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Oh, but I so want her to run!

Please, please, please, please run! I can't wait for the comedy that comes from the 'gotcha' moments, like when people ask you tough questions like, "What magazines and newspapers do you read?"

And the debates! I can't wait for the debates! Bwahahahaha!

Then, after all that fun we get to watch Obama easily win a second term....he won't even have to put out effort for a campaign to win against her.

Let's see, you quit your job as governor to go make cash by selling books (and whatever else would make a buck), so I'm afraid you won't make enough cash as POTUS, dear. You'll just quit halfway through the job (due to the heat in the kitchen) and go make more money on books about your difficult two years in office.

Run, Sarah, run!

On a serious note, one has to wonder if family is really that important to her, considering she's still got three young children to take care of - including a demanding Downs child. There's absolutely no possibility to give her children, especially the Downs baby, the attention they need and juggle the demands of POTUS.

But, then again, her lack of attention to her kids is how Bristol got knocked up right under her nose. She obviously just uses her kids for political gain. Sad.


Palin resigned as governor because of about 25 accusations, proven false, that cost the state millions, her family hundreds of thousands, and tied up her time as governor and that of her staff. Leftists lied to destroy her. They know no bounds when in full cry.

As to debates, I suggest you view the Palin/Biden debate. She cleaned his clock. Of course, in Biden's case, that's not hard.


So, if she can't handle the accusations as governor, how is she going to handle the scrutiny as president?

And Biden took it easy on her because he didn't want to come off as sexist. It was a political strategy; Biden was smart enough not to turn off independent-leaning females.


Because of Alaskan law, unlike most other states, each accusation had to be investigated and defended. Public officials can't sue for false accusations. Again, it tied up state government and costs it millions. Alaska has a very small state government. You argument doesn't translate to the presidential level. Obviously, you don't understand the problem. And, are winging it with more attacks.


I'm not attacking, el. Like the saying goes: I call it like I see it....and apparently I'm not the only one.

El, I don't agree with you on much, but I do respect you. I know you're a very smart man, much smarter than I, so I ask you, honestly, do you really, really, think Palin's got what it takes to be president? And don't give me the Barack Obama didn't have experience either jazz, because two wrongs don't make a right.



I didn't bring up Obama's lack of experience, as it had nothing to do with the present thread. Obviously, the lack is now glaringly obvious, as he's had his head and other body parts handed to him by other world leaders during his last few outings.


You didn't answer the question.


If, you mean this question: "I'm not attacking, el. Like the saying goes: I call it like I see it....and apparently I'm not the only one"

My statement on Alaskan law answered it. I assume, as its different for Presidents, she would do what they all do -- answer the important accusations and ignore the rest. Such accusations would not tie up US government activities like they do in Alaska.


The question: Do you really think Palin's got what it takes to be president (not, do you think she'll get through the first term without quitting)?
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http://politicalticker.blogs.c...out-2012-bid/?hpt=T2

No! You don't say! We would have never guessed, Sarah Big Grin

Apparently someone didn't share with Sarah the memo about McCain losing the election. Now, she wasn't charming enough to win as VP yet she thinks she can win the presidency? And does she not realize that to run for president you must actually need some intelligence?


Buttercup, why do you, rocky, Ono, betternu, juan, and the rest of your liberal friends fear Sarah so much? Who is the most likely to beat Obama in 2012? Huckabee, Romney, Petraeus, Giuliani, Gingrich, Jindal, Crist, Graham, or Palin? I haven't heard any of you bashing any of these possible candidates except Sarah. As far as obama the next 2 years will determine his electibility. Two more years like the last 2 and there's no chance he beats anyone.
I'm not running for office, my character is not at issue. If you dont want your kids to be scrutinized dont put them on reality TV. Or Dancing with Some Recognizable People.

