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Some of you will say this belongs in the Religion Section but due to Bill Gray's need to dominate things there, I choose here...so please forgive me.

Do you think it's wrong for a "Christian" to go to a nightclub/bar? Not to drink/get drunk, but just to listen to music & have a good time.
Some say it ruin's the testimony of a Christian to put themselves's in this kind of environment.
I would love to hear your opinion's on this.
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
The title "Christian" is much to generic and overly broad for any definite answer. With some churches you are a confirmed sinner just for thinking about alcoholic beverages. With others, it's no big deal.

A few I know of, just "having a good time" is a sin, regardless of whether alcohol or a bar is involved. Wink


Good answer. Also very true. Seems like with some even smiling is dangerous ground.
This is just my personal opinion ok? I believe the best way for a Christian is to lead by example. Not by brash, in your face posts on a forum or by continually pointing out what a person is doing wrong. A Christian can lead others to Christ by living the life. Because people watch you. So for me, if I was looking at a Christian and they went to a night club just for fun... It would make me doubt their seriousness of being a Christian. But i couldnt condemn them for it. I'm not the judge. Again, thats just how I might look at it.
For starters I am a Christian and have a good relationship with God. If I want to go to a bar I will, If I want to have a beer or 6 I will as long as it does not interfere with my other responsibilities.
A few years ago a friend of mine was in line at a grocery store with a bottle of wine, someone he knew from Church got in line behind him and while talking made the comment "well, they say a little wine is good for the stomach" my freind replied that it was not for his stomach, it was for his head.
Since I am a Baptist I often hear the argument that the wine spoke of in the Bible was actually just grape juice but that is a bunch of BS, the grape juice was fermented which means it was wine and had a decent alchohol content. I do not go to bars very often but when I am at one I usually notice I am not the only Baptist there.
If going to a bar or having some drinks makes anyone doubt my sincerity as a Christian then it is their problem and perhaps they should study their Bible a bit more.
At the same time the line at which drinking becomes a sin is where it causes problems, if someone does not have the money to provide for their family then they should not be buying alchoholic beverages, drinking and driving or anything else that might put others in danger is wrong, drinking to the point that it is damaging your health is wrong, becoming a slave to alchohol is wrong, if drinking get in your way of taking care of your family, yourself, work, or church then it is wrong. If you act responsibly there is nothing wrong with drinking. On a side note I like to take a trip to Tunica now and then too, nothing wrong with that either.
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Some of you will say this belongs in the Religion Section but due to Bill Gray's need to dominate things there, I choose here...so please forgive me. Cool

Do you think it's wrong for a "Christian" to go to a nightclub/bar? Not to drink/get drunk, but just to listen to music & have a good time.
Some say it ruin's the testimony of a Christian to put themselves's in this kind of environment.
I would love to hear your opinion's on this.


Semi, I don't think there is anything wrong with it.
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Originally posted by MrJones:
Yes, it's very wrong.

Don't do it.

After all, the very essence of fundevanglism is the paralyzing fear that someone, somewhere might be having fun.


Actually, that's the definition of a Puritan. Our southern cavalier ancestors bribed the captain of the Mayflower to take that bunch as far from Virginia as possible. Money well spent, I say!
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
The fact that you're asking for opinions proves that you think it might be wrong. Of course you could be amongst sinners trying to bear witness.


I'm asking because I'm not a Christian but my husband is. I want to go listen to music on New Year's Eve, he doesn't think it would be a good thing to do. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Either of us drink but he doesn't see anything wrong with drinking as long as it's in moderation.
I have a friend that claims to be a Christian, but she's in night clubs freqently...and gets drunk. Some Christian, huh?
It's all about perception. As a christian most feel there is a responsibility to "act" as a Christian would "act" and do the "things" Christians do. Problem is there are many things that are considered as questionable. Some people believe if a woman wears make up she is committing a sin. Problem is that is not in the bible. They have been told by someone they respect that it is a sin so they believe it. When you take something like the Word of God and pass it down for generations you will have thousands of different interpretations of God's Word.

If you wonder if it is sin to go to a bar and listen to music. I say no, but is it good for a Christian to be seen in that situation, I would have to say it hurts his or her witness as a Christian because so many people around here do view it as being wrong(hurts your christian witness). If you do this in another part of the country or world where it is accepted even from a Christian it would be fine.

