the "gay lobby" in the upper ranks of the VATICAN:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/a...m_term=Cheat%20Sheet
The priestly control freaks in the Vatican can't pin this guy down. He continues to speak off the cuff and now he is apparently getting ready to kick some gay butt within the Curia, the permanent cadre of scheming weasels who would like to, but cannot, control this new sheriff in town.
Go get'em, Francis! You da man!!
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"Go get'em, Francis! You da man"!! Seriously? Who's going after all the other gay people in churches? Who's going to "go get'em" in your denomination??
Somehow Jorge sounds more the man than Francis.
Pope Franky is shaking them up. They should not have chosen a Jesuit Pope.
Not only is he smarter than most Bishops, but he's braver, too. He won't last long. The Illuminati/Knights Templar/Masons/Girls Scouts/Rotary Club/Bildeburger/Chicago White Sox/Knights of Columbus cabal, and their loosely-affiliated hit squad Vituscan Missionaries will surely kidnap him and secret him into a salt cave in deepest Malta or San Bernardino, California, for the duration. Or until he regains his senses.
DF
Pope Franky is shaking them up. They should not have chosen a Jesuit Pope.
Not only is he smarter than most Bishops, but he's braver, too. He won't last long. The Illuminati/Knights Templar/Masons/Girls Scouts/Rotary Club/Bildeburger/Chicago White Sox/Knights of Columbus cabal, and their loosely-affiliated hit squad Vituscan Missionaries will surely kidnap him and secret him into a salt cave in deepest Malta or San Bernardino, California, for the duration. Or until he regains his senses.
DF
DEEP that was entertaining. you may have a few human traits after-all.
For those who did not read the attachment, here is the part that explains the lame efforts of the Vatican to downplay what Pope Francis said:
"On Wednesday the Vatican was quick to distance itself from the pope’s remarks. Father Federico Lombardi, chief spokesman for the pope, said that because the comments were made in a private audience, the Vatican had no official statement to give. The event was not recorded, and the members of the Congregation for Latin American and Caribbean Religious, to whom the pope made the comments, reportedly told reporters what the pope said without the his permission to release the contents of his address. The congregation has since issued a statement regretting that the contents of the pope’s message made it to the press and distancing itself from quoting the pope. “It is clear that based on this one cannot attribute singular expressions to the Holy Father with certainty, but just a general sense,” according to the statement."
The control freaks in the Curia are have been turned into nervous jelly by the actions of this let-it-all-hang-out pope. It will be interesting indeed to see how this plays out.
What about the "gay lobby" in the upper ranks of the democratic party? Don't you want someone to "go get'em"?
What about the "gay lobby" in the upper ranks of the democratic party? Don't you want someone to "go get'em"?
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What about getting off the "So's yer old man" bandwagon to which you have so predictably and boringly attached yourself?
How about getting off the "so's yer old man" retort? You always run to that when you can't even get the bat off your shoulder, and it's as worn out as the race card. Can't you answer my question? What about the "gay lobby" in the upper ranks of the democratic party? Don't you want someone go "go get'em"? Seems very odd that you're not a catholic but so worried about what goes on in their church, yet as a democrat you don't seem worried about the same things happening in your own party.
How about getting off the "so's yer old man" retort? You always run to that when you can't even get the bat off your shoulder, and it's as worn out as the race card. Can't you answer my question? What about the "gay lobby" in the upper ranks of the democratic party? Don't you want someone go "go get'em"? Seems very odd that you're not a catholic but so worried about what goes on in their church, yet as a democrat you don't seem worried about the same things happening in your own party.
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If the "'gay lobby' in the upper ranks of the democratic party" is involved in the same kind of pedophilia, pederasty and related perversions as is the gay element in the Catholic priesthood, then they should be prosecuted appropriately. When you say that the "same things" are happening in the Democratic Party, then you presumably have some information that confirms your assertion. Will you put it up on this forum or will you slink away in disgrace, having been exposed as an extremist in the "apples and oranges" category of misinformation?
How about getting off the "so's yer old man" retort? You always run to that when you can't even get the bat off your shoulder, and it's as worn out as the race card. Can't you answer my question? What about the "gay lobby" in the upper ranks of the democratic party? Don't you want someone go "go get'em"? Seems very odd that you're not a catholic but so worried about what goes on in their church, yet as a democrat you don't seem worried about the same things happening in your own party.
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Every time I think Best can't get anymore ridiculous, she proves me wrong.
How about getting off the "so's yer old man" retort? You always run to that when you can't even get the bat off your shoulder, and it's as worn out as the race card. Can't you answer my question? What about the "gay lobby" in the upper ranks of the democratic party? Don't you want someone go "go get'em"? Seems very odd that you're not a catholic but so worried about what goes on in their church, yet as a democrat you don't seem worried about the same things happening in your own party.
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Every time I think Best can't get anymore ridiculous, she proves me wrong.
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she wasn't this "nutty" when she first came here... either bill, or the constant reinforcement from the other wingnuts, has pushed her over the edge.
Pope Franky is shaking them up. They should not have chosen a Jesuit Pope.
