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In the final hours of Barack Obama’s presidency, some White House officials reportedly raced to spread and preserve information about possible communications between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and Russians.

The New York Times, citing former American officials, reported that these officials were concerned that the information they were gaining on the Russian meddling in the election and the possible campaign contact could be compromised with the new administration, and they wanted to set up any future investigation with the information. According to The Times, after Obama asked for an investigation into Russian tampering into the elections, officials found some “****ing” evidence.

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Just how deep is this Trump - Russia thing..??

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MonkeysUncleByMarriage posted:

Anyone whom views Russian interference in our democracy so flippantly is at best ardently bias and at worst unconcerned with democratic rule. 

I have not yet seen any evidence of Russian interference in the election, but there is no doubt that Russian intelligence hacked the emails of dems because of the lack of intelligence of dems. Hell, with a password of "password", I suspect all international intelligence agencies from Albania's to Zimbabwe's got freebies. I might note that the courier who delivered the leaked emails to wikileaks has said he didn't get the emails at a drop in Gorky Park:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...cratic-insiders.html

Exactly what are the Russians supposed to have done to support the Trump campaign?  The DNC and RNC were hacked in 2015.  The FBI warned both. The RNC installed anti-hacking software.  The DNC didn't. Hacking started in earnest on DNC servers in April 2016 -- servers still unprotected.  John Podesta fell for a phishing ploy to expose his email password (PASSWORD).  Trump was considered a dark horse until late in the campaign. Even as the Republican candidate, polls showed him as trailing Hillary.  Why would the Russians support such as dark horse? And, exactly what did they do to support him?   

The Russians are masters of disruption and have been since the days of the czar.  Whatever interference they've done was to sow chaos in the US body politic They're doing so in the Ukraine, now.  Recently, their presence was found in a number of EU nations.  Democrats are serving their traditional role as useful idiots assisting the Russians in their campaign of disruption.

The House Select Committee on Intelligence should take up both Russian interference and leaks.  Subpoena Nancy Pelosi, Chuckie Schumer and Al Franken to begin. Demand to know who gave them the info.  If they refuse, request the Solicitor General prosecute. Nice to see them in jail for a few months.  Yes, determine Russian interference, but trace the leaks as well.  Depending upon the info, government employees have committed felonies and misdemeanors.  Be interesting it the trail lead to OFA or Resist. OFA is Obama's creation.

 

according to the 'wallstreet journal' AG sessions used 'trump campaign money' to attend the meetings with the russian ambassador. from the rt. wingnuts " lets prosecute the people who got the leaks."

wasn't it the rt. wingnuts who said 'who cares where the leaks came from? what's important is the information contained in the leaks."? or does that just count when attacking democrats?

the hypocrisy of the republicans/conservatives knows no bounds.

were this obama's cabinet/campaign officals, the rt. wingnuts would be reenacting scenes from the exorcist.

Crash.Override posted:

according to the 'wallstreet journal' AG sessions used 'trump campaign money' to attend the meetings with the russian ambassador. from the rt. wingnuts " lets prosecute the people who got the leaks."

wasn't it the rt. wingnuts who said 'who cares where the leaks came from? what's important is the information contained in the leaks."? or does that just count when attacking democrats?

the hypocrisy of the republicans/conservatives knows no bounds.

were this obama's cabinet/campaign officals, the rt. wingnuts would be reenacting scenes from the exorcist.

There were two meetings.  One at Sessions' Senate office. It would be against the rules for him to discuss politics with anyone when in that office.  He would meet at the RNC HQ for that. Sessions had two staffers with him at that meeting.  Not a good idea to do anything not above board with two witnesses.  The second time was after Sessions gave a speech at the Heritage Foundation.  Sessions shook the hand of several ambassadors in a line while speaking briefly with them.  Not on government property. 

 

direstraits posted:
Crash.Override posted:

according to the 'wallstreet journal' AG sessions used 'trump campaign money' to attend the meetings with the russian ambassador. from the rt. wingnuts " lets prosecute the people who got the leaks."

wasn't it the rt. wingnuts who said 'who cares where the leaks came from? what's important is the information contained in the leaks."? or does that just count when attacking democrats?

the hypocrisy of the republicans/conservatives knows no bounds.

were this obama's cabinet/campaign officals, the rt. wingnuts would be reenacting scenes from the exorcist.

There were two meetings.  One at Sessions' Senate office. It would be against the rules for him to discuss politics with anyone when in that office.  He would meet at the RNC HQ for that. Sessions had two staffers with him at that meeting.  Not a good idea to do anything not above board with two witnesses.  The second time was after Sessions gave a speech at the Heritage Foundation.  Sessions shook the hand of several ambassadors in a line while speaking briefly with them.  Not on government property. 