Again, where the bible does not state anything about a certain "sin" or activity that could be portrayed as a sin you have to ask yourself, "how does this affect those that see me as a Christian." Does it hurt your witness? If it does then it should not be done.

Does it send you to hell??? No. If a person is truly a Christian he or she is that for eternity.
The Bible does not forbid the use of alcohol, but it does admonish against the use of "strong drink." In Biblical times, the highest beverage alcohol content that could be produced was about 11-12 percent. That would have been "strong drink" by Biblical standards, so Christians following the Biblical teaching would be expected, if they used alcohol, to drink beverages below that content level. What does that say about current practice, which often involves drinking high-proof spirits that achieve up to 45-50 percent alcohol? Just something to think about.
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
The fact that you're asking for opinions proves that you think it might be wrong. Of course you could be amongst sinners trying to bear witness.


I'm asking because I'm not a Christian but my husband is. I want to go listen to music on New Year's Eve, he doesn't think it would be a good thing to do. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Either of us drink but he doesn't see anything wrong with drinking as long as it's in moderation.
I have a friend that claims to be a Christian, but she's in night clubs freqently...and gets drunk. Some Christian, huh?


Semi,
I quit worrying about what other people think a long time ago and suggest you do the same. I often on lay overs go to the local pub and have a drink with the rest of the crew. Especially if they serve Guinness. Razzer I am faithful to my wife and try to be to my Christian beliefs.
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Some of you will say this belongs in the Religion Section but due to Bill Gray's need to dominate things there, I choose here...so please forgive me. Cool

Do you think it's wrong for a "Christian" to go to a nightclub/bar? Not to drink/get drunk, but just to listen to music & have a good time.
Some say it ruin's the testimony of a Christian to put themselves's in this kind of environment.
I would love to hear your opinion's on this.

I say, if it's legal and you want it, go for it. You only go around once.
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Originally posted by Killen Lady:
You have some very good answers here....I frequent bars but I don't see any Christians there! If there are, they don't look like Christians when they are there.


So what does a Christian look like? I thought we looked like everyone else!
Of course being a strong believer in moderation, when I am at a bar having drinks I am not the guy passed out at the bar, not the guy puking, not the guy stumbling everywhere,I am the one that is still having a good time at closing and can still remember it the next day, the guy not bumping into everything on his way out the door although sometimes when I go out the door it is to get in a Taxi for a ride home.
I think it depends on the person. You should stay away from anything that compromises your own beliefs and principles. Personally, I see nothing wrong with a Christian going to a bar to hear a band or having a drink there or at home. However, if going to that bar means that you are going to have a hard time stopping at one or two drinks, then maybe get into a compromising situation with someone other than your spouse, drive intoxicated, or do any other thing that could get you in trouble, then no, you shouldn't do it.

As far as " ruining your testimony", well, that depends on to whom you're being a "testimony". For example: are you a parent who is telling your kids not to go to bars? Are you a church leader and expected by the beliefs of your congregation not to go to such places? Or are you just worried about what some people will think? Chances are, if they see you there, they have no room to judge, lol.
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
If Christians ONLY associate with fellow Christians, HOW do they (Christians) plan to convert anyone?


Good point. Makes one think. In fact, I think that I will go to a bar tonight and look for somebody to convert!

Just a bit of humor. Don't anybody tell Sheri that I made this post.


LOL. Reminds of the song with the line "Can I get a witness?"
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Originally posted by HIFLYER:
Semi, I quit worrying about what other people think a long time ago and suggest you do the same. I often on lay overs go to the local pub and have a drink with the rest of the crew. Especially if they serve Guinness. Razzer I am faithful to my wife and try to be to my Christian beliefs.


Thank you, HIFLYER. I don't care what people think either but apparently, my husband does.
I guess I'll be staying home New Years Eve. Frowner
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by uandurine:
I say, if it's legal and you want it, go for it. You only go around once.


True, but I'm not one of those that "go around" without my husband. Wink


That's sweet, semi. Smiler You could do what we party animals in my house do and try to finish a jigsaw puzzle before midnight, and have some good hors d'oeuvres ?(we glue the puzzle together and save them, a nice reminder of a new year together).