And, no, the Obama kids dont get any special treatment. But, have the Obama kids been the cover story of major magazines discussing their premarital sex habits and upcoming nuptials.
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The question: Do you really think Palin's got what it takes to be president (not, do you think she'll get through the first term without quitting)?



No. Why? Because of the politics of Washington itself. Plus, I see her more as an opportunist. More of a magnet, than one whom could handle what NEEDS to be done, and wrangle with Congress. Also, a little too far right for us moderates. Anyone who buys the "air head" view of her is either brainwashed / or in denial. She ain't dumb. Just look at the tons of money she's making.
Do I think she is as qualified as President Obama? Yes. That should be evident by now.
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No! You don't say! We would have never guessed, Sarah Big Grin

Apparently someone didn't share with Sarah the memo about McCain losing the election. Now, she wasn't charming enough to win as VP yet she thinks she can win the presidency? And does she not realize that to run for president you must actually need some intelligence?


Yea, like the current President who thinks there are 57 states. He might have been including Kenya as a state.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.co...barack-obama-wa.html
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I'm not running for office, my character is not at issue. If you dont want your kids to be scrutinized dont put them on reality TV. Or Dancing with Some Recognizable People.

And, no, the Obama kids dont get any special treatment. But, have the Obama kids been the cover story of major magazines discussing their premarital sex habits and upcoming nuptials.


Yes, the Obama kids DO get special treatment. Obama said 'off limits', so no press coverage.

Why was Bristol's pregnancy news, because it hurt Sarah during the campaign. Simple as that. It was fodder for the anti-religious crowd to yell 'hypocrite' at the top of their lungs. Also, having a Down's baby gave the crazies even more reason to yell, some even saying she should have had an abortion. Or that Bristol had two babies.

Tell you what Juan, you keep sticking with the perverted thought processes of the liberal wackos, I'll stick with being a conservative.
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Yes, the Obama kids DO get special treatment. Obama said 'off limits', so no press coverage.

Why was Bristol's pregnancy news, because it hurt Sarah during the campaign. Simple as that. It was fodder for the anti-religious crowd to yell 'hypocrite' at the top of their lungs. Also, having a Down's baby gave the crazies even more reason to yell, some even saying she should have had an abortion. Or that Bristol had two babies.

Tell you what Juan, you keep sticking with the perverted thought processes of the liberal wackos, I'll stick with being a conservative.


The OBama kids dont get any special treatment from me, I could not care less what the press does.

I am probably more conservative than you, but, you are so blinded by partisanship you are defending someone that can do no good for the conservative cause. Palin is a liability. Ask Joe Miller. Her endorsement cost him the election in her home state.

Seeing you conclude that those that disagree with you are perverted brings a smile to my cold heart.
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5. Obama as president with no business experience, no executive experience, no work experience, scares the crap out of me daily.


The saddest part for me is that our politics have become about celebrity, not about quality. I didn't support Barack Obama because of his inexperience, and I can't support Sarah Palin for the same reason. Due to the enormous challenges the presidency now brings, we need someone with experience, intelligence, credentials, etc. - not a pretty smile or some other crazy reason to vote for someone.
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Seeing you conclude that those that disagree with you are perverted brings a smile to my cold heart.

I don't think democrats are perverted any more than any other group.. Liberals who make fun of a teenage girl getting pregnant are perverted. And I am glad you admit your have a cold heart. Par for the course.
I agree jelb that politics has become a poularity contest. I'm not sure experience is the most important quality for our president. If you take a look at some of our better presidents they weren't all career politicians with years of executive experience. Intelligence is vastly overrated too, or maybe I should say education. Education and intellingence are 2 totally different things. I'm guessing that since you think Palin has a pretty smile she would not make a good president.
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I agree jelb that politics has become a poularity contest. I'm not sure experience is the most important quality for our president. If you take a look at some of our better presidents they weren't all career politicians with years of executive experience. Intelligence is vastly overrated too, or maybe I should say education. Education and intellingence are 2 totally different things. I'm guessing that since you think Palin has a pretty smile she would not make a good president.


