Nancy Pelosi: Syria's Assad Wants Peace With Israel:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that Syrian President Bashar Assad assured her of his willingness to engage in peace talks with Israel.
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quote:Originally posted by interventor:
And, soon the Easter bunny will visit you!
Ah,your too funny! Can't you comment on the article and say why you don't agree or is the name Pelosi and the fact she is a democrat say it all? I think so and I think I answered it for you.
quote:Originally posted by pba:
Nancy Pelosi: Syria's Assad Wants Peace With Israel:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that Syrian President Bashar Assad assured her of his willingness to engage in peace talks with Israel.
http://snipurl.com/1f5jg
I think the Bush Administrations misgivings about Rice Meeting with Assad are based on the strategy of preventing any direct contact between Israel and Syria at a negotiating table. If they can sit down and work on their mutual problems, they may just be able to defuse some of the conflicts.
I think that the Israeli conflict does exemplify one of the major differences between Conservatives and Liberals. Both are solidly behind the right of Israel to exist, but the liberals, like Carter, want it to exist in a non confrontational environment. Conservatives seem unwilling to do anything to lower the tensions, and seem to want Israel to remain in a constant state of tension.
I see this, I may be seeing it wrongly, but it is how I see it, and I wonder what benefit is derived by keeping tensions high.
The simple conclusion is Liberals are not trying to sell weapons and weapons systems, and Conservatives are trying to.
Most international issues are not that simple.
Another more complex reason is that tension creates instability. A little push, one way or the other can heat up or cool down the conflict.
That has some interesting consequences.
If you can "wag the dog" you control the dog with little effort. Keep Israel Quiet, but at risk, status quo. Start a hot war with Israel, New excuses for taking names and kicking *ss. That same concept seems to be possible in the "Search" for Bin Laden. Alive, he is a ready threat dead, you have to go to the trouble of making up a new threat.
Who knows for sure. All I am Certain of is Condi did not do very well getting through to the Syrians recently.
Syria has subverted Lebanon for years while building up Hezbollah. Most weaponry to these powers come thru Russia, France, Iran, not the US.
If Syria truly wanted peace, it wouls withdraw secret police from Lebanon, cut off Hezbollah, and shut down terror camps in the Bekka.
The only reason Syria may want peace, is fear of the Persians.
If Syria truly wanted peace, it wouls withdraw secret police from Lebanon, cut off Hezbollah, and shut down terror camps in the Bekka.
The only reason Syria may want peace, is fear of the Persians.
You know Syria wouldn't lie to us infidels. They are as honest as Iran and the former Iraq regime. People in the real world know if they mess with Irael, they will get their butts kicked.
I don't agree with the ida that the Zionists are controlling our foreign policy.
The goals behind world conquest don't have to be exactly the same to find similarities in policy. They are closely aligned though. Both want world conquest and both are powered and fueld by racism and the interests of a ruling class of wealthy elite's and businesses.
Hitler's conquests were based on racism and so are Bush's and the Right Wing. So is Zionism. Bush's Wars are to serve the interests of the ruling elite's and cares little for average people. The Wars are on based on the propaganda that Arabs are not like us and we have the right to annihilate them and take their resources.
We see the racism constantly in Right Wing hate sites and propaganda. Even Fox has heavy racist overtones regarding Muslim and Arab people.
Bush's "Master Race" is based on the belief that they are the ruling class and are better then the average people. They believe we have no rights and have been systematically eroding them down.
The goals behind world conquest don't have to be exactly the same to find similarities in policy. They are closely aligned though. Both want world conquest and both are powered and fueld by racism and the interests of a ruling class of wealthy elite's and businesses.
Hitler's conquests were based on racism and so are Bush's and the Right Wing. So is Zionism. Bush's Wars are to serve the interests of the ruling elite's and cares little for average people. The Wars are on based on the propaganda that Arabs are not like us and we have the right to annihilate them and take their resources.
We see the racism constantly in Right Wing hate sites and propaganda. Even Fox has heavy racist overtones regarding Muslim and Arab people.
Bush's "Master Race" is based on the belief that they are the ruling class and are better then the average people. They believe we have no rights and have been systematically eroding them down.
Old Man4. I had to read that post twice. You should watch your language. Infidel means three different things, first and foremost it means non Christian. Second it means one who does not believe in a specified religion. Probably the sense you meant but unless you are of a religion different from your intended audience you are using it either incorrectly or sarcastically. (I suspect sarcasm) it can also apply to one who professes no religious loyalty. In that sense, any church goer can use it on me, or any person who professes faith in a Religious belief but not in Churches. (Lots of them around) and finally someone who does not believe in something specified or understood.quote:Originally posted by Old Man4:
You know Syria wouldn't lie to us infidels. They are as honest as Iran and the former Iraq regime. People in the real world know if they mess with Irael, they will get their butts kicked.
So, that said, for clarity, since Iraq did not lie to us about the WMD, and Iran is denying the assertions of the Bush administration that they are developing nuclear weapons, and since Bush and company DID lie about the WMD, I am an infidel. I don't believe that Arabs are Liars, as specified, and apparently understood.
