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The only thing this victim admits to is writing the location and date underneath Moore's inscription. A former GBI forensic handwriting expert has pronounced the writing and signature to be Moore's. And it's identical to the writing on Ms. Gibson's graduation card which Moore now seems to want to call a political greeting. Oh, but he didn't know her last week.

FVPOA posted:

The only thing this victim admits to is writing the location and date underneath Moore's inscription. A former GBI forensic handwriting expert has pronounced the writing and signature to be Moore's. And it's identical to the writing on Ms. Gibson's graduation card which Moore now seems to want to call a political greeting. Oh, but he didn't know her last week.

I guess Roy Moore also time traveled to the future and brought Deborah Adams back to the past to put her initials on the signature as well. Also I believe more than a few handwriting experts have told other news agencies that photo copies can't be used to determine the authenticity of signatures; so who knows the truth since Gloria Allred won't let unbiased experts look at the yearbook.

Moore has also said that the initials “D.A.” that appear with his “signature” in the yearbook were actually lifted from his signature as it appeared on Nelson’s divorce decree, which Moore signed when he was the judge on the case. His judicial assistant at the time was named Deborah Adams. Her initials appearing on a yearbook allegedly signed by Moore years earlier would all but prove the signature was a forgery.

Many pundits have already questioned the authenticity of the yearbook evidence, and pointed out that Nelson has refused to allow forensic analysts look at it in order to determine its authenticity.

With the accuser now admitting that she changed a key piece of “evidence,” there is no choice but ask the obvious question: What else did she alter or perhaps lie about in order to smear Moore?

It’s rather difficult to believe a person’s story when they admit to tampering with evidence. A strong case does not need falsehoods in order to prop it up.

https://clearpolitics.news/dev...hedoctored-yearbook/

FVPOA posted:

Stanky, I would agree totally, but for one thing. The writing in Mrs. Gibson's graduation card appears identical to the writing in the yearbook:aroymoorecard

The writing might be from the same person, but is it Moore's? That's where a few handwriting specialists are needed to look at the actual book and card along with a known sample of Roy Moore's handwriting. 

So you think it's possible someone forged a yearbook in Alabama and a greeting card in Florida? While nothing is outside the realm of possibility, that sounds just a little out there, doesn't it?

Not only that, Moore's latest story is that he did know Mrs. Gibson slightly and sent her the card as a political gesture:

"Moore’s campaign strategist, Dean Young, went on CNN to dismiss the card as a meaningless, well-wishing note from a politician. Porter said that Moore was just a “family friend” and that Gibson’s story—that the card was more intimate—didn’t pass “the straight-face test.”

So which is it? Now Dean Young admits Roy wrote it. This is the third story concerning Mrs. Gibson.

Makes you wonder what they will lie about next. She should get jail time for her little stunt. She and allred should do time, because you can bet she went along with it knowing it was a lie. There are no limits with the demoslops. Wapo just tried and failed at their little deception. What did I say, the slops have their claws and fangs in deep, and it's going to be a fight to pull them out!

SirWasabi posted:

they'd still have a hard time voting for a Democrat.

The last Democrat, H. Truman is dead and replaced with liberal
slaves and slave owners, pimps, pushers and users, MS13, ISIS,
multiple millions of non working, non English speaking, non
friendly welfare cheats waiting to vote as directed.
That kind of deranged thinking is the only misfit to vote liberal...  

 

FVPOA posted:

So you think it's possible someone forged a yearbook in Alabama and a greeting card in Florida? While nothing is outside the realm of possibility, that sounds just a little out there, doesn't it?

Not only that, Moore's latest story is that he did know Mrs. Gibson slightly and sent her the card as a political gesture:

"Moore’s campaign strategist, Dean Young, went on CNN to dismiss the card as a meaningless, well-wishing note from a politician. Porter said that Moore was just a “family friend” and that Gibson’s story—that the card was more intimate—didn’t pass “the straight-face test.”

So which is it? Now Dean Young admits Roy wrote it. This is the third story concerning Mrs. Gibson.

And the handwriting experts have said that the handwriting on both the card and the yearbook are the same! Nope, they haven't because both items have not been allowed to be studied by qualified handwriting experts. We do have strong evidence that Mrs. Gibson was willing to "sweeten" her evidence because she had to admit it because she was stupid enough to use the wrong color of ink on the yearbook. It might also be a good idea to check the card as well, Moore might have given her a congratulatory card, but is it the card that is being presented as evidence.  

