Navy to Posthumously Charge American Hero Chris Kyle with Stolen Valor

Between Hillary and Peter Jennings and yes Chris Kyle certain claims are revealed as either false or cannot be confirmed.  Ironic that Snopes.com agrees with Woz75 given Woz's distain about snopes.com even though snopes, in this case, backs up Woz's allegations.

While certainly there should be a penalty when false claims are made in order to either earn awards or medals that were not earned Obama cannot claim the high road with vets when he has performed so miserably with respect to Bowe Bergdahl whom has yet to see trial when he should given his reported offenses.

I like how mentally challenged republicans answer to Chris Kyle's stolen valor with a Hillary comment. Yes, change the subject when met with information you refuse to acknowledge. All politicians lie, but George W. Bush's lies led us into the never-ending war on terror that will still be claiming innocent lives a century from now. All for the mighty dollar. Oh, and baby Jesus of course. Can't forget to throw that in there for the super tards. 

woz75 posted:

I like how mentally challenged republicans answer to Chris Kyle's stolen valor with a Hillary comment. Yes, change the subject when met with information you refuse to acknowledge. All politicians lie, but George W. Bush's lies led us into the never-ending war on terror that will still be claiming innocent lives a century from now. All for the mighty dollar. Oh, and baby Jesus of course. Can't forget to throw that in there for the super tards. 

The subject was "stolen valor" and the hilliary comment was stolen valor.  Try to keep up Woz, I know you're at at disadvantage, but this is easy stuff.

Sorry Hooberblob,

This is my post and it has absolutely nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. I know it's tough for you not to talk about her, but you just can't go around inserting her into everything. 

You can try again at dinner time when talking to your 53 cats 

woz75 posted:

I like how mentally challenged republicans answer to Chris Kyle's stolen valor with a Hillary comment. Yes, change the subject when met with information you refuse to acknowledge. All politicians lie, but George W. Bush's lies led us into the never-ending war on terror that will still be claiming innocent lives a century from now. All for the mighty dollar. Oh, and baby Jesus of course. Can't forget to throw that in there for the super tards. 

George Bush along with a great majority of Senators and Representatives came to the exact same conclusions and voted for going to war.  George Bush didn't take on going to war on his own or by Executive Order but went to Congress who, based upon the same intelligence, made the same decision.  HILLARY CLINTON, current Presidential candidate included!  

Blaming George Bush doesn't fly anymore because we are almost 8 years removed from Bush's administration.  WE can't justify blaming Bush any longer or penalizing, say, Donald Trump for Bush's decision.   IF there is a desire to punish anyone for the war in Iraq then there is a current candidate (Hillary Clinton) who actually voted to go to war in Iraq so if this is an issue I'm sure you won't be supporting Hillary Clinton.

If lies are an issue then I can't imagine anyone, that is a Democrat, supporting or approving of our current administration under Obama because it's one thing to make decisions or statements based upon intelligence that you receive and another to make decisions and statements based on what you KNOW to be false or lies, and this Administration has outright LIED KNOWINGLY and made decisions that affect all Americans based upon those lies.

Examples:

Benghazi - It was known that the attacks on our Consulate was not due to a YouTube video but Secretary Clinton and President Obama and his Administration put to the American people and the United Nations that it was a YouTube video instead of an attack by Islamic radicals upon our people and property.  It was Hillary Clinton's State department that sent out Susan Rice to lie to the American People about the cause of the attack on Benghazi all while knowing what they were promoting was a lie.  Even today relatives of those killed are being labeled (by Hillary Clinton) as liars because they dare to reveal that Clinton blamed the YouTube video as the cause their relatives were killed.  Still no one knows, nor has it been publicized where Obama was when the attack happened or when he knew about it.  Nor has it been revealed or told WHO issued the stand down order stopping any possible response or rescue mission.  

