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Politics has always been a cut throat business and there are always accusations and false stories about all candidates but this election has revealed a most disturbing trend that from henceforth will not be remedied or forgotten.

NEVER in our history has our democracy and freedom been in jeopardy from our own freedoms yet even the most ardent liberal should be able to understand and comprehend the outright sell out, all in, actions of most of the National media, both print and broadcast.   Never has the media, on such a wholesale level, banded together with the sole purpose of the destruction of a  candidate by deliberate manipulation of the news and media and on such a large profound scale.  It should give all freedom loving people pause and concern.   The media, or most of it, has never been friendly to Republicans or conservatives but they have not even tried to put a pretense on of being objective in this election.   

The irony is that never has there been such a candidate, as Hillary Clinton, so flawed and corrupt as to present honest and legitimate media reasons to investigate or report on actual stories of corruption and failures yet there is a concerted effort, among the media, print and broadcast, overtly, to not only shield Hillary Clinton from any investigations, reporting, or speculation regarding her past job performance, Benghazi, lying, and Clinton Foundation activities while she was serving as Secretary of State, but along with overtly covering up and not reporting about her you have them actively seeking and promoting the destruction of Donald Trump and categorizing him as a racist and everything the man obviously is not.   IF Trump was racist and if Trump hated an offended women, think about it, would have NEVER obtained the TV series he did on NBC.  Trump, as large as his company and his business dealings are would have certainly been in court over discrimination cases and the like all along.  There is plenty of circumstantial evidence that Trump is neither racist or sexist yet the media doesn't care if Trump is a good man, nor do they care who is running for they would have sought to kill and eliminate any Republican or conservative or any viable candidate that is against Clinton or that would threaten her chance to be a shew in.

This is effectively losing our country when the complete, or most of it, media becomes so biased to such a degree.  Never mind the other warning signs such as two branches of Government, some would argue three, that no longer function according to the Constitution we were founded by.  The Supreme Court in manufacturing a way to justify Democratic Healthcare (Obamacare) putting Government in such huge control of our Healthcare Insurance just proved that the Court no longer works but has become political and able to be affected by polls and news broadcast as to what the people want or desire.

An executive branch that is utterly corrupt and not concerned about Constitutional restrictions upon it's power that has become caviler about abuses of Government such as deceiving the American public about Healthcare or other major agreements such as the Iran Deal/Agreement.  The handing of assault weapons to criminal Mexican gangs in "Fast and Furious" , using of the IRS against political enemies and when caught the guilty people are allowed to have their emails and their documents of corruption and criminal activity to go missing and no one cares about it while they, the guilty, are allowed to retire with huge golden parachutes and benefit packages that will go on for decades in their fat government retirement all for being a part of a huge abuse of power.  Then you have an event such as Benghazi whereby we had diplomats murdered/killed, our compound attacked and four killed while a stand down order was issued to those who could have responded to the attack and saved lives, was given by someone, but no one knows who nor seems to care who.  We have a sitting President who was somewhere yet the American people are kept in the dark about where he was during the attack or when he actually knew what was going on and don't know what he did in response to the attack if anything except the only thing we, American people, do know is HE and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton  continued to lie about and broadcast a lie to the American people and the world about the reason for the attack being a youtube video, even to the point of arresting the person who made the video that was used in the lie. 

Then add to that the willful and deliberate decisions of our own Justice department to not prosecute or indict Hillary over proven abuses and criminal use of the email system that most certainly revealed some secret or classified documents and material to foreign enemies and possibly led to attacks on our compound in Benghazi and possibly to the killing of people that were under cover, working for our Government.  We have the Justice Department telling the FBI not to investigate conflicts of interest of Hillary while secretary of State with regards to the Clinton Foundation for activities that would have certainly put others in prison immediately while they await trial or that possibly could have been considered treasonous all while the media becomes blind, dumb, and silent/mute on anything to do with abuse of Government on such an unprecedented scale.  Deliberate abuses, not accidental. 

How can even liberals, if they think about it, not consider that our Nation is lost and in severe jeopardy from the eroding of respect for our Constitution to the politicization of the Supreme Court, the corruption of the Executive branch and the final Branch of Government a Legislative that while controlled by Republicans is totally ineffective and flaccid voluntarily giving up it's ability to impeach for abuses of Government or failing to use it's powers of the purse and other investigative means whereby to be a check against the abuses laid out above.  

And while not a check and balance of Government, due to not being a part of the Government, the  media, a free and supposedly impartial, media that could report on, investigate and keep a Government gone corrupt, is not only in the tank for their own political interest but they fail to report on corruption or anything negative for their chosen political positional slant while they put their vast resources into full, unprecedented action, against another political party or person that they have chosen to destroy for the overtly evident cause to prevent him from having a chance to be elected.