Start a new tradition with your sweety. That will give honor to him. And good things come around when you treat people special.
I am a born-again Christian, attended a church there in Florence faithfully for several years and had a lot of the folks there ticked off at me for various things. One of the big things was my idea about talking to others about Jesus. A bunch of us (ages 18-25) would go out to eat after Sunday night service, usually Shoney's. One night I saw some friends of mine there I had not seen in a while-- 2 gay couples, one set male and one set female-- and said something about going over to speak to them. I was admonished by the others not to. "We don't need to be speaking to people like that in public" was the consensus. I asked why. "Because they are, you know... gay" the last word was whispered. I then asked how we were supposed to spread the word of God to sinners if we didn't go to the sinners, because if we acted like my fellow-worshipers were then the sinners sure as heck weren't going to come to us. Then I lowered the boom.... "Did Jesus not walk among the who*es and other sinners to spread the gospel?".... needless to say, I was not invited to go out to eat very often after that. I am still of that opinion... to spread the word, you gotta go to where it is needed.....

If the individual who started this thread goes to a club or bar to enjoy the music, they just might be able to get "the word" out to someone who is there for other reasons.... I say go for it, enjoy yourself and don't be afraid to tell others you are a Christian and invite them to church. Avoid the alcohol and be an example... just because you are a Christian does not mean you have to be "stodgy" or a stick in the mud. A lot of the problem is that people think if you are a Christian, you can't have any fun... don't try to tell me Jesus didn't laugh and perhaps toss a ball around a time or two, or play games with the children..... having fun and all the while being an example to others.
do what your heart says. you know in your gut what will be the best for you and your husband.

on a sidenote to dogsoldier0513 (if they only associate with fellow christians how do they plan to convert anyone), i spoke with a pastor's wife i've gotten to know over the last few months. we have been talking about the lack of participation in their church. most people on roster have stopped going, and there is no new people coming in. i asked her about the annual xmas program she usually plans. she said that the church committee decided that they "didn't want to take the chance of scum coming into their church" from the outlying neighborhood. instead of spreading their faith, improving the neighborhood, good works, they have selected to close themselves to new experiences and people. i don't know if its possible for a church to "close" physically, but spiritually theyre doing a pretty good job of it. maybe they need to go hang out and listen to music at the bar and get some new recruits Wink
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Originally posted by Calypso:
If the individual who started this thread goes to a club or bar to enjoy the music, they just might be able to get "the word" out to someone who is there for other reasons.... I say go for it, enjoy yourself and don't be afraid to tell others you are a Christian and invite them to church. Avoid the alcohol and be an example... just because you are a Christian does not mean you have to be "stodgy" or a stick in the mud. A lot of the problem is that people think if you are a Christian, you can't have any fun... don't try to tell me Jesus didn't laugh and perhaps toss a ball around a time or two, or play games with the children..... having fun and all the while being an example to others.


I'm the individual that started this thread and am not a Christian & have no desire to be. I've been down that road & found the unsaved to be much nicer & kinder than the "Christians" I sit next to during church services.
As far as being an example to others, you don't have to be a Christian to do that. Being kind to people & treating them how you want to be treated is being an example too.
BTW, neither my husband or myself drink but we see nothing wrong with it in moderation. Wink
I'm a little late reading this thread. I wanted to suggest staying in with your husband, putting on some music, fixing some hors dourves, and having a little private party. My sis and her husband, married almost 30 years, do this every year. They like to dance to the 80's music they listened to when they were dating. They do drink, but of course that's a personal preference. You could have quite a nice little party without the alcohol if you wanted.
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Do you think it's wrong for a "Christian" to go to a nightclub/bar? Not to drink/get drunk, but just to listen to music & have a good time.
Some say it ruin's the testimony of a Christian to put themselves's in this kind of environment.
I would love to hear your opinion's on this.


No. There is nothing wrong about going out to hear a good band, enjoy a couple of beers, and hang out with friends. Christ's first miracle was making wine at a party.

The problems arise when you lose control of yourself and do things you know are wrong. Getting drunk simply makes it easier to disregard your morals for a brief time. As long as you remain in control of your faculties, there is nothing wrong with going out and having fun.

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