Not only is he smarter than most Bishops, but he's braver, too. He won't last long. The Illuminati/Knights Templar/Masons/Girls Scouts/Rotary Club/Bildeburger/Chicago White Sox/Knights of Columbus cabal, and their loosely-affiliated hit squad Vituscan Missionaries will surely kidnap him and secret him into a salt cave in deepest Malta or San Bernardino, California, for the duration. Or until he regains his senses.
DF
It's a cabal! It's a cabal! (I'm just poking fun at the use of "cabal". It's a fav word of u know who. 
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She went by Jennifer when she was cool. ahh those were the days. We used to PM a lot then, she would spill her guts and I would listen. Then she changed her name and went all crazy. I still have those mental photographs somewhere.
I'm rather curious about this word "lobby." Obviously in Alabama, it brings to mind ALFA and the AEA. Just what is this lobby lobbying for? A blind eye? Accepting homosexuality? What?
I'm rather curious about this word "lobby." Obviously in Alabama, it brings to mind ALFA and the AEA. Just what is this lobby lobbying for? A blind eye? Accepting homosexuality? What?
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Info on this "lobby." By whatever name it is called, it seems to be a den of depravity:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/a...ests-in-panties.html
<<<Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedict XVI is hanging up his camauro, one has taken on a life of its own. According to several well-placed vaticanisti—or Vatican experts—in Rome, Benedict is resigning after being handed a secret red-covered dossier that included details about a network of gay priests who work inside the Vatican, but who play in secular Rome. The priests, it seems, are allegedly being blackmailed by a network of male prostitutes who worked at a sauna in Rome’s Quarto Miglio district, a health spa in the city center, and a private residence once entrusted to a prominent archbishop. The evidence reportedly includes compromising photos and videos of the prelates—sometimes caught on film in drag, and, in some cases, caught “in the act.”>>>
Francis apparently wants to clean out these filthy perverts.
If the "'gay lobby' in the upper ranks of the democratic party" is involved in the same kind of pedophilia, pederasty and related perversions as is the gay element in the Catholic priesthood, then they should be prosecuted appropriately. When you say that the "same things" are happening in the Democratic Party, then you presumably have some information that confirms your assertion. Will you put it up on this forum or will you slink away in disgrace, having been exposed as an extremist in the "apples and oranges" category of misinformation?
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I have no reason to "slink away in disgrace". You are always blubbering about the catholic church, then posting mess like that picture of piglosi. She's a catholic btw, as are all the kennedys, but you knew that. You rant and rave about the mormons, but old harry reid is a mormon. You knew that too. You think you're so smart yet you post nonsense about homosexuals being pedophiles, in your mind all of them, except the ones in the democratic party that is. Since I never made the statement that the homosexual "lobby" in your party are pedophiles why I should post "proof"? YOU are the one making those kind of statements. How about you post proof that all the homosexuals in the church are pedophiles, and all the homosexuals in the democratic party aren't? Because if one uses your twisted way of thinking all homosexuals are pedophiles. Can you post proof that the ones in the democratic party aren't? So again, don't you want someone to "go get'em"?
If the "'gay lobby' in the upper ranks of the democratic party" is involved in the same kind of pedophilia, pederasty and related perversions as is the gay element in the Catholic priesthood, then they should be prosecuted appropriately. When you say that the "same things" are happening in the Democratic Party, then you presumably have some information that confirms your assertion. Will you put it up on this forum or will you slink away in disgrace, having been exposed as an extremist in the "apples and oranges" category of misinformation?
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I have no reason to "slink away in disgrace". You are always blubbering about the catholic church, then posting mess like that picture of piglosi. She's a catholic btw, as are all the kennedys, but you knew that. You rant and rave about the mormons, but old harry reid is a mormon. You knew that too. You think you're so smart yet you post nonsense about homosexuals being pedophiles, in your mind all of them, except the ones in the democratic party that is. Since I never made the statement that the homosexual "lobby" in your party are pedophiles why I should post "proof"? YOU are the one making those kind of statements. How about you post proof that all the homosexuals in the church are pedophiles, and all the homosexuals in the democratic party aren't? Because if one uses your twisted way of thinking all homosexuals are pedophiles. Can you post proof that the ones in the democratic party aren't? So again, don't you want someone to "go get'em"?
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You miss the point entirely and in all likelihood intentionally.
The simple facts in the matter are that the illicit and disgusting sexual activity on the part of the large number of non-celibate Catholic priests has very predominantly involved pedophilia. There is no denying this. The church itself has recognized that the sexual abuse of children and young adolescents by priests is a widespread practice in the Catholic Church. I simply challenged what you asserted, namely that the activities of the "'gay lobby' in the upper ranks of the democratic party" are similar ("same things") to those of the predatory Catholic priests. Your irrelevant response does no more that to smokescreen the issue. Thus, I will repeat my challenge to you and give you another opportunity to answer the actual question. :
You say, "...I never made the statement that the homosexual "lobby" in your party are pedophiles." Then what then do you mean when you say that the "same things" are happening in the Democratic Party?
