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I was disappointed the AZ legislature would pass such a bigoted immigration law as 1070. Turns out, the legislators votes were simply bought by the private prison industry, which will make billions from incarcerating people on behalf of the state.

Prison Economics Help Drive Ariz. Immigration Law
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No, actually it is not self evident. Why not answer his question, instead of making an assinine comment? The only reason the liberals think this is bad is because they were counting on the illegal alien vote.
What is illegal about asking someone to prove their citizen ship? We have a huge problem in this state now with illegals who are caught driving and breaking the law, and they do not show up in court. Afterwards they cannot be found....why?....because they were not citizens to begin with, and they just assume another name or identify and skulk back into the shadows. What will take to get you people to realize we need to protectour borders, and know who is coming and going? A nuke in Las vegas or L.A?
As usual the whole POINT of the post is lost on the likes of ferrellj and friends. I don't think any of you actually read the LINK that juan posted: THAT IS WHAT WAS SELF EVIDENT, the corruption that preceded and induced the bill NOT the bill itself. It is really hard holding any type of intelligent discussion with you tea types, that is why so few people who aren't teabaggers post on here, and since you don't believe NPR, how about a good old southern newspaper like the Nashville Tennessean?:
Thursday, October 28, 2010
Immigration Nashville-Based Corrections Corp. of America Bought Arizona Immigration Bill
Posted by Brantley Hargrove on Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:20 PM
Nashville's Corrections Corporation of America, the largest private prison company in the country, basically wrote Arizona Bill 1070 — the controversial immigration bill the Obama administration is challenging, and which conservative Tennessee legislators like Rep. Joe Carr of Murfreesboro praised this summer. That's the gist of an NPR investigation that uncovers Bond-villain levels of chicanery.


If there was ever any doubt that the bill signed into law by Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer had absolutely nothing to do with securing the border, let it be dispelled with prejudice. Last December, a number of Arizona lawmakers attended a meeting in Washington, D.C., for the aptly named American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). That's a group composed of legislators, CCA, tobacco giant Reynolds American, ExxonMobil, the National Rifle Association and other companies who pay tens of thousands of dollars to attend these gatherings of "conservative, free-market oriented, limited-government" folks.

It was there that Arizona's immigration bill was drawn up. CCA naturally stood to gain the most. Citing a company document, NPR reported the company expected a "significant portion" of its future revenues to come from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for the detention of undocumented immigrants.

When the bill, virtually unchanged from the language and substance laid down by its legislative and corporate authors, made it to the Arizona House floor, two-thirds of its sponsors were members of ALEC. Over the next several months, most of the bill's co-sponsors received donations from CCA and other corrections companies. Gov. Brewer, whose two top advisers are former private prison company lobbyists, immediately signed the bill.

Talk about the land of opportunity: The undocumented immigrants making the dangerous trek to this country, like so many millions from all over the world since the United States' founding, are indeed a golden opportunity — for companies like CCA, whose stock-and-trade is incarceration. And for a price, ALEC companies got Arizona's business.

Said the president of Geo Group, an ALEC member and private prison company during a conference call, "Those people coming across the border and getting caught are going to have to be detained and that for me, at least I think, there's going to be enhanced opportunities for what we do."

And that evidently means enhanced opportunities to stir and manipulate the irrational fears and prejudices of an inflamed citizenry, to serve the ends of powerful private companies wreathed in the patriotic duty of "securing our border" and "cracking down on illegal immigration." Invest now
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Originally posted by JuanHunt:
I was disappointed the AZ legislature would pass such a bigoted immigration law as 1070.


I think it is you, rocky, that is lost. Read the quote from juan, not the article he linked to. The whole POINT is that I have asked juan to quote the part of the bill that HE SAID was bigoted and so far he has failed to do so. Perhaps you could help him out and respond for him.
Do you think the new prison system could be like one of those in the movies???? with a sonic fence that activates an explosive charge placed in a collar around their necks????/ would it be possible to buy our way out of this corrupt prison system run by the corporations to use us for slave labor in their tillium mines????
What a "maroon"!!!!

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And I will give it to you ferrellj, you have perfected the Fox News switch and confuse technique. Instead of actually debating the corruption that led to the bill that Jaun referred to and posted provenance for, you switched to opinion to create an emotional smokescreen. The problem with the technique is that those who aren't tea partiers of Fox News devotees had rather have fact than emotion.
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And I will give it to you ferrellj, you have perfected the Fox News switch and confuse technique. Instead of actually debating the corruption that led to the bill that Jaun referred to and posted provenance for, you switched to opinion to create an emotional smokescreen. The problem with the technique is that those who aren't tea partiers of Fox News devotees had rather have fact than emotion.


No switching or confusing here. Juan made a statement and I called him on it and he hasn't been heard from since. I think that's the old post and run technique. I'm not going to debate an article from NPR because I feel the same about them as you do FOX. Arizona did not pass 1070 just because some group wanted to start a prison.
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Arizona did not pass 1070 just because some group wanted to start a prison.

(Well I guess I WILL talk to dining room chairs)
Is that your OPINION Ferrellj? Would you post some provenance to back this up? Do you dispute the Nashville Tennessean article? Can you provide articles to counter this claim?
That is my opinion. That opinion is based on common sense, do they teach that at UNA? The problems Arizona faces everyday from illegal immigration are well documented. It is against U.S. federal law to enter this country illegally, that is fact. Our own government refuses to do one of the few tasks that it is constitutionally obliged to do. Arizona chose to take matters into their own hands since the federal government would not. 1070 is basically identical to federal law. I do not have a problem with anyone seeing an opportunity to start a business where a need is seen. That's the basis of capitalism, not socialism.
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Would you post some provenance to back this up? Do you dispute the Nashville Tennessean article? Can you provide articles to counter this claim?

I have asked you 3 simple questions and you have failed to answer them.


The provenance of my opinion is commen sense as explained in my post.(I thought you could read).

The Nashville article is opinion based on a few facts. I won't dispute the facts but disagree with the opinion.

no.

Any other questions? I'm still waiting for an answer to my 1 question.
“A law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state may not solely consider race, color or national origin in implementing the requirements of this subsection except to the extent permitted by the Unites States or Arizona constitution.”

Racial profiling is allowed under both US and Arizona law. The underlying question is whether racial profiling will undermine the law enforcement in regard to immigration status questions. My hope is that all the illegal Irish immigrants in AZ are deported.

The last time I checked it was not Irish immigrants who were sneaking over the border at night bringing in drugs and buying guns.

The last time I checked it was not illegal irish immigrants who were hyjacking planes and flying them into skyscrapers.

When either of those things start happening, I am all for racial profiling which targets the illegal irish immigrants.

Why not ask to borrow some of ferrel's common sense? It sounds like you could use some of it.

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