Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Since Paul is no longer in the government, I assume this thread is just information in passing. Go back far enough, and plenty of former Democrat politicians would have close ties with the terrorist, para-military arm of the Democrats -- the KKK. I remember even cranky old socialist Norman Thomas used to appear on the dais with the hooded ones.
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You go back 60 years and more to a past era, evidencing how desperate you are to find something racist in Democrat history. Ron Paul lives in the present and Ron Paul's son is a hot prospect for the GOP presidential nomination. Dwell on the distant past, if you so choose; I posted about an old racist/secessionist who is still alive and kicking.
Go back only 10 years and see what Ron Paul infamously did only a short time ago:
The Civil Rights Act repealed the notorious Jim Crow laws; forced schools, bathrooms and buses to desegregate; and banned employment discrimination. Although Paul was not around to weigh in on the landmark legislation at the time, he had the chance to cast a symbolic vote against it in 2004, when the House of Representatives took up a resolution "recognizing and honoring the 40th anniversary of congressional passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964." Paul was the only member who voted "no."
As to Rand Paul on civil rights, well, the acorn does not fall far from the tree:
http://thinkprogress.org/justi...ontrolling-property/
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/...ul-civil-rights-act/
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As he was born in 1935, going back 60 years isn't too far. Dems had much more radical anti-civil rights views back then -- much more radical than Paul's.
Your first cited link was pretty much a leftie hatchet job with little facts and actual statements cited.
The son's argument per property rights reflect yours concerning gay rights.
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So then, those clearly incriminating verbatim quotations from Rand Paul are a "hatchet job"? Well, maybe a hatchet job on HIMSELF!
From the first source cited;
RAND PAUL: There are things that people were concerned about that were unintended consequences [of the Civil Rights Act], for example, people who believe very fervently in people having equal protection under the law, and are against segregation and all that, still worried about the loss of property rights…for example, I can’t have a cigar bar any more, and you say, “well, that has nothing to do with race” — the idea of whether or not you control your property, it also tells you, come in here I want to know the calorie count on that, and the calorie ****s come in here and tell me. [...] The point is that its not all about that. It’s not all about race relations, it’s about controlling property, ultimately.
Law, to a degree, relies upon precedent,, not just what is written down. And, as Paul stated, we have seen establishments like cigar bars banned by over eager liberals. Restaurants in Chicago banned from serving politically incorrect items like foie gras and requiring caloric counts for every item on the menu.
Condie's challenge:
And if you believe that Rand Paul's views on property rights reflect mine on gay rights, then say WHY you believe that. Your simply saying it does not make it so. Some actual explanation, please.
"If the engaged same-sex couple does not like this aspect of the services offered by the Knapps, they can seek assistance elsewhere."
https://www.tnvalleytalks.com/t...9#414646549005230969
And, how different is you statement above substantially different from Paul's