Extending this to today and showing it's still relevant it's still not known if Benghazi was chosen as a "soft target" account of information possibly gleaned from Hillary Clinton's server that was private and not protected as federal sites are, from hackers, so information hacked off her private server or correspondence could have actually contributed to the Benghazi attack.  It's not for sure or known for sure but is a possibility.  Hillary is continuing to be dishonest about her server by saying things were approved or legal when obviously they weren't and aren't.

Obamacare (Democratic Healthcare) Lies about cost, coverage, keeping your Doctors and current insurance were told to sell the bill.  Allowing it to be labeled a tax so it would sail past the Supreme Court then denying it is a tax any other times in order to sell it to the American People.  They knew what the cost was going to be, they knew the extreme increases in deductibles and ultimate cost to people yet they sold it as saving money instead of what it was going to do which was cost most people more money, greatly more money.   They knew many people would have to change doctors/providers account of having to change coverage and that many doctors wouldn't support it or be a part of the programs and thus may would not be able to keep their doctors.  In short they said and promoted the plan all while knowing that what they were saying was lies but lies that wouldn't be revealed as lies until years later, long after their agenda/plan was enacted.

Iranian Deal - Signing an agreement with Iran and selling it as an agreement that will deny them Nuclear weapons all while it contained many secret side/counter deals and concessions not known or publicized to the American People, an actual agreement that doesn't prohibit Iran from getting nuclear weapons but guarantees it over time.  

WORSE -  In the recent weeks/months Administration officials, employees, have come out BRAGGING about how they accomplished these agreements by lying to the American people, Lying about everything connected with them. 

WORSE THAN WORSE - The Media has been willing accomplices with the Administration not seeking answers to questions, not investigating and revealing the deliberate deceit and deception going on.   Fellow Democratic politicians willingly being ignorant and silent regarding the braggadocios lying, gleefully glad that they got away with it.  Contrast that to Bush's Iraq war decision that was based upon incorrect intelligence presented to him by our intelligence departments, same intelligence that congress also approved military action when Bush sought permission from Congress.  If ANY of the above three instances were by Republicans or Bush you, the Democrats and the media would have had people in jail, crucified, in courts, and impeached.  The inmates are truly in charge of the asylum.

Now who lied willingly to the American people?    WHO has been out PUBLICALLLY BRAGGING about lying in order to get their agenda passed?  YOU SEEM BUGGED and UPSET about BUSH's supposed lies but what do you think about OBAMA's deliberate lies?  Lies that are being bragged about by some in Obama's administration?

woz75 posted:

Sorry Hooberblob,

This is my post and it has absolutely nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. I know it's tough for you not to talk about her, but you just can't go around inserting her into everything. 

You can try again at dinner time when talking to your 53 cats 

If you don't want people posting truthful things that hurt your delicate feelings, then maybe you should meander on over to your safe space and suck your thumb while nuzzling up to your blankie. 

lol you're the one entering my 'safe place' Hooberblob - I bet you're thinking about Hillary Clinton right now and stroking your kitty...The cat gets enough affection, how about taking a dozen of them to the shelter so they have a chance at food before they all die of starvation in that sick trailer you call a domicile. 

GBRK? Is that some secret code crush on George W.? The WORST president in the entire history of the United States......The buck stops with the President, and it was he and his war mongering administration that knowingly sold everyone (except some smart people) the Iraq war that will continue to breed terrorists into the next millennium.....Sticking up for Bush is like having Stockholm Syndrome. ...There is no cure for such stupidity....And con men like Trump was happier than Hooberblob in a vat of cat pee when the housing market crashed so he could take advantage of people. 

I'm no fan of Bush, didn't vote for him, but with that being said I think he is infinitely better than Obama in multitudes of ways.  Bush also is far more Presidential in retirement than Obama is occupying the office now.  Additionally Bush definitely had respect for the Office and the United States as a Nation whereas Obama seems to loathe the Nation as founded and as it was when he assumed office and continues to apologize for it and treat our Nation, it's founders, and those before him, with contempt and disgust.   

