Obama Visit The UK, Opens Mouth and Step In It.

The Brits, tired of shouldering a larger fiscal share of support for the European Union and dubious of being forced to take a large share of the north African and middle eastern refugees will vote on staying in the EU on 23 June. The British Exit (Brexit) is now quite popular encouraging a new political party – UKIP. 

Don’t know what it is Obama has against the Brits – disdain inherited from his once met father or complete cluelessness -- inappropriate gifts, diplomatic stumbling, sending back the bust of Churchill, and more.

During his recent visit, he adopted the Godfather’s warning that if the UK left the EU, the UK would be sent to the back of the line (he used the Brit term queue) as to any free trade agreements, which the US is negotiating with the EU.  Like the Godfather, “Nice little country you got, too bad if it got broken,”

“Barack Obama has warned that the UK would be at the “back of the queue” in any trade deal with the US if the country chose to leave the EU, as he made an emotional plea to Britons to vote for staying in.

The US president used a keenly awaited press conference with David Cameron, held at the Foreign Office, to explain why he had the “temerity to weigh in” over the high-stakes British question in an intervention that delighted remain campaigners.

Obama argued that he had a right to respond to the claims of Brexit campaigners that Britain would easily be able to negotiate a fresh trade deal with the US. “They are voicing an opinion about what the United States is going to do, I figured you might want to hear from the president of the United States what I think the United States is going to do.”

http://www.theguardian.com/pol...ueue-for-trade-talks

One can tell Obama has entered lame duck status.  An official from the US Office of International Trade issued a rebuke that the UK was not too small a nation to negotiate a free trade agreement with.  When members of the executive branch of the civil service make statements in direct opposition to the president, one knows Obama is considered a spent round.

http://www.breitbart.com/londo...fice-trade-official/

Obama doubled down with a statement it could be 10 years before the US would negotiate a trade agreement.

“And on that matter, for example, I think it’s fair to say that maybe some point down the line there might be a UK-US trade agreement, but it’s not going to happen any time soon because our focus is in negotiating with a big bloc, the European Union, to get a trade agreement done”.

He added: “The UK is going to be in the back of the queue.” 

A trade deal between Britain and the United States could take five to 10 years to negotiate if Britain votes to leave the European Union in a June 23 referendum, U.S. President Barack Obama told the BBC in an interview broadcast on Sunday."

http://www.businessinsider.com...ama-tells-bbc-2016-4

The mayor of London, who is in favor of the Brexit and quite plain spoken issued a statement.

London Mayor Boris Johnson aired the notion that President Barack Obama harbors an “ancestral dislike” of the British Empire due to his part-Kenyan heritage, in a very public trans-Atlantic rift over thefuture of the U.K.’s membership in the European Union.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/...on-churchill-brexit/

I suspect his public affairs office cleaned up Boris’s statement.  More likely, it was more like, “Bugger off, Obama!”

 

 

TRUTH -- THE NEW HATE SPEECH!

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Obama constantly uses the explanation that he only heard about something from the news.  What happened to the vast operations that provide his office with information -- supposedly ahead of the press.  Perhaps, he should just subcontract to Fox and save money. Similarly, doesn't the State Department have a protocol office to keep federal officials from putting both feet in mouth and head up duffle bag before acting and speaking.

It is well understood that visiting diplomatic delegations come bearing gifts and gift giving is returned in like fashion by the host country. It is an ages old human practice in diplomacy after all. Usually the gifts are valuable, representative of the products of the nations involved, or at least symbolic of the history of those nations.

For his part, PM Brown gave two symbolic gifts and one that expressed national pride. Brown came bearing a pen holder carved from the timbers of the sister ship of that which gave the wood to create the famous "Resolute Desk," the desk that has been in America's charge since 1880. He also gave Obama the framed commission for that famous ship, the HMS Resolute. His third gift was a seven-volume biography of one of England's greatest leaders, Winston Churchill.

So, what did President Obama give the British PM? 25 movies on DVD. Yeah, that's it. Brown gives a symbolic gift like the pen holder fashioned from a famous British warship and Obama responds by sending a staffer to WalMart to pick up a few quick movies.

Jack Flash posted:

It is well understood that visiting diplomatic delegations come bearing gifts and gift giving is returned in like fashion by the host country. It is an ages old human practice in diplomacy after all. Usually the gifts are valuable, representative of the products of the nations involved, or at least symbolic of the history of those nations.

For his part, PM Brown gave two symbolic gifts and one that expressed national pride. Brown came bearing a pen holder carved from the timbers of the sister ship of that which gave the wood to create the famous "Resolute Desk," the desk that has been in America's charge since 1880. He also gave Obama the framed commission for that famous ship, the HMS Resolute. His third gift was a seven-volume biography of one of England's greatest leaders, Winston Churchill.

So, what did President Obama give the British PM? 25 movies on DVD. Yeah, that's it. Brown gives a symbolic gift like the pen holder fashioned from a famous British warship and Obama responds by sending a staffer to WalMart to pick up a few quick movies.

