Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8
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Hey I wonder what would happen is a few million of us refused to pay taxes? They can't put us all in jail!
We'd all be crowded into the soon-to-be-vacated Gitmo facility.
quote:Originally posted by ferrellj:
Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8
And why are you reluctant to post the entirety of that verse from Psalm 109? It is a wish for the President to die, isn't it? For the information of readers here, I am providing the text of that verse below:
Psalm 109:9:
"Let his chidren be fatherless and his wife a widow."
Now, ferrellj, you and others on these forums have questioned my Christianity, but when you post stuff like this, it would seem to disqualify you from any claim to judge others.
Christians who contemplate and respect their obligation to civil authority look not to imprecatory Psalms, but rather to instructions given by the Apostle Paul in I Tim 2:1-3:
I Tim 2:1-3: I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Your call ferrellj--you can pray, and encourage others to pray, for the DEATH of the President, or you can pray the kind of prayer that Paul enjoined upon Christians. Seems you have already chosen the former course. You might wish to reconsider, especially if you intend to stay on these forums casting doubt upon the Christian character of those with whom you disagree.
I ask for no apology, but you certainly owe one to the President.
This same line was used for Bush. People did pray for his death. Even put it on bumper stickers.
How's that Christian attitude for you bitter?
How's that Christian attitude for you bitter?
quote:Originally posted by baracus:
This same line was used for Bush. People did pray for his death. Even put it on bumper stickers.
How's that Christian attitude for you bitter?
More "So's yer old man" rejoinder from you. Typical and predictable. One difference here though: ferrellj often admonishes me to behave in a Christian manner. Now she comes on here urging one and all to pray for the death of the President. The obvious commodity displayed in that is H Y P O C R I S Y, something she has accused me of. Who's the hypocrite now?
quote:Originally posted by ferrellj:
Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8
WHOA! Do you realize who is standing in line for his job? Then his job, and so on. Oh yes it could worse. With the HealthScare bill going in in 2013 Obama stands a good chance of reelection. Too late for the blind rats to see what they did to our Country. GOD BLESS AMERICA
quote:Originally posted by beternU:quote:Originally posted by baracus:
This same line was used for Bush. People did pray for his death. Even put it on bumper stickers.
How's that Christian attitude for you bitter?
More "So's yer old man" rejoinder from you. Typical and predictable. One difference here though: ferrellj often admonishes me to behave in a Christian manner. Now she comes on here urging one and all to pray for the death of the President. The obvious commodity displayed in that is H Y P O C R I S Y, something she has accused me of. Who's the hypocrite now?
Well excuse me for pointing out the obvious, hypocrite.
Its OK to pray for Bush's death, but not Obama's. So, old man, you criticize someone for doing the same thing you do. How predictable.
quote:quote:
Originally posted by baracus:
This same line was used for Bush. People did pray for his death. Even put it on bumper stickers.
How's that Christian attitude for you bitter?
More "So's yer old man" rejoinder from you. Typical and predictable. One difference here though: ferrellj often admonishes me to behave in a Christian manner. Now she comes on here urging one and all to pray for the death of the President. The obvious commodity displayed in that is H Y P O C R I S Y, something she has accused me of. Who's the hypocrite now?
Would it be permissible to pray for Obama to grow a brain and testicles? But wouldn't that mean that he would have to join Parker Griffith and leave the party of the donkey?
Throw out the bait, set the hook, and reel them in. You fell for it bitter. Obviously to everyone but you it was a joke. I would never pray for anyones death, even Obama's. I do pray for our country. I've never questioned your or anyones Christianity, that is between you and God. I do believe the Bible says something to the fact that you will know a person by the fruits they bear. I along with a lot of other posters on here have questioned if your fruits resemble what we would expect from a deacon and Sunday school teacher.
All that work (baiting and reeling in) and I have to throw it back, it was only a sucker.
The only thing I'm guily of is using the religion forum for a joke, I will apologize for that. But, Christians can have fun too.
All that work (baiting and reeling in) and I have to throw it back, it was only a sucker.
The only thing I'm guily of is using the religion forum for a joke, I will apologize for that. But, Christians can have fun too.
beternu - look again. ferrellj said PSALM 109:8 - which means Psalm 109 verse 8 (and only verse 8).
That verse reads:
8 May his days be few;
may another take his place of leadership.
ferrellj was not quoting the entire psalm, just the one verse.
That verse reads:
8 May his days be few;
may another take his place of leadership.
ferrellj was not quoting the entire psalm, just the one verse.
quote:Would it be permissible to pray for Obama to grow a brain and testicles? But wouldn't that mean that he would have to join Parker Griffith and leave the party of the donkey?
Jesus was a democrat, obviously. I mean, did you ever hear of him riding an elephant??