As for the Buck stops with the President that apparently doesn't apply with Obama as people, even today, are reaching back into Bush's administration trying to blame then President Bush for situations that still exist today after 7+ years of Obama whether it's the economy or state of the world in general.  The war proclamation though does rest with multitudes of individuals as President Bush DID  seek Congressional approval and got it so while yes Bush does accept responsibility he could have been stopped by Congress.  Bush may have had the gun but Congress loaded it and pointed it for him.

Had Congress denied it we might not have gone to war there.   Had Bush 41 finished that first war and didn't pull up and stop it prematurely leaving an Iraq Revolutionary Guard and fighting army in place, with it's equipment, then George W might not have had to go to war.  If Clinton had not pulled up and stopped the killing of Osama Bin Laden, when we had him targeted and could have taken him out, then potentially the attack of September 11th and the Iraq war may not have even happened.  

I intensely disagree about Bush being the worst President for Obama, hands down, without a doubt, gets that title and I hope maintains it forever for anyone worse to follow is inconceivable to me.  Obama is as bad is it gets, I so greatly hope or our future as a nation is surely in doubt.

Back to Iraq war and the relevance of bringing up Congressional approval.  If that's a real sticking point with you then how do you give Hillary a pass?  She's just as culpable as Bush for the war along with a host of Democrats and Republicans for they gave him approval to go in.  Had that approval been denied then Bush would not have gone.  Hillary is running now for President so if the Iraq war is a valid gripe then add it to her as well for it reflects on her decision making ability and judgment. 

Returning again to Obama, the WORST American President of all time, with no competition that is close, I respectfully submit in the context of lies told the following again, as copied and posted from an above post, that got no comment to this point.  It very much is just as relevant now as a few post above:

Examples of deliberate purposeful lies to the American People:

Benghazi - It was known that the attacks on our Consulate was not due to a YouTube video but Secretary Clinton and President Obama and his Administration put to the American people and the United Nations that it was a YouTube video instead of an attack by Islamic radicals upon our people and property.  It was Hillary Clinton's State department that sent out Susan Rice to lie to the American People about the cause of the attack on Benghazi all while knowing what they were promoting was a lie.  Even today relatives of those killed are being labeled (by Hillary Clinton) as liars because they dare to reveal that Clinton blamed the YouTube video as the cause their relatives were killed.  Still no one knows, nor has it been publicized where Obama was when the attack happened or when he knew about it.  Nor has it been revealed or told WHO issued the stand down order stopping any possible response or rescue mission.  

Extending this to today and showing it's still relevant it's still not known if Benghazi was chosen as a "soft target" account of information possibly gleaned from Hillary Clinton's server that was private and not protected as federal sites are, from hackers, so information hacked off her private server or correspondence could have actually contributed to the Benghazi attack.  It's not for sure or known for sure but is a possibility.  Hillary is continuing to be dishonest about her server by saying things were approved or legal when obviously they weren't and aren't.  The purposeful lies were made for political expedience in a re-election year, just a month before the election out of fear it would hurt his re-election attempt.  Even today we (and the media hasn't required it to be revealed) don't know where the President was and when he knew about the attack.  NO WAY would any Republican President be allowed for this to happen and impeachment would hinge upon the answers, no doubt of that.

Obamacare (Democratic Healthcare) Lies about cost, coverage, keeping your Doctors and current insurance were told to sell the bill.  Allowing it to be labeled a tax so it would sail past the Supreme Court then denying it is a tax any other times in order to sell it to the American People.  They knew what the cost was going to be, they knew the extreme increases in deductibles and ultimate cost to people yet they sold it as saving money instead of what it was going to do which was cost most people more money, greatly more money.   They knew many people would have to change doctors/providers account of having to change coverage and that many doctors wouldn't support it or be a part of the programs and thus may would not be able to keep their doctors.  In short they said and promoted the plan all while knowing that what they were saying was lies but lies that wouldn't be revealed as lies until years later, long after their agenda/plan was enacted.  Again purposeful deliberate lies to achieve an agenda.

Iranian Deal - Signing an agreement with Iran and selling it as an agreement that will deny them Nuclear weapons all while it contained many secret side/counter deals and concessions not known or publicized to the American People, an actual agreement that doesn't prohibit Iran from getting nuclear weapons but guarantees it over time.  Purposeful deliberate lies about the deal in order to secure approval for it. 