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Stanky posted:
FVPOA posted:

So you think it's possible someone forged a yearbook in Alabama and a greeting card in Florida? While nothing is outside the realm of possibility, that sounds just a little out there, doesn't it?

Not only that, Moore's latest story is that he did know Mrs. Gibson slightly and sent her the card as a political gesture:

"Moore’s campaign strategist, Dean Young, went on CNN to dismiss the card as a meaningless, well-wishing note from a politician. Porter said that Moore was just a “family friend” and that Gibson’s story—that the card was more intimate—didn’t pass “the straight-face test.”

So which is it? Now Dean Young admits Roy wrote it. This is the third story concerning Mrs. Gibson.

And the handwriting experts have said that the handwriting on both the card and the yearbook are the same! Nope, they haven't because both items have not been allowed to be studied by qualified handwriting experts. We do have strong evidence that Mrs. Gibson was willing to "sweeten" her evidence because she had to admit it because she was stupid enough to use the wrong color of ink on the yearbook. It might also be a good idea to check the card as well, Moore might have given her a congratulatory card, but is it the card that is being presented as evidence.  

1. You have Mrs. Gibson confused with Mrs. Nelson.

2. Your statement shows, by calling Mrs. Nelson "stupid," that you believe the whole thing to be a sham and have already formed an opinion. (I'm assuming you meant Mrs. Nelson even though you said Mrs. Gibson.)

3. While it may have been only one expert and a limited perusal, the former GBI handwriting expert believes they were written by the same person...that person being Roy Moore.

4. And btw, speaking as a woman, the card Mrs. Gibson has presented is about as romantic as a can of tuna. So if it is a "sweetened" message, I would hate to see the first one. What would it have said? "Break a leg, kid?"

5. Finally, a totally new card? It would have to be one manufactured c. 1981. Those forgers have a tough time of it, don't they?

Stanky posted:
FVPOA posted:

So you think it's possible someone forged a yearbook in Alabama and a greeting card in Florida? While nothing is outside the realm of possibility, that sounds just a little out there, doesn't it?

Not only that, Moore's latest story is that he did know Mrs. Gibson slightly and sent her the card as a political gesture:

"Moore’s campaign strategist, Dean Young, went on CNN to dismiss the card as a meaningless, well-wishing note from a politician. Porter said that Moore was just a “family friend” and that Gibson’s story—that the card was more intimate—didn’t pass “the straight-face test.”

So which is it? Now Dean Young admits Roy wrote it. This is the third story concerning Mrs. Gibson.

And the handwriting experts have said that the handwriting on both the card and the yearbook are the same! Nope, they haven't because both items have not been allowed to be studied by qualified handwriting experts. We do have strong evidence that Mrs. Gibson was willing to "sweeten" her evidence because she had to admit it because she was stupid enough to use the wrong color of ink on the yearbook. It might also be a good idea to check the card as well, Moore might have given her a congratulatory card, but is it the card that is being presented as evidence.  

Why won't they give them access to the card and yearbook? Whose money is going to pay her and allred??

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Stanky posted:
FVPOA posted:

So you think it's possible someone forged a yearbook in Alabama and a greeting card in Florida? While nothing is outside the realm of possibility, that sounds just a little out there, doesn't it?

Not only that, Moore's latest story is that he did know Mrs. Gibson slightly and sent her the card as a political gesture:

"Moore’s campaign strategist, Dean Young, went on CNN to dismiss the card as a meaningless, well-wishing note from a politician. Porter said that Moore was just a “family friend” and that Gibson’s story—that the card was more intimate—didn’t pass “the straight-face test.”

So which is it? Now Dean Young admits Roy wrote it. This is the third story concerning Mrs. Gibson.

And the handwriting experts have said that the handwriting on both the card and the yearbook are the same! Nope, they haven't because both items have not been allowed to be studied by qualified handwriting experts. We do have strong evidence that Mrs. Gibson was willing to "sweeten" her evidence because she had to admit it because she was stupid enough to use the wrong color of ink on the yearbook. It might also be a good idea to check the card as well, Moore might have given her a congratulatory card, but is it the card that is being presented as evidence.  

You're confusing Gibson and Nelson.  Nelson-Yearbook.  Gibson-card.

