Oral Roberts has died

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Originally posted by Netracer41:

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Originally posted by ferrellj:

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Originally posted by Netracer41:
P.S. There is no such thing as free will. Just study B.F. Skinner and you will know this to be empirically true.

I totally disagree with you.

Then you haven't studied Dr. Skinner's work, and that is ok. He makes it empirically clear that we as a species do not in fact have free will. I'm not looking for a fight, give it read, you might gain a perspective. I respect you.

The de-bunking of Skinner by Noam Chomsky is a thing of literary and scientific beauty:

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19711230.htm

Also, Arthur Koestler, one of the most brilliant thinkers of the 20th Century. chewed up Skinner and spit him out in Koestler's masterpiece, The Ghost in the Machine. In picking apart Skinner's mechanistic aproach to analyzing human behavior and extrapolating human behavior from limited observatons on laboratory animals, Koestler observed Skinner's failure distinguish between the "rattiness of the rat and the humanity of man." The book is a treasure trove of the far-reaching brilliance of Koestler. His eating of Skinner's lunch is but one sall part.

The de-bunking of Skinner by Noam Chomsky is a thing of literary and scientific beauty:

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19711230.htm

Also, Arthur Koestler, one of the most brilliant thinkers of the 20th Century. chewed up Skinner and spit him out in Koestler's masterpiece, The Ghost in the Machine. In picking apart Skinner's mechanistic aproach to analyzing human behavior and extrapolating human behavior from limited observatons on laboratory animals, Koestler observed Skinner's failure distinguish between the "rattiness of the rat and the humanity of man." The book is a treasure trove of the far-reaching brilliance of Koestler. His eating of Skinner's lunch is but one sall part.[/QUOTE]

Criticism is just part of the scientific method. Neither position is proven right or wrong by these intellectual exchanges. Sorry, didn't mean to change the thread. Have a wonderful day Beternu and all my forum friends.

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
I'm not a religious scholar but where in the Bible does it say you get into heaven based on the life you live? I hope that's not the criteria for getting in. If so, we're all in big trouble.

So you think people that kill, wife abuser's, child molester's, etc. are getting in heaven?
I do believe that 90% of the people in church are going to hell. Won't they be in for a shock!!

Yes, there will be killers, child molestoers, and wife abusers in heaven. There will also be church goers in hell. Read your Bible, lifes works don't get you into heaven.

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Originally posted by Tenn on my mind:

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Originally posted by ferrellj:

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Originally posted by beternU:
My sincerest apologies for the mis-posting, but what I have said about Moore still goes. Same as to Roberts.

As to any use of the dictionary, Tenn, Let me assure you that I very seldom have recourse to that aid. You, like all too many vocabulary-compromised people on these forums, cavalierly assume that anyone whose vocabulary exceeds your meager one must stay glued to a dictionary to dredge up new words with which to attempt to impress others. The problem is one of your limitations, not of my capabilities.

There, do you feel better now Oh Holy One.

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism (ĭ-lē'tĭz'əm, ā-lē'-)
n.
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.


2. a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.

b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.

c. BeternU

e·lit'ist adj. & n.

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You are a much nicer person than me. I was going to tell BTU, to bite me.

As for no such thing as free will. What do you do, listen to the voices in your head, and follow the instructions?

I try to be nice. Would it shock you to find out that btu was a deacon and Sunday school teacher?

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Originally posted by Lawrence Black:
He was 91

I am sure Jesus is most likely receiving Oral as we speak.

May God bless his soul for the many people he has brought closer to God and got brining riches and glory to the Pentecostal church.

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Originally posted by Pastor Willy:

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Originally posted by Lawrence Black:
He was 91

I am sure Jesus is most likely receiving Oral as we speak.

May God blesn Richsards his soul for the many people he has brought closer to God and got brining riches and glorytchardo the Pentecostal church.

Oral was A FRAUD, A CHARLATAN, AND A FALSE PROPHET. That should be evcident to anyone who has followed his checkered career and the tawdry money-grubbing actions of his sleazy son Richard. All of this has been documented in books and online and anyone who wants the truth about these sorry people will have no trouble finding it. The hand that reaches out to lead Oral to his final destiny will likely have the smell of brimstone on it.

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Originally posted by Netracer41:
P.S. There is no such thing as free will. Just study B.F. Skinner and you will know this to be empirically true.

If that were so, behavior science wouldn't exist.