WORSE -  In the recent weeks/months Administration officials, employees, have come out BRAGGING about how they accomplished these agreements by lying to the American people, Lying about everything connected with them.  This means that two separate Administration people, working for Obama, both with the Healthcare Bill AND Iranian deal have been out Bragging to the media how they pulled the wool over the eyes of the American people to where they could achieve their agenda.

WORSE THAN WORSE - The Media has been willing accomplices with the Administration not seeking or demanding answers to questions, not investigating and revealing the deliberate deceit and deception going on.   Fellow Democratic politicians willingly being ignorant and silent regarding the braggadocios lying, gleefully glad that they got away with it.  Republican politicians willingly removing impeachment threat off the table and burying their heads in the sand not calling the President out on the now known and publicized deliberate lies to achieve the agendas.  Ultimately giving up  on any and all Check's and Balances against the Executive branch by both the Judicial and Legislative branches of Government.  In these cases the protections built into, and designed into, the Constitution broke down and failed account of not being used.  Was it solely because those with the ability to control those Checks and Balances were afraid of being called racist or using them against the first minority President? 

Contrast that to Bush's Iraq war decision that was based upon incorrect intelligence presented to him by our intelligence departments, same intelligence that congress also approved military action when Bush sought permission from Congress.  If ANY of the above three instances were by Republicans or Bush you, the Democrats and the media would have had people in jail, crucified, in courts, and impeached.  The inmates are truly in charge of the asylum.

Now who lied willingly to the American people?    WHO has been out PUBLICALLLY BRAGGING about lying in order to get their agenda passed?  YOU SEEM BUGGED and UPSET about BUSH's supposed lies and with the Iraq war but what do you think about OBAMA's deliberate lies?  Lies that are being bragged about by some in Obama's administration about deceiving the American People? Does this mean anything to you today?  

Ask yourself one additional question, really, and be truthful, at least to yourself for you know how you would respond as most everyone else can theorize.  IF Obama had been a Republican or if the above stated lies (Benghazi, Healthcare bill, Iranian Agreement) had been tied to BUSH would you be making post demanding impeachment or even prosecution and prison?

 

While the term "stolen valor" could refer to untrue claims of stomping on a bug to "save" a little girl while you were in the first grade, it technically doesn't. The Stolen Valor Act of 2013 refers to military or ex-military claiming medals/commendations/awards that were not earned.

So, no, it doesn't refer to Hillary even though she lies whenever her lips move.

 

Navy to Posthumously Charge American Hero Chris Kyle with Stolen Valor

Odd.  It's been three days and other than vomiting the posted link, no other news source has mentioned charging Kyle with anything.

If they do, I wait with great anticipation direct examination.

 

woz75 posted:

Wow , you must be one of the slow ones BUDSFARM - Google is your friend

 http://www.ibtimes.com/stolen-...er-medals-he-2374241

 

Wow!  You must be "liking" your own post, woz.75 because no one would be so  . . . uh . . . slow other than you maybe not to note that nowhere in your link does it mention Kyle being charged  by the Navy with anything. *

Would you and your admirer like to take another shot?  **

[* emphasis added for the slow ones]

[** pun intended.]

 

Seriously Buds? Be straight with me. If you're mentally challenged I don't want to say anything that may be construed inappropriate. 

The Navy HAS NOT, I repeat..HAVE NOT charged him yet....They will soon be bringing charges....Before you shoot out from your blow hole next time maybe do the research first. 

You're welcome,

woz75

 

When I do research, woz, I generally find two or more credible links to support my position.  I see you did the same succeeding on the first and failing on the second.  Nobody, woz, nobody is stating Navy is going to bring charges except that ONE link.

Even your second link stood you up.  No mention of charges, pending or otherwise.

I feel like we're in circle talk now with the use personal adjectives on your part so In the meantime, it'll all work out for you and yours.

 

 

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