So Jesus was for abortion and gay rights?
I never knew that!
I never knew that!
quote:Jesus was a democrat, obviously. I mean, did you ever hear of him riding an elephant?? Roll Eyes
Jesus may not have wanted to pay the Roman fine for cleaning squished disciples off the road.
quote:Originally posted by beternU:
And why are you reluctant to post the entirety of that verse from Psalm 109? It is a wish for the President to die, isn't it? For the information of readers here, I am providing the text of that verse below:
Psalm 109:9:
"Let his chidren be fatherless and his wife a widow."
Preach it brother! This is what the bible teaches and is what we shall abide by. Thank you for helping spread the good news that our president shall be replaced very soon. The Lord has commanded it!
quote:Originally posted by Harbinger of TRUTH:
Preach it brother! This is what the bible teaches and is what we shall abide by. Thank you for helping spread the good news that our president shall be replaced very soon. The Lord has commanded it!
IMHO......That boy ain't right....
quote:Originally posted by baracus:quote:Originally posted by beternU:quote:Originally posted by baracus:
This same line was used for Bush. People did pray for his death. Even put it on bumper stickers.
How's that Christian attitude for you bitter?
More "So's yer old man" rejoinder from you. Typical and predictable. One difference here though: ferrellj often admonishes me to behave in a Christian manner. Now she comes on here urging one and all to pray for the death of the President. The obvious commodity displayed in that is H Y P O C R I S Y, something she has accused me of. Who's the hypocrite now?
Well excuse me for pointing out the obvious, hypocrite.
Its OK to pray for Bush's death, but not Obama's. So, old man, you criticize someone for doing the same thing you do. How predictable.
I have never prayed for Bush's death or urged anyone else to do that. Do you really believe you can get away with making utterly incorrect statements about my behavior and then proceeding from such lies to brand me a hypocrite? If so, you are either a deranged nutcake or a malicious scumbag, maybe both!
quote:Originally posted by ferrellj:
Throw out the bait, set the hook, and reel them in. You fell for it bitter. Obviously to everyone but you it was a joke. I would never pray for anyones death, even Obama's. I do pray for our country. I've never questioned your or anyones Christianity, that is between you and God. I do believe the Bible says something to the fact that you will know a person by the fruits they bear. I along with a lot of other posters on here have questioned if your fruits resemble what we would expect from a deacon and Sunday school teacher.
All that work (baiting and reeling in) and I have to throw it back, it was only a sucker.
The only thing I'm guily of is using the religion forum for a joke, I will apologize for that. But, Christians can have fun too.
You have convinced me! You are obviously a master baiter!
BNU have you started ringing the New Year in early? 
Go ahead and pray but I don't think the brother really needs it. Dudes he's the president. The cat can do what he wants. You want to pray. Pray for me. I would be a righteous president. first order of business......legalize weed.
quote:Originally posted by Bamacat:
Go ahead and pray but I don't think the brother really needs it. Dudes he's the president. The cat can do what he wants. You want to pray. Pray for me. I would be a righteous president. first order of business......legalize weed.
Oh yeah..THAT'S what we need...a nation of braindead stoners.
Bad pothead. No Twinkie.
quote:Originally posted by Road Puppy:quote:Originally posted by Bamacat:
Go ahead and pray but I don't think the brother really needs it. Dudes he's the president. The cat can do what he wants. You want to pray. Pray for me. I would be a righteous president. first order of business......legalize weed.
Oh yeah..THAT'S what we need...a nation of braindead stoners.
Bad pothead. No Twinkie.
Better than being a tight ass. Lighten up dude.
quote:Originally posted by Road Puppy:quote:Originally posted by Bamacat:
Go ahead and pray but I don't think the brother really needs it. Dudes he's the president. The cat can do what he wants. You want to pray. Pray for me. I would be a righteous president. first order of business......legalize weed.
Oh yeah..THAT'S what we need...a nation of braindead stoners.
Bad pothead. No Twinkie.
That’s what we have in the white house now. Seriously.
Hi all,
Should we be praying for Obama? Yes! Absolutely! It is not him we pray for; but our nation, the office of the president. I recall reading of the conflict between President Truman and General MacArthur in the 1950s. Truman was president; but, MacArthur saw himself as the Emperor. MacArthur was constantly doing things to embarrass the White House -- holding his own foreign affairs press conferences, publicly snubbing the president, etc.
Harry Truman told Emperor MacArthur, in no uncertain terms, "You may not respect me; but, you damm well WILL respect the office of President of the United States!" So, after a while and further ignoring of protocol by the Emperor, Truman fired him. Truman was one Democrat I still respect.
