Out and Out Murder

giftedamateur posted:

Hard call.

No audio so we have no idea what set him off. I have seem people get that angry in stores and no one shot them. The clerk had called the police and the man was leaving, the shooter went out and made a big show of getting his tag number. Why? To show him who was boss? The man had not really done anything except throw some chips. Again, we don't know what provoked him. The shooter could have left at any time, instead he chose to go back into the store for further confrontation. Why shoot the man three times? Why not once, in the leg? I still call it murder.

No doubt bad decisions were made on both sides.  But, at the time of the shooting, he was backed into a corner with no means of escape and being activily attacked.  Regardless of what happened prior to that split second, most would be in fear for their lives at that moment in time.

giftedamateur posted:

The shooter should have faced some charge. For him to completely walk was wrong. Oh well, I'm sure the man's family will sue all involved.

What law did he break?  Yes, he'll probably be hammered in civil court, but I don't think he broke any laws leading up to the shooting. 

When you have a guy that has a gun pointed at his chest and he is still coming at you relentlessly, it's pretty much a you or him situation.

Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
giftedamateur posted:

The shooter should have faced some charge. For him to completely walk was wrong. Oh well, I'm sure the man's family will sue all involved.

What law did he break?  Yes, he'll probably be hammered in civil court, but I don't think he broke any laws leading up to the shooting. 

When you have a guy that has a gun pointed at his chest and he is still coming at you relentlessly, it's pretty much a you or him situation.

He baited, goaded, the guy, and as noted before, the cops had been called and the shooter could have left without interacting with him.

giftedamateur posted:
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
giftedamateur posted:

The shooter should have faced some charge. For him to completely walk was wrong. Oh well, I'm sure the man's family will sue all involved.

What law did he break?  Yes, he'll probably be hammered in civil court, but I don't think he broke any laws leading up to the shooting. 

When you have a guy that has a gun pointed at his chest and he is still coming at you relentlessly, it's pretty much a you or him situation.

He baited, goaded, the guy, and as noted before, the cops had been called and the shooter could have left without interacting with him.

But did he break a law?

Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
giftedamateur posted:
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
giftedamateur posted:

The shooter should have faced some charge. For him to completely walk was wrong. Oh well, I'm sure the man's family will sue all involved.

What law did he break?  Yes, he'll probably be hammered in civil court, but I don't think he broke any laws leading up to the shooting. 

When you have a guy that has a gun pointed at his chest and he is still coming at you relentlessly, it's pretty much a you or him situation.

He baited, goaded, the guy, and as noted before, the cops had been called and the shooter could have left without interacting with him.

But did he break a law?

I have no idea, you can't swear he dldn't.  Most likely he did, but that will be up to others more aquainted with all the laws that will look at all of it. 

giftedamateur posted:
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
giftedamateur posted:
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
giftedamateur posted:

The shooter should have faced some charge. For him to completely walk was wrong. Oh well, I'm sure the man's family will sue all involved.

What law did he break?  Yes, he'll probably be hammered in civil court, but I don't think he broke any laws leading up to the shooting. 

When you have a guy that has a gun pointed at his chest and he is still coming at you relentlessly, it's pretty much a you or him situation.

He baited, goaded, the guy, and as noted before, the cops had been called and the shooter could have left without interacting with him.

But did he break a law?

I have no idea, you can't swear he dldn't.  Most likely he did, but that will be up to others more aquainted with all the laws that will look at all of it. 

The DA has already said it was justified.  If he broke a law, then he would have been charged already. 

Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
giftedamateur posted:
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
giftedamateur posted:
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
giftedamateur posted:

The shooter should have faced some charge. For him to completely walk was wrong. Oh well, I'm sure the man's family will sue all involved.

What law did he break?  Yes, he'll probably be hammered in civil court, but I don't think he broke any laws leading up to the shooting. 

When you have a guy that has a gun pointed at his chest and he is still coming at you relentlessly, it's pretty much a you or him situation.

He baited, goaded, the guy, and as noted before, the cops had been called and the shooter could have left without interacting with him.

But did he break a law?

I have no idea, you can't swear he dldn't.  Most likely he did, but that will be up to others more aquainted with all the laws that will look at all of it. 

The DA has already said it was justified.  If he broke a law, then he  

 Remember, OJ walked too, and still lost in the lawsuit.

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