Nelson added Olde Hickory House to the yearbook.  Roy Moore's signatures are the same

FVPOA posted:
Stanky posted:
FVPOA posted:

So you think it's possible someone forged a yearbook in Alabama and a greeting card in Florida? While nothing is outside the realm of possibility, that sounds just a little out there, doesn't it?

Not only that, Moore's latest story is that he did know Mrs. Gibson slightly and sent her the card as a political gesture:

"Moore’s campaign strategist, Dean Young, went on CNN to dismiss the card as a meaningless, well-wishing note from a politician. Porter said that Moore was just a “family friend” and that Gibson’s story—that the card was more intimate—didn’t pass “the straight-face test.”

So which is it? Now Dean Young admits Roy wrote it. This is the third story concerning Mrs. Gibson.

And the handwriting experts have said that the handwriting on both the card and the yearbook are the same! Nope, they haven't because both items have not been allowed to be studied by qualified handwriting experts. We do have strong evidence that Mrs. Gibson was willing to "sweeten" her evidence because she had to admit it because she was stupid enough to use the wrong color of ink on the yearbook. It might also be a good idea to check the card as well, Moore might have given her a congratulatory card, but is it the card that is being presented as evidence.  

1. You have Mrs. Gibson confused with Mrs. Nelson.

2. Your statement shows, by calling Mrs. Nelson "stupid," that you believe the whole thing to be a sham and have already formed an opinion. (I'm assuming you meant Mrs. Nelson even though you said Mrs. Gibson.)

3. While it may have been only one expert and a limited perusal, the former GBI handwriting expert believes they were written by the same person...that person being Roy Moore.

4. And btw, speaking as a woman, the card Mrs. Gibson has presented is about as romantic as a can of tuna. So if it is a "sweetened" message, I would hate to see the first one. What would it have said? "Break a leg, kid?"

5. Finally, a totally new card? It would have to be one manufactured c. 1981. Those forgers have a tough time of it, don't they?

Sorry, I'm not used to soap operas and your post appeared to my old mind that one owner had both pieces of "evidence" so I made a mistake. You posted that the former GBI expert had "limited perusal"; you do know that most hand writing experts demand the original and not photocopies: 

 http://files.ali-cle.org/thumb...209-MATLEY_thumb.pdf

I might add that the value of a senate seat during the present time of close margins could be enough reason to generate forgeries, so everything should still be matched to a known sample of Moore's handwriting. That is especially needed after the crude altering of evidence by whichever person who has the yearbook.  

As to who I believe, I have no reason to believe anyone involved, so I'm waiting for good non-refutable evidence to be presented. I suspect it's not that hard to generate a forgery with modern photocopy equipment and someone decent at calligraphy.

I didn't vote for Moore during the primary or runoff and there's a very large chance that I won't on Dec. 12th unless I see strong evidence that outsiders are manipulating the electorate. Right now I'm seeing Gloria Allred holding evidence that could make or break this election, but she isn't willing to have that evidence examined; so that large chance that I vote for the retired Marine Colonel is starting to shrink.

 

As I stated earlier, I voted for Strange.  The problem is this entire Moore accusation stinks of Democrat instigation.  After decades in the public eye, just weeks before Moore runs for a crucial senate seat, the pedophile accusation pops up.

Dems have covered up massive pedophilia amongst their own.  Jeff Epstein of pedophile island and Lolita Express plane infamy comes to mind.  Both Hillary and Bill booked on the plane numerous times and visited the resort.  Despite the massive trafficking, Epstein only got an 18 month sentence, of which he served 13 months.  Tell me the fix wasn't in.  Dems will do almost anything to retain power.  I used to joke about Arkancide, until the body count kept growing.

As to Gloria Allred, Jackie Mason that she makes Hillary seem like an honest woman.

As to the survivors of Epstein's resort, I've heard rumors about the girls afterwards that sound gruesome, but will not repeat the stories without some substantiation.  

This is Alabama.  The Democrats here are more conservative then the coastal elites that you die hard Trump/Moore supporters hate.  Roy Moore has refused to debate Doug Jones.  Roy Moore is a coward.  None of his supporters have said how Roy Moore is going to improve things in Alabama.  Apparently, y'all only dislike Jones because of the abortion issue.  Like that's the only thing holding us back.   If you guys like being at the bottom of every major category, that's fine.  The adults are trying to Make Alabama Great Again.

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