So, while I, like many Americans, am disgusted with and embarrassed by Emperor Obama -- we should still be praying for him. For, regardless -- we are stuck with him for another three years.
Another way to view Obama -- imagine if illness or anything else caused him to leave office; you do realize that the line of succession is (1) Biden - yuk!, (2) San Fran Nan Pelosi - double yuk!
As you can see, regardless of how many third world leaders Obama kisses, bows to, and apologizes to for being an American -- he is still better than these two alternatives.
Yes, pray for him -- but, pray harder for America.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Should we be praying for Obama? Yes! Absolutely! It is not him we pray for; but our nation, the office of the president. I recall reading of the conflict between President Truman and General MacArthur in the 1950s. Truman was president; but, MacArthur saw himself as the Emperor. MacArthur was constantly doing things to embarrass the White House -- holding his own foreign affairs press conferences, publicly snubbing the president, etc.
Harry Truman told Emperor MacArthur, in no uncertain terms, "You may not respect me; but, you damm well WILL respect the office of President of the United States!" So, after a while and further ignoring of protocol by the Emperor, Truman fired him. Truman was one Democrat I still respect.
So, while I, like many Americans, am disgusted with and embarrassed by Emperor Obama -- we should still be praying for him. For, regardless -- we are stuck with him for another three years.
Another way to view Obama -- imagine if illness or anything else caused him to leave office; you do realize that the line of succession is (1) Biden - yuk!, (2) San Fran Nan Pelosi - double yuk!
As you can see, regardless of how many third world leaders Obama kisses, bows to, and apologizes to for being an American -- he is still better than these two alternatives.
Yes, pray for him -- but, pray harder for America.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:
So, while I, like many Americans, are disgusted with and embarrassed by Emperor Obama -- we should still be praying for him. For, regardless -- we are stuck with him for another three years.
Just three more years until president Palin and her VP Ann Coulter set this country on a Godly path bringing us one step closer to the End Days. I can hardly wait!
quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi all,
Should we be praying for Obama? Yes! Absolutely! It is not him we pray for; but our nation, the office of the president. I recall reading of the conflict between President Truman and General MacArthur in the 1950s. Truman was president; but, MacArthur saw himself as the Emperor. MacArthur was constantly doing things to embarrass the White House -- holding his own foreign affairs press conferences, publicly snubbing the president, etc.
Harry Truman told Emperor MacArthur, in no uncertain terms, "You may not respect me; but, you damm well WILL respect the office of President of the United States!" So, after a while and further ignoring of protocol by the Emperor, Truman fired him. Truman was one Democrat I still respect.
So, while I, like many Americans, are disgusted with and embarrassed by Emperor Obama -- we should still be praying for him. For, regardless -- we are stuck with him for another three years.
Another way to view Obama -- imagine if illness or anything else caused him to leave office; you do realize that the line of succession is (1) Biden - yuk!, (2) San Fran Nan Pelosi - double yuk!
As you can see, regardless of how many third world leaders Obama kisses, bows to, and apologizes to for being an American -- he is still better than these two alternatives.
Yes, pray for him -- but, pray harder for America.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Bill, for once I have to wholeheartedly agree with ya.
Pray if it makes you feel better, but it won't do any good.
quote:Originally posted by CrustyMac:
Pray if it makes you feel better, but it won't do any good.
Hi Crusty,
Just when I had begun to worry that six strong men had come for you -- you pop up again. I am happy to see you alive and well.
I guess that lure of the name -- Bill Gray -- is just too much for you to resist. Happy to have you back.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Just think, if every Christian every day faithfully prayed for our President.
I mean true Godly prayers, that our President would hear the voice of God, that he would
listen to true Godly advise, that he would not be afraid and follow Gods ways. True prayers that are in alignment with Gods word. What do you think would happen?
1 Timothy 2 says
1 I exhort therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men,
2 for kings and for all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life
in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4 who will have all men to be saved and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time,
Although God is all-powerful and all-knowing, he has chosen to let us help him change the world through our prayers.
Paul urges us to pray for each other and for our leaders in government. Our earnest prayers will have powerful results
(James 5:16) We CAN change the density of OUR NATION!!!
Paul's command to pray for rulers was remarkable considering that Nero was emperor at this time (A.D. 54-68) Nero was a notoriously cruel emperor. He needed a scapegoat for the great fire that destroyed much of Rome in A.D 64, so to take the focus off himself he blamed the Roman Christians. Persecution erupted throughout the Roman Empire. Not
only were Christians denied certain privileges in society, some were even publicly butchered, burned, or fed to animals. Social ostracism was widespread. When Paul wrote this letter, persecution was a growing threat to believers.
Remember II Peter2 3:9, God longs for all to be saved!