Last we have an electorate that, for all practical purposes is already assumed to be decided as to whom they will support and vote for regardless of the candidate or what the candidate does or believes.  47% or more will vote Democratic regardless off what the candidate does, says, or has done while an equal number will vote Republican regardless leaving only a hand full of independent or undecided to determine the election.  In fact the dangerous thing is the actual percentage of people that actually will decide the election for President is so small that it could well be corrupted and manipulated for a desired outcome. 

Have we reached the point that although we declare ourselves to be free that we have lost our freedoms and lost our nation, at least, as it existed at the time most of us were born?  Have we actually been taken over from within by a political party and by a biased media to the point that a minority is actually ruling and no longer is their hold on power threatened by even an election?  As we allow more and more undocumented and illegal people into our nation, people without respect for our freedoms or our beginnings, are we not sewing the seeds of our own demise and collapse of our nation from within?   WE are stockpiling the fuel, so to say, for the destruction of our own Government and economy as we destroy all that has previously made us strong and great all in the name of Political correctness and a political philosophy? 

Have we actually reached the point where reason no longer is a factor in elections and that we can actually elect someone so overtly corrupt and criminal as Hillary Clinton?  When our own electorate is being challenged by allowing illegals and non-citizens to vote to determine our future Governments?     There is actually the numbers of illegals and undocumented people being allowed into our nation, into certain states and areas, in such numbers and allowed to be given drivers licenses along with the absence of voter ID laws that could very well allow a national election to be swung, stolen, influenced, by people that are not even citizens or who care less about our Constitutional form of Government and who even care less about America as a nation as it is.  In fact many who proudly wave another nations flag as they spit on and trample on our own Flag and what it represents all while the  media continues to justify and promote it.

If we have not lost our nation we are surely, extremely, closer than at any point in history.  It isn't the Russians or Chinese or even the North Koreans that we should fear but we ourselves and our own apathy and careless approach to our history, our founding documents and form of Government that allowed us to become the greatest Nation in History.  Yet we all know that even the greatest Nations before us have failed and not lasted and ours is but still young in being over 250 years or so old.  

I honestly hate to sound like Chicken little, screaming that the sky is falling, but I'm wondering if the sky hasn't already fallen and we are just not aware of it?  As with all my post it is my own opinion and for those who I have politically offended I apologize in advance and respectfully ask that you wake up and look at this administration that so many feel was so good and realize just how corrupt it has been and what has been allowed to happen under it's watch.

 

 

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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jtdavis posted:

She has been investigated for the last 20  something years. Result, a lot of money spent. The real threat to america is the unwillingness of either side to work together to solve our problems.

Just curious JT, do you feel she's honestly innocent?   Do you not believe she got protection from Obama and the Justice department with respect to her emails and the Clinton Foundation as far as conflict of interest problems while she was Secretary of State?  Does it not bother you that she called the relatives of the dead at Benghazi liars because they said she lied to them about the cause of their loved one's deaths?    I'm just curious if you honestly feel that she's totally innocent in all this and that everything was a political witch hunt?

gbrk posted:
jtdavis posted:

She has been investigated for the last 20  something years. Result, a lot of money spent. The real threat to america is the unwillingness of either side to work together to solve our problems.

Just curious JT, do you feel she's honestly innocent?   Do you not believe she got protection from Obama and the Justice department with respect to her emails and the Clinton Foundation as far as conflict of interest problems while she was Secretary of State?  Does it not bother you that she called the relatives of the dead at Benghazi liars because they said she lied to them about the cause of their loved one's deaths?    I'm just curious if you honestly feel that she's totally innocent in all this and that everything was a political witch hunt?

 The Fourth Estate has evolved into the Fifth Column and is clearly cheerleading for someone who would nominate Supreme Court justices who consider the Bill of Rights as only a suggestion. In fairness, when Bernie Sanders was running, news agencies sort of covered the Clinton corruption because the majority of the news media was pulling for Sanders; but now the majority of the news media seems to have amnesia about that reporting. If this nation is in such a sorry state of corruption that it will willingly sell its soul to see the productive citizens punished and robbed for working hard, it will deserve what it gets.

See I don't have that kind of optimism.  I think there is enough out there to make a decision on that proves she's unfit for President by her actions while serving as Secretary of State.  The democrats have far better they could have run but I believe she's been promised this and feels entitled to it.  I think if she had been a Republican she would have definitely been under indictment and most likely she'd be in jail.

Sorry GB, but there aren't words left that haven't been
said to jt in proof to frame the timeline from 2008 to 2016
and as to why hellery didn't have a chance then and why
Bernie didn't have a chance now.
 
Why the lying media didn't report the truth then and why the
media doesn't report the truth now and doesn't report who's
behind the money pulling the strings and why mobumer
covers the crimes of the dems, mobumer should be indicted as
Kerry, the Clinton's, holder, lynch and at least a dozen to start
with for crimes of treason against the U.S. of America.
 
jt is the poster person for all the clueless and non believers
of the truth as it's laid out before them.

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