
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nowhere near as pathetic as your anal yahoo forum where you ban anybody who brings anything to the table to show you for what you are scumbag.
Do you not have a life beyond torturing this mans memory and family Eham?
Get a life fat boy
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
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Originally posted by mikeelam:
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Originally posted by The Cold Hard Truth:
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Originally posted by mikeelam:
lol...why don't you and all of the ney sayers give it a rest. You might even try telling the truth next time you post. I didn't slander Dwana as a drunk, those are your words, not mine. I was asked a question and I answered it honestly. I stated that when I met her that she had been drinking, she slurred her speech and almost fell, something was confirmed by several others taht were also present at the time. I did not say she was drunk.

It seems as though you are the one making accusations here. At leaast I try to back up what I say with documentation, photos, or witness statements when I spaek of Buford, so whats your particular problem?


Look Mike ya pole smoker.. you have plagued this mans memory and family for long enough, far too long actually. you joined this forum just to rail on the man.. even the criminals he busted have more class than to rail on a dead man's memory and family.. you are scum Mike and you won't find any sympathetic ears for your BS around this community. go to hell you lecherous piece of rotten yankee trash


I'm from Arkansas, another southern state. You can't even get that right and to think you want people to believe what you have to say about anything. Pole Smoker?..., scum? You can't win an argument based on merit so you reduce yourself to childish name calling. Just how pathetic is that?
..

nowhere near as pathetic as your anal yahoo forum where you ban anybody who brings anything to the table to show you for what you are scumbag.
Do you not have a life beyond torturing this mans memory and family Eham?
Get a life fat boy


Once again you fail to tell the truth. Look on the forum. We are in a hot debate about several things concerning Pusser's statement regarding how the ambush occurred. People who often disagree with me are still there and will remain there. The truth is, I have banned a total of four (4) people from my forum, all for doing just what you are doing now, making personal attacks and name calling. That kind of attitude contributes to nothing positive.

You just don't get it and I don't believe you want to understand it.

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