I mean true Godly prayers, that our President would hear the voice of God, that he would
listen to true Godly advise, that he would not be afraid and follow Gods ways. True prayers that are in alignment with Gods word. What do you think would happen?
1 Timothy 2 says
1 I exhort therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men,
2 for kings and for all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life
in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4 who will have all men to be saved and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time,
Although God is all-powerful and all-knowing, he has chosen to let us help him change the world through our prayers.
Paul urges us to pray for each other and for our leaders in government. Our earnest prayers will have powerful results
(James 5:16) We CAN change the density of OUR NATION!!!
Paul's command to pray for rulers was remarkable considering that Nero was emperor at this time (A.D. 54-68) Nero was a notoriously cruel emperor. He needed a scapegoat for the great fire that destroyed much of Rome in A.D 64, so to take the focus off himself he blamed the Roman Christians. Persecution erupted throughout the Roman Empire. Not
only were Christians denied certain privileges in society, some were even publicly butchered, burned, or fed to animals. Social ostracism was widespread. When Paul wrote this letter, persecution was a growing threat to believers.
Remember II Peter2 3:9, God longs for all to be saved!
quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:quote:Originally posted by CrustyMac:
Pray if it makes you feel better, but it won't do any good.
Hi Crusty,
Just when I had begun to worry that six strong men had come for you -- you pop up again. I am happy to see you alive and well.
I guess that lure of the name -- Bill Gray -- is just too much for you to resist. Happy to have you back.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
I haven't gone anywhere, and it will take six strong men to root me out.
Don't flatter yourself.
Have a blissed day.
quote:Originally posted by intheshoals:
Just think, if every Christian every day faithfully prayed for our President.
I mean true Godly prayers, that our President would hear the voice of God, that he would
listen to true Godly advise, that he would not be afraid and follow Gods ways. True prayers that are in alignment with Gods word. What do you think would happen?
Exactly the same thing as if no prayers were said. Really.
quote:Originally posted by CrustyMac:quote:Originally posted by intheshoals:
Just think, if every Christian every day faithfully prayed for our President.
I mean true Godly prayers, that our President would hear the voice of God, that he would
listen to true Godly advise, that he would not be afraid and follow Gods ways. True prayers that are in alignment with Gods word. What do you think would happen?
Exactly the same thing as if no prayers were said. Really.
Crusty, Crusty, Crusty!
You told me that you are a church member -- but it seems that you do not believe in God, the Bible, or prayer. Which church are you a member of -- the Unitarian-Universalist church?
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Just because I don't share your distorted view, doesn't mean any of those things, Bill.
Have a blissed day.
Have a blissed day.
what is the TRUE christian way? President Obama want to make sure the poor have adequate health care while the so called christians oppose it because taxes MIGHT pay for it. I believe the verse related to that is Mark 10:21 "Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me."
The christians yell aboit socialism, and yet the original, first ever (known) socialist was Jesus Christ himself. Acts 4:32 - :37
32And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
36And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
37Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
and the penalty for not accepting socialism? Acts 5:1 - :10
1But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
So, TRUE christianity would be giving all you have to the poor, not griping about helping them.
The christians yell aboit socialism, and yet the original, first ever (known) socialist was Jesus Christ himself. Acts 4:32 - :37
32And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
36And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
37Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
and the penalty for not accepting socialism? Acts 5:1 - :10
1But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
So, TRUE christianity would be giving all you have to the poor, not griping about helping them.
Hi TCF,
Perhaps you have also heard the very true maxim: Give a man a fish -- and he will be back tomorrow for another fish. Teach the man to fish -- and he will feed his family.
Since the days of FDR, America has been giving people fish and not helping them learn to fish. Obama's healthcare plan and all his liberal ideas are more of the same.
America needs to get back to teaching folks how to fish.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Perhaps you have also heard the very true maxim: Give a man a fish -- and he will be back tomorrow for another fish. Teach the man to fish -- and he will feed his family.
Since the days of FDR, America has been giving people fish and not helping them learn to fish. Obama's healthcare plan and all his liberal ideas are more of the same.
America needs to get back to teaching folks how to fish.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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You put that very well Bill, I totally agree with you!
so what your saying is, let the poor die because they are poor and cant afford insurance?
quote:Originally posted by tcf531:
so what your saying is, let the poor die because they are poor and cant afford insurance?
Hi TCF,
No, what I am saying is that we should be offering a HAND UP -- not a HAND OUT.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:quote:Originally posted by CrustyMac:
Just because I don't share your distorted view, doesn't mean any of those things, Bill.
Hi Crusty,
So, what do you believe about God, the Bible, and prayer?
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Ah, Bill, if you really cared, I might tell you. I'm not going to be the source for another of your sermons.