Assad, the believer who told Pelosi that Syria is interested in a peaceful settlement with Israel should be believed, at least to the extent that his actions do not lay the lie to his words.
So, what is it that motivated you to remind those of us who actually live in the real world that messing with Israel will result in a Whoopin'?
You are right for not agreeing, but you will have to wait to be right till organization is complete later this year. Three Jewish lobby groups NOT affiliated with AIPAC have joined, and are being financed by George Soros and a few others. Their avowed aim is to push for US policy leading to a genuine and lasting peace in the Middle East, with defined boundaries for Palestine and Israel, and a less hard line of support for Israel. The Lobby group has not been given a name yet, and it is a coalition of Left Leaning, or outright leftist Jewish Lobby groups. They do not intend to lobby for an end of support to Israel, but for tying that support to progress toward peace. Sort of a Timetable for ending the fighting.quote:Originally posted by pba:
I don't agree with the ida that the Zionists are controlling our foreign policy.
The goals behind world conquest don't have to be exactly the same to find similarities in policy. They are closely aligned though. Both want world conquest and both are powered and fueld by racism and the interests of a ruling class of wealthy elite's and businesses.
Hitler's conquests were based on racism and so are Bush's and the Right Wing. So is Zionism. Bush's Wars are to serve the interests of the ruling elite's and cares little for average people. The Wars are on based on the propaganda that Arabs are not like us and we have the right to annihilate them and take their resources.
We see the racism constantly in Right Wing hate sites and propaganda. Even Fox has heavy racist overtones regarding Muslim and Arab people.
Bush's "Master Race" is based on the belief that they are the ruling class and are better then the average people. They believe we have no rights and have been systematically eroding them down.
These Liberals. They can't seem to get enough of these timetables and benchmarks.
pba,
Curl up with your copies of the "Protocols of Zion" and "My Struggle." The Syrians are still assassinating Lebanese leaders and encouraging christians to leave that country thru intimidation.
Ed,
Careful, you're beginning to sound like a conservative in some of your arguments or at least a disillusioned liberal.
Curl up with your copies of the "Protocols of Zion" and "My Struggle." The Syrians are still assassinating Lebanese leaders and encouraging christians to leave that country thru intimidation.
Ed,
Careful, you're beginning to sound like a conservative in some of your arguments or at least a disillusioned liberal.
quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:quote:Originally posted by pba:
Nancy Pelosi: Syria's Assad Wants Peace With Israel:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that Syrian President Bashar Assad assured her of his willingness to engage in peace talks with Israel.
http://snipurl.com/1f5jg
I think the Bush Administrations misgivings about Rice Meeting with Assad are based on the strategy of preventing any direct contact between Israel and Syria at a negotiating table. If they can sit down and work on their mutual problems, they may just be able to defuse some of the conflicts.
I think that the Israeli conflict does exemplify one of the major differences between Conservatives and Liberals. Both are solidly behind the right of Israel to exist, but the liberals, like Carter, want it to exist in a non confrontational environment. Conservatives seem unwilling to do anything to lower the tensions, and seem to want Israel to remain in a constant state of tension.
I see this, I may be seeing it wrongly, but it is how I see it, and I wonder what benefit is derived by keeping tensions high.
The simple conclusion is Liberals are not trying to sell weapons and weapons systems, and Conservatives are trying to.
Most international issues are not that simple.
Another more complex reason is that tension creates instability. A little push, one way or the other can heat up or cool down the conflict.
That has some interesting consequences.
If you can "wag the dog" you control the dog with little effort. Keep Israel Quiet, but at risk, status quo. Start a hot war with Israel, New excuses for taking names and kicking *ss. That same concept seems to be possible in the "Search" for Bin Laden. Alive, he is a ready threat dead, you have to go to the trouble of making up a new threat.
Who knows for sure. All I am Certain of is Condi did not do very well getting through to the Syrians recently.
"Condi" did not do well with the Syrians, or any whee she went in the Mideast because she is pushing the Bush agenda, which is Corporate Globalization, privatization and surrender to US goals of dominating the region. When Bashir Assad came to power after his father died he opened up some reforms in Syria and made peace overtures to the West, the US and Israel. He was educated in Britain.
He and his father are Ba'athests and secular. They were enemies of Saddam and bin Laden and have been at "war" with the Muslim Brotherhood, another extremist group.
After 9/11 he cooperated with Bush and gave us valuable information on al Qaeda and extremist groups. Bush even sent "suspects" to Syria to be tortured.
He has continually made peace overtures to Israel and a while ago it was announced they were close to signing a peace agreement. Israel would return the Golan Heights to Syria and it would be made into a park, open to everyone, including Israelis.
Bush is not interested in seeing Israel and Syria come to a separate peace agreement if it does not include Bush's goal of controlling the region.
Both the democrats and republicans give blank checks to Israel. At one time we had a fairer policy of balance. Bush's policy was to let Israel do whatever it wanted hoping it would be able to crush the Palestinians and help the US control the region.