 

if sessons' was meeting as a senator.. why use campaign funds to travel to the meeting?  imagine that... using campaign funds to preform your senatorial duties?

The Trump administration says Attorney General Jeff Sessions was acting as a then-U.S. senator when he talked to Russia’s ambassador at an event during last year’s Republican National Convention in Cleveland, but Mr. Sessions paid for convention travel expenses out of his own political funds and he spoke about Donald Trump’s campaign at the event, according to a person at the event and campaign-finance records.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/j...-expenses-1488509301

Crash.Override posted:
direstraits posted:
Crash.Override posted:

according to the 'wallstreet journal' AG sessions used 'trump campaign money' to attend the meetings with the russian ambassador. from the rt. wingnuts " lets prosecute the people who got the leaks."

wasn't it the rt. wingnuts who said 'who cares where the leaks came from? what's important is the information contained in the leaks."? or does that just count when attacking democrats?

the hypocrisy of the republicans/conservatives knows no bounds.

were this obama's cabinet/campaign officals, the rt. wingnuts would be reenacting scenes from the exorcist.

There were two meetings.  One at Sessions' Senate office. It would be against the rules for him to discuss politics with anyone when in that office.  He would meet at the RNC HQ for that. Sessions had two staffers with him at that meeting.  Not a good idea to do anything not above board with two witnesses.  The second time was after Sessions gave a speech at the Heritage Foundation.  Sessions shook the hand of several ambassadors in a line while speaking briefly with them.  Not on government property. 

 

if sessons' was meeting as a senator.. why use campaign funds to travel to the meeting?  imagine that... using campaign funds to preform your senatorial duties?

The Trump administration says Attorney General Jeff Sessions was acting as a then-U.S. senator when he talked to Russia’s ambassador at an event during last year’s Republican National Convention in Cleveland, but Mr. Sessions paid for convention travel expenses out of his own political funds and he spoke about Donald Trump’s campaign at the event, according to a person at the event and campaign-finance records.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/j...-expenses-1488509301

If we're playing by Schumer rules; you said, "according to the 'wallstreet journal' AG sessions used 'trump campaign money' to attend the meetings with the russian ambassador." . The Wall Street Journal said he used his own money to attend the convention:

"The Trump administration says Attorney General Jeff Sessions was acting as a then-U.S. senator when he talked to Russia’s ambassador at an event during last year’s Republican National Convention in Cleveland, but Mr. Sessions paid for convention travel expenses out of his own political funds and he spoke about Donald Trump’s campaign at the event, according to a person at the event and campaign-finance records."

I suspect that Sessions behaved as any other politician would have when a herd of diplomats flocked him; he shook their hands and piled on polite political make nice-nice words. Go find something better to worry about!

Crash.Override posted:
direstraits posted:
Crash.Override posted:

according to the 'wallstreet journal' AG sessions used 'trump campaign money' to attend the meetings with the russian ambassador. from the rt. wingnuts " lets prosecute the people who got the leaks."

wasn't it the rt. wingnuts who said 'who cares where the leaks came from? what's important is the information contained in the leaks."? or does that just count when attacking democrats?

the hypocrisy of the republicans/conservatives knows no bounds.

were this obama's cabinet/campaign officals, the rt. wingnuts would be reenacting scenes from the exorcist.

There were two meetings.  One at Sessions' Senate office. It would be against the rules for him to discuss politics with anyone when in that office.  He would meet at the RNC HQ for that. Sessions had two staffers with him at that meeting.  Not a good idea to do anything not above board with two witnesses.  The second time was after Sessions gave a speech at the Heritage Foundation.  Sessions shook the hand of several ambassadors in a line while speaking briefly with them.  Not on government property. 

 

if sessons' was meeting as a senator.. why use campaign funds to travel to the meeting?  imagine that... using campaign funds to preform your senatorial duties?

The Trump administration says Attorney General Jeff Sessions was acting as a then-U.S. senator when he talked to Russia’s ambassador at an event during last year’s Republican National Convention in Cleveland, but Mr. Sessions paid for convention travel expenses out of his own political funds and he spoke about Donald Trump’s campaign at the event, according to a person at the event and campaign-finance records.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/j...-expenses-1488509301

The office meeting was as a senator.  The second meeting was during RNC convention.  Sessions attended a Heritage Foundation meeting, where he gave a political speech.  That's why political funds were used.  Sessions met the Russian ambassador as one of several that attended the speech.  Reportedly, Sessions shook the hands of several and exchanged words -- that's it. 