And here they are:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...likes-Wizard-Oz.html

Couldn't help but notice 1776 didn't make the list.

 

budsfarm posted:
Jack Flash posted:

It is well understood that visiting diplomatic delegations come bearing gifts and gift giving is returned in like fashion by the host country. It is an ages old human practice in diplomacy after all. Usually the gifts are valuable, representative of the products of the nations involved, or at least symbolic of the history of those nations.

For his part, PM Brown gave two symbolic gifts and one that expressed national pride. Brown came bearing a pen holder carved from the timbers of the sister ship of that which gave the wood to create the famous "Resolute Desk," the desk that has been in America's charge since 1880. He also gave Obama the framed commission for that famous ship, the HMS Resolute. His third gift was a seven-volume biography of one of England's greatest leaders, Winston Churchill.

So, what did President Obama give the British PM? 25 movies on DVD. Yeah, that's it. Brown gives a symbolic gift like the pen holder fashioned from a famous British warship and Obama responds by sending a staffer to WalMart to pick up a few quick movies.

And here they are:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...likes-Wizard-Oz.html

Couldn't help but notice 1776 didn't make the list.

 

While an excellent musical, saw the west coast version in SF before I shipped out to Nam, it would have been in bad form. 

direstraits posted:
budsfarm posted:
Jack Flash posted:

It is well understood that visiting diplomatic delegations come bearing gifts and gift giving is returned in like fashion by the host country. It is an ages old human practice in diplomacy after all. Usually the gifts are valuable, representative of the products of the nations involved, or at least symbolic of the history of those nations.

For his part, PM Brown gave two symbolic gifts and one that expressed national pride. Brown came bearing a pen holder carved from the timbers of the sister ship of that which gave the wood to create the famous "Resolute Desk," the desk that has been in America's charge since 1880. He also gave Obama the framed commission for that famous ship, the HMS Resolute. His third gift was a seven-volume biography of one of England's greatest leaders, Winston Churchill.

So, what did President Obama give the British PM? 25 movies on DVD. Yeah, that's it. Brown gives a symbolic gift like the pen holder fashioned from a famous British warship and Obama responds by sending a staffer to WalMart to pick up a few quick movies.

And here they are:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...likes-Wizard-Oz.html

Couldn't help but notice 1776 didn't make the list.

 

While an excellent musical, saw the west coast version in SF before I shipped out to Nam, it would have been in bad form. 

How does the left coast version of the musical compare to the movie?

 

 

budsfarm posted:
direstraits posted:
budsfarm posted:
Jack Flash posted:

It is well understood that visiting diplomatic delegations come bearing gifts and gift giving is returned in like fashion by the host country. It is an ages old human practice in diplomacy after all. Usually the gifts are valuable, representative of the products of the nations involved, or at least symbolic of the history of those nations.

For his part, PM Brown gave two symbolic gifts and one that expressed national pride. Brown came bearing a pen holder carved from the timbers of the sister ship of that which gave the wood to create the famous "Resolute Desk," the desk that has been in America's charge since 1880. He also gave Obama the framed commission for that famous ship, the HMS Resolute. His third gift was a seven-volume biography of one of England's greatest leaders, Winston Churchill.

So, what did President Obama give the British PM? 25 movies on DVD. Yeah, that's it. Brown gives a symbolic gift like the pen holder fashioned from a famous British warship and Obama responds by sending a staffer to WalMart to pick up a few quick movies.

And here they are:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...likes-Wizard-Oz.html

Couldn't help but notice 1776 didn't make the list.

 

While an excellent musical, saw the west coast version in SF before I shipped out to Nam, it would have been in bad form. 

How does the left coast version of the musical compare to the movie?

 

 

Remember, it was 1970 when I saw it.  I liked it.  I believe it was much like the movie.  I caught the movie Patton the same week.

giftedamateur posted:

No "The Patriot"?

That was my first choice.

But then I asked myself, would I invite the Brits I served with in Turkey to watch it with me?  Probably not.

Ignoring 1776 is like ignoring the elephant in the room, but if we're looking for common ground, why not The Longest Day?

The inclusion of GWTW was ironic since the South received most of it's imported arms from England via blockade runners like Rhett Butler.

"Frankly, m'dear, I don't give a dam*!" pretty much sums up how I feel about the Obama administration.  Brits probably feel the same way.

ER

budsfarm posted:
giftedamateur posted:

No "The Patriot"?

That was my first choice.

But then I asked myself, would I invite the Brits I served with in Turkey to watch it with me?  Probably not.

Ignoring 1776 is like ignoring the elephant in the room, but if we're looking for common ground, why not The Longest Day?

The inclusion of GWTW was ironic since the South received most of it's imported arms from England via blockade runners like Rhett Butler.

"Frankly, m'dear, I don't give a dam*!" pretty much sums up how I feel about the Obama administration.  Brits probably feel the same way.

ER

Pardon my faux pas.  I omitted one of Great Britain's great contributions to the cause ~ the Confederate raider, the CSS Alabama.

 

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