I guess that an education at the best elite preppy schools and colleges isn't what it used to be. Or is it that the "57 states" quote is easily explained by prompter Alzheimer's and "corpseman" is just a Freudian slip of a necrophiliac. I would rather have the Presidents who were products of 18'th and 19'th Century homeschooling and one room public schools over the present ivy-league product if Obama is an example of an elite education. If I were choosing between Palin and Obama, I would not choose the evil of lessers and so my vote would be for Palin. While there are better choices than Palin, she has shown the ability to learn and adapt which is something Obama has yet to show.
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I agree jelb that politics has become a poularity contest. I'm not sure experience is the most important quality for our president. If you take a look at some of our better presidents they weren't all career politicians with years of executive experience. Intelligence is vastly overrated too, or maybe I should say education. Education and intellingence are 2 totally different things. I'm guessing that since you think Palin has a pretty smile she would not make a good president.




Learn what?

Adapt to what?

Palin proposed, and help institute a windfall profits tax on oil drilling in Alaska. That is one of the reasons that real conservatives in Alaska dont like her.
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And, no, the Obama kids dont get any special treatment. But, have the Obama kids been the cover story of major magazines discussing their premarital sex habits and upcoming nuptials.



I think everyone feels sorry for his kids, that might be why the lack of jokes. As far as their sex lives, they're small children, attacking them on that level is something the Dems would do if their father was a Republican.
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. If I were choosing between Palin and Obama, I would not choose the evil of lessers and so my vote would be for Palin. While there are better choices than Palin, she has shown the ability to learn and adapt which is something Obama has yet to show.

That sums it up. I would not want Palin to be the candidate, but I'll vote for her before I would ever give the community organizer another 4 years to screw up.
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. If I were choosing between Palin and Obama, I would not choose the evil of lessers and so my vote would be for Palin. While there are better choices than Palin, she has shown the ability to learn and adapt which is something Obama has yet to show.

That sums it up. I would not want Palin to be the candidate, but I'll vote for her before I would ever give the community organizer another 4 years to screw up.



Isnt that how we got BushII? Which resulted in the Dem mandate in 2006 and 2008. Everything old is new is the same. If you keep voting in the same manner, for the same type of lame RINOs and you're expecting different results...
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Originally posted by Buttercup:
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No! You don't say! We would have never guessed, Sarah Big Grin

Apparently someone didn't share with Sarah the memo about McCain losing the election. Now, she wasn't charming enough to win as VP yet she thinks she can win the presidency? And does she not realize that to run for president you must actually need some intelligence?


Buttercup, why do you, rocky, Ono, betternu, juan, and the rest of your liberal friends fear Sarah so much? Who is the most likely to beat Obama in 2012? Huckabee, Romney, Petraeus, Giuliani, Gingrich, Jindal, Crist, Graham, or Palin? I haven't heard any of you bashing any of these possible candidates except Sarah. As far as obama the next 2 years will determine his electibility. Two more years like the last 2 and there's no chance he beats anyone.


I don't fear her as a person; I fear her as my president. If I worked next to her every day, I'd find her annoying but would have a friendly, professional relationship with her, I assume. She would be no threat to my life and country in that position, however.

She just doesn't have what it takes to be president. She not only doesn't inspire confidence in me, she makes the political process a joke.

Bottom line: I've got to trust the captain of the ship. If there's a fire on the ship, or it hits an iceberg Big Grin, or is taken over by pirates, I want the kind of captain who can keep me calm because he knows how to handle the situation; I want to know he'll get me back home, unharmed.

As for your list, there are things I like about both Giuliani and Romney. And I would assume if Donald Trump runs, he'll run as a Republican or an Independent. If he does run, I'll be following him very closely. But none of those people are on television 24/7. I guess that's why they don't get bashed like Palin.
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No one fears Palin. Most of America is laughing at her, not with her.