Please try to answer the actual question this time. Try not to either slink away or smokescreen the matter. Just give a straight answer if you are capable of such. Take particular care to tell us what you mean by "same things". If there is some kind of systemic, institutionalized pedophilia in that "gay lobby" in the Democratic Party, and if you have information concerning that, I will be happy to join you and others in insisting that it be thoroughly investigated and that those who are involved are brought to justice.
If by "same things" you mean something other than the apparent and obvious meaning of that term, please explain that.
I don't "slink away" from anything tender. You're using the bill gray method of posting. You can't answer a question, or give proof of your claim, so you accuse the one asking of not making themselves clear. Then you run and make another thread on which you'll do the same thing. Pitiful.
FLORIDA, June 12, 2013 — There is a new scandal brewing, and this one might have more teeth than any Obama Administration-related one before it.
According to a New York Post report yesterday, the State Department has engaged in a wide-ranging coverup regarding U.S. Ambassador to Belgium Howard Gutman. New allegations say he routinely solicited sex from not only prostitutes, but also children.
A Bureau of Diplomatic Security agent assigned to monitor him reportedly made the grisly discovery.
A leaked government memo says “(t)he agent began his investigation and had determined that the ambassador routinely ditched his protective security detail in order to solicit sexual favors from both prostitutes and minor children.”
It also notes that Gutman’s “protective detail and the embassy’s surveillance detection team” knew a great deal about his actions.
Eric Boswell, the Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security, was allegedly very surprised at not only news of the Ambassador’s misconduct, but also about cases of impropriety involving others. Nonetheless, he is accused of trying to prevent all of this from coming to light.
Notes from a State Department meeting in December of last year reveal that Boswell was a strong advocate for keeping the alleged misdeeds out of an official report. When the final report was eventually filed during mid-March, it made no mention of those deeds.
Aurelia Fedenisn, a former veteran investigator for the State Department, brought this story to media attention. Her lawyer said that she has been threatened with criminal penalties.
Read more: http://communities.washingtont...child/#ixzz2WIPtfkUA
Hillary Clinton claims total ignorance of rampant sex crimes, including children, and cover-ups occurring on her watch, alleged in an Inspector General’s memo.
I don't "slink away" from anything tender. You're using the bill gray method of posting. You can't answer a question, or give proof of your claim, so you accuse the one asking of not making themselves clear. Then you run and make another thread on which you'll do the same thing. Pitiful.
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I will leave the "proof" to whatever internal inquiries the Pope engages as he investigates these apparently credible claims. I am pleased to see that he apparently does not intend to sweep these allegations under the rug as has been the routine practice of so many Catholic bishops and Cardinals who have taken little or no action against known pedophiles in their jurisdictions, preferring to transfer many of them to new jobs where they can begin to collect new victims.
Good idea, leave it to the catholics to take care of and then you can use your energy cleaning up your party, and your church.
FLORIDA, June 12, 2013 — There is a new scandal brewing, and this one might have more teeth than any Obama Administration-related one before it.
According to a New York Post report yesterday, the State Department has engaged in a wide-ranging coverup regarding U.S. Ambassador to Belgium Howard Gutman. New allegations say he routinely solicited sex from not only prostitutes, but also children.
A Bureau of Diplomatic Security agent assigned to monitor him reportedly made the grisly discovery.
A leaked government memo says “(t)he agent began his investigation and had determined that the ambassador routinely ditched his protective security detail in order to solicit sexual favors from both prostitutes and minor children.”
It also notes that Gutman’s “protective detail and the embassy’s surveillance detection team” knew a great deal about his actions.
Eric Boswell, the Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security, was allegedly very surprised at not only news of the Ambassador’s misconduct, but also about cases of impropriety involving others. Nonetheless, he is accused of trying to prevent all of this from coming to light.
Notes from a State Department meeting in December of last year reveal that Boswell was a strong advocate for keeping the alleged misdeeds out of an official report. When the final report was eventually filed during mid-March, it made no mention of those deeds.
Aurelia Fedenisn, a former veteran investigator for the State Department, brought this story to media attention. Her lawyer said that she has been threatened with criminal penalties.
Read more: http://communities.washingtont...child/#ixzz2WIPtfkUA
Hillary Clinton claims total ignorance of rampant sex crimes, including children, and cover-ups occurring on her watch, alleged in an Inspector General’s memo.
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Well, bully for you. You have found ONE case of alleged sexual misconduct, possibly involving juveniles, in the administration's State Department and have posted it with the apparent intent of showing that the Obama administration is guilty of the "same things" as the Catholic Church has done.
Got news for you--that will not compute. One apparently isolated incident is not anything like a proven decades-old (and likely centuries-old) pattern of systematic and heinous child sexual abuse and cover-up that has scandalized the Catholic priesthood. Not even close, Best. No "same things" there.
You have not yet answered my challenge. Now back up and tell us what you meant by "same things". Does "same things", to you, mean that that there has indeed been, within the Democratic Party, a sustained ingrained culture that has for many years produced systemic sexual abuse of children such as has been proven to have existed within the Catholic Church in the U.S., in Canada, in Ireland, and elsewhere? Or does "same things" mean something else.
Your ANSWER, please--no more irrelevancies; no more apples and oranges; just put up a real answer!
