Originally Posted by b50m:
I have said it over and over Semi. You just keep shifting the conversation.
So far you have said to me:
[semiannualchick]
A Christian is to “take up your cross and follow him” (Luke 9:23). One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus, & is a fully devoted follower of Jesus. You may believe all that is coverd under the 10 Commandments & the Golden Rule but I think it involves much more than that.
Following your best instincts, trying not to break any commandments, & trying to be good to others doesn’t make a Christian. I know many people that follow those same rules but they are by no means a Christian. I would love to hear what you believe a Christian to be.
I believe a Christian is one who professes belief in Jesus as Christ, truly follows His teachings & lives humbly before Him. I know many people that say they believe in Jesus, & call themselves a Christian but they go no further than that.
James 1:26 says that “If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless”.
Now for someone who knows all the exact rules, why do you keep asking me?
I don't know why you think I am arguing with you. I said, I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN, over and over and yet you want to make it into something about you. You always agree with the atheists and see nothing they say as derogatory or hateful. You see everything from the religious side as hateful.
Why are you so anxious for Christians to say the Bible is evil? Do you want it to be? Do you want every one to go to Hell because no one meets your definition of a good Christian?
I already have said that no one knows if they go to Heaven. Those that claim they do are just making themselves feel better. I may go to Heaven, I may go to Hell, I may end up in a 7/11 for eternity.
I don't know why you want to argue over this, you picked the least religious pseudo Christian/ non-Christian on here to pick a fight with. You want to argue over what makes a good Christian, argue with one.
__________________________________________
b, those exact rules are laid out in the Bible, not by me. You could ask 10 Christians what those rules mean, how we’re supposed to live by them & you would get 10 different answers. If I knew the exact way to live those rules, I wouldn’t be where I am now.
I keep asking you because you have said you’re not a Christian BUT you believe the Bible is divinely inspired. That you don't like people insulting it. I remember a post you wrote that you believed in Christ, that you believed He is part of God & God is part of Him. You said you believed your soul can be saved by doing what God wishes by following the 10 Commandments, actually you said about 16, depending on how you break them up, the Golden rule & common sense. I’m just confused how you can believe those things but say you’re not a Christian. Can a person go to Heaven believing those things but not be a Christian?
I don’t think you’re trying to ague with me, nor I with you & this is certainly not about me. I’m honestly trying to learn something here.
I do not always agree with the Atheist. I have said many times that I can’t quite wrap my mind around the fact that we came to be by a big bang or came from monkeys. They have never put me down or ridiculed me because I said that. I have never said they haven't said anything derogatory or hateful. I have said it comes from both Atheist & Christians.
I have said I have been treated more kindly from Atheist than Christians. O No & Vplee have been the only Christians that I can think of right off that have treated me kindly. I have not had one harsh word from an Atheist.
I haven’t said that I’m anxious for Christians to say the Bible is evil. I don’t need anyone to tell me it is. I have read it, I know what it says. Figuring it out & knowing what it all means is the hard part. Why would I want someone to tell me the Bible is evil? Why would I want every one to go to Hell because no one met my definition of a good Christian? Exactly what is my definition of a good Christian?
Just because I said my experience hasn’t good with most of them doesn’t mean they’re all bad.
According to the Bible, a person can know they’re going to Heaven but it takes a lot of hard work & my guess, would make for a miserable human being. I can definitely say that IF Hell exist, I’m going there. Simply because, if the Bible is true, I’m not doing what it tells me to do.
Again, I am not arguing with you, just trying to understand. BTW, if all my questions suggest that I’m being an azz, I’m sorry to come across that way. It’s not my intention.
As far as what you put in blue print. The scripture I quoted came from the Bible, not from me.
The rest is my opinion, IF I believed the Bible to be true. I honestly do not know what the Hell to believe!!