Only from a liberal view. If you didn't fear her, you would ignore her.


We can't ignore her! That's the problem. If she's within range of a television camera switched to "on", she's on it...talking...with that voice...on almost every channel. Oy!

Reminds me of that song...and I ran, I ran so far away...I couldn't get away.
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The question: Do you really think Palin's got what it takes to be president (not, do you think she'll get through the first term without quitting)?



No. Why? Because of the politics of Washington itself. Plus, I see her more as an opportunist. More of a magnet, than one whom could handle what NEEDS to be done, and wrangle with Congress. Also, a little too far right for us moderates. Anyone who buys the "air head" view of her is either brainwashed / or in denial. She ain't dumb. Just look at the tons of money she's making.
Do I think she is as qualified as President Obama? Yes. That should be evident by now.


Palin's only real strength is her charisma, which appeals to the Tea Party gang and those on the extreme right. She's been elevated to rock star status by the Tea Party folks and all that love has gone to her head. I'm surprised there hasn't yet been a push to canonize her, but I digress.

Anyway, that adoration has given her the confidence to run for president. But she's overestimating her value because charisma is not the same as leadership ability.

Another problem, besides her lack of knowledge regarding foreign affairs and domestic policy, is that she's in it for herself. I believe she cares about this country and has her own vision for it, but I think she cares more about going down in the history books as the first female POTUS...and about media coverage 24/7.

You say she's not dumb. I will give you that she's an excellent salesperson, since she's made a ton of money from her book sales after quitting her job as governor. But you don't have to be smart to be in sales, just very manipulative. I'm sure she has knowledge about many things, just not the things that matter to me.

As an aside, Donald Trump is throwing out hints that he'll run too. I can't decide whose ego is bigger between the two of them and it will be fun to watch it play out before the primaries.
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Oh, but I so want her to run!

Please, please, please, please run! I can't wait for the comedy that comes from the 'gotcha' moments, like when people ask you tough questions like, "What magazines and newspapers do you read?"

And the debates! I can't wait for the debates! Bwahahahaha!

Then, after all that fun we get to watch Obama easily win a second term....he won't even have to put out effort for a campaign to win against her.

Let's see, you quit your job as governor to go make cash by selling books (and whatever else would make a buck), so I'm afraid you won't make enough cash as POTUS, dear. You'll just quit halfway through the job (due to the heat in the kitchen) and go make more money on books about your difficult two years in office.

Run, Sarah, run!

On a serious note, one has to wonder if family is really that important to her, considering she's still got three young children to take care of - including a demanding Downs child. There's absolutely no possibility to give her children, especially the Downs baby, the attention they need and juggle the demands of POTUS.

But, then again, her lack of attention to her kids is how Bristol got knocked up right under her nose. She obviously just uses her kids for political gain. Sad.


Palin resigned as governor because of about 25 accusations, proven false, that cost the state millions, her family hundreds of thousands, and tied up her time as governor and that of her staff. Leftists lied to destroy her. They know no bounds when in full cry.

As to debates, I suggest you view the Palin/Biden debate. She cleaned his clock. Of course, in Biden's case, that's not hard.


So, if she can't handle the accusations as governor, how is she going to handle the scrutiny as president?

And Biden took it easy on her because he didn't want to come off as sexist. It was a political strategy; Biden was smart enough not to turn off independent-leaning females.


Because of Alaskan law, unlike most other states, each accusation had to be investigated and defended. Public officials can't sue for false accusations. Again, it tied up state government and costs it millions. Alaska has a very small state government. You argument doesn't translate to the presidential level. Obviously, you don't understand the problem. And, are winging it with more attacks.


I'm not attacking, el. Like the saying goes: I call it like I see it....and apparently I'm not the only one.