John Le Carre material, it isn't.

There are about 90 political appointee lawyers allotted to DoJ.  Trump should direct those to begin investigations into a number of the Obama/Hillary/Holder imbroglios.  The present leaks, gun running, the server/email, and embezzling of millions in DoJ settlement funds to begin.  Keep the investigations on the QT for a time.  Then, if juicy info emerges, begin to let the info out. 

direstraits posted:

There are about 90 political appointee lawyers allotted to DoJ.  Trump should direct those to begin investigations into a number of the Obama/Hillary/Holder imbroglios.  The present leaks, gun running, the server/email, and embezzling of millions in DoJ settlement funds to begin.  Keep the investigations on the QT for a time.  Then, if juicy info emerges, begin to let the info out. 

This might be going on more than we know, but I would
start an investigation on Holder, that could cool mobumer
heels knowing he would be drug into it himself.
It's not like Trump to seem a little passive but I really don't
know what's in the works, I wish it would open up. Start a
back fire if nothing else..
Bestworking posted:
giftedamateur posted:

You libs are just upset that the truth about the Hildabeast and the DNC was finally revealed. How did the "reveal" interfere with Democracy?

They make up and just throw out the BS claims and move on, they don't answer any questions about them. You see how jt does it. They LIE. Demoslops are just useless.

this is exactly what the ignorant rt. wingnuts are guilty of doing.... exactly like the current twitter in chief.. make claims of 'fake news' all while making up the fake news.. say like using twitter to say 'obama put wiretaps in trump towers' without one shred of proof. the republicans can't open their mouth without a lie coming out. just take a look at the record of the trump administration. and yet, people like bestatnotworking still scream about the lying democrats... you can't make this stuff up. it's on every news channel.. INCLUDING FOX, yet the stupidity of the republicans just can't handle the truth... the cling to their 'alternative facts'.  and more from the 'fake news crowd' in 3...2...1.

Crash.Override posted:
Bestworking posted:
giftedamateur posted:

You libs are just upset that the truth about the Hildabeast and the DNC was finally revealed. How did the "reveal" interfere with Democracy?

They make up and just throw out the BS claims and move on, they don't answer any questions about them. You see how jt does it. They LIE. Demoslops are just useless.

this is exactly what the ignorant rt. wingnuts are guilty of doing.... exactly like the current twitter in chief.. make claims of 'fake news' all while making up the fake news.. say like using twitter to say 'obama put wiretaps in trump towers' without one shred of proof. the republicans can't open their mouth without a lie coming out. just take a look at the record of the trump administration. and yet, people like bestatnotworking still scream about the lying democrats... you can't make this stuff up. it's on every news channel.. INCLUDING FOX, yet the stupidity of the republicans just can't handle the truth... the cling to their 'alternative facts'.  and more from the 'fake news crowd' in 3...2...1.

Wiretapping Trump is not much of a jump from wiretapping Gen. Flynn and then leaking the rumor of Russian collusion without the facts to the Obama sycophant press. If true, someone needs to be put under a federal prison for a very long time; just the Flynn affair makes Nixon appear to be a saint.

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Crash.Override posted:

so.. to rt. wingnuts.. before the campaign.. forget where the leaks came from.. look at the informations..

after the elections.... **** what the leaks say.. prosecute the leakers!

funny how hypocrisy works. now, tell me more about the hypocrisy of the left.. while you ignore the elephant in the room.

I believe Julian Assange has hinted that the leaker has already been given an Arkansan prosecution:

http://www.newsweek.com/seth-r...-donald-trump-492084

jtdavis posted:

Right wing alternative facts, ain't it amazing what they dream up

What amazes intelligent normal people is reading the things
that amaze you. You and crash could write a "little golden
book" for imbecile socialist.. Here's a proven fact for you JT,
liberal dems are the most uninformed when it comes to
anything political.. Why is that.?

what amazes me is there are literally DOZENS of studies that show republicans and fox news watcher are the least informed voters.. yet, those alternative facts tell the republicans they're more informed... you can't make this stuff up... unless you're a republican, then you can.

you can't have your own facts... unless you're a republican.

Jack Flash posted:
jtdavis posted:

Right wing alternative facts, ain't it amazing what they dream up

What amazes intelligent normal people is reading the things
that amaze you. You and crash could write a "little golden
book" for imbecile socialist.. Here's a proven fact for you JT,
liberal dems are the most uninformed when it comes to
anything political.. Why is that.?

They're scary ignorant and untruthful to boot.

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