El, I don't agree with you on much, but I do respect you. I know you're a very smart man, much smarter than I, so I ask you, honestly, do you really, really, think Palin's got what it takes to be president? And don't give me the Barack Obama didn't have experience either jazz, because two wrongs don't make a right.



I didn't bring up Obama's lack of experience, as it had nothing to do with the present thread. Obviously, the lack is now glaringly obvious, as he's had his head and other body parts handed to him by other world leaders during his last few outings.


You didn't answer the question.


If, you mean this question: "I'm not attacking, el. Like the saying goes: I call it like I see it....and apparently I'm not the only one"

My statement on Alaskan law answered it. I assume, as its different for Presidents, she would do what they all do -- answer the important accusations and ignore the rest. Such accusations would not tie up US government activities like they do in Alaska.


The question: Do you really think Palin's got what it takes to be president (not, do you think she'll get through the first term without quitting)?


In truth, I believe the press has damaged her brand too much for the present. She should raise funds for conservative. And, from her Alaskan Fortress of Solitude sent twitters that drive the left over the edge. I would prefer she hold an appointed position for a Republican president in 2013. I would suggest Secretary of Energy, until that department is phased our. Then, Secretary of the Interior. Like Teddy Roosevelt, she is a devotee of the vigorous outdoor life. That comment should steam Glenn Beck a bit.

Then, she should run for president in the future.
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Let me pull a CAGE/JOBE: This is twice I am calling you out Elintorventor, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF RUSH LIMBAUGH'S REMARKS ABOUT CHELSEA CLINTON???????????????????


If Rush referred to Chelsea as a dog at 13, he shouldn't have. I have no time to listen to his radio show as I have a job. I do read his blog a couple of times a week. Do you get good reception form your mother's basement?
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Let me pull a CAGE/JOBE: This is twice I am calling you out Elintorventor, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF RUSH LIMBAUGH'S REMARKS ABOUT CHELSEA CLINTON???????????????????


If Rush referred to Chelsea as a dog at 13, he shouldn't have. I have no time to listen to his radio show as I have a job. I do read his blog a couple of times a week. Do you get good reception form your mother's basement?


Well once again you are making progress by admitting you read Rush Limbaugh a couple of times a week. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery, start working on restoring sanity.

My mother doesn't have a basement and I don't live with her but I hope you get good reception in the condo you live in ALONE and bitter.
Does anyone have any positives they can share regarding a democrat or republican from the past ten years or so? I really can't think of anything. We're overrun with illegal aliens, ten percent unemployment, wars our politicans don't have the guts to win, financial collaspe, and etc. All of which have been brought about by by democrats and republicans however; all we seem to be concerned with is Sarah is a bad momma or Obama is a muslim and don't have a birth certificate. It's like debating which end of a turd is cleaner. Unless we get level headed responsible people running for office regardless of party, our country will continue to decline.I really feel bad for the future of our young people because of the world we've created for them.
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Let me pull a CAGE/JOBE: This is twice I am calling you out Elintorventor, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF RUSH LIMBAUGH'S REMARKS ABOUT CHELSEA CLINTON???????????????????


If Rush referred to Chelsea as a dog at 13, he shouldn't have. I have no time to listen to his radio show as I have a job. I do read his blog a couple of times a week. Do you get good reception form your mother's basement?


Well once again you are making progress by admitting you read Rush Limbaugh a couple of times a week. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery, start working on restoring sanity.

My mother doesn't have a basement and I don't live with her but I hope you get good reception in the condo you live in ALONE and bitter.


While, I arrived alone in Huntsville 17 months ago, why do you thing I'm still alone! I suspect you're transferring your problems on me. A good shrink can cure that.

I'm having too much fun to be bitter -- good restaurants, plenty of entertainment, many places to go! And, without the monstrous traffic of DC.

Sorry, you mother doesn't have a basement. How bad is it -- attic, room over the garage? Or, horrors, your still living in the room you grew up in. How sad!

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