Roy Moore up again in the polls

direstraits posted:

I see that the DoJ has re-opened the investigation for selling fetus organs and parts.

This is a good time to level the slaughterhouse once and for
all, while sending the sending the murder for profit cult
up the river, till death do us part, sounds good to me.

 

SirWasabi posted:

And God said "just don't remove a fertilized egg and pedophilia is perfectly fine."

I still find it amazing how easily you are willing to ignore the rights offered to any American citizen such as being innocent until proven guilty.  There has been no proof or evidence that Roy Moore is guilty of pedophilia .  The only ones that know for sure is Roy Moore and the girl but there is plenty of reason to give the benefit of the doubt.  For one IF Roy Moore was guilty, as you have no problem considering him as, then what is your belief as to why Roy Moore didn't commit the act itself?  As I have heard it was a situation where there was some possible touching or petting but no act which would be bad enough itself  (    IF   )  Roy Moore knew she was under age.  No one can say if he knew that.  

What we do know is the Girl enjoyed running around with older boys, making older boys believe she was older and wanted to fit in with the older crowd.  There is plenty or reason to suspect that she may have lied about her age or if Roy Moore did attempt to date her though she was over the age of accountability.  We just don't know, or most of us don't know, as you seem to be able to discern.  

IF Roy Moore was guilty then that IS reason not to vote for him but at this point there is enough reason to suspect what is happening is a hit job in an attempt to cause Moore to lose.  I just don't believe there is enough evidence or reason to convict him of what you have no problem convicting him of.   I just hope that if you are ever in a position of needing the benefit of the doubt that someone will give it to you rather than rushing to judgment without concern for your own rights.  

I thought that was evident.  I am going to vote for Moore and the only way I wouldn't is if there was some proof of his guilt and I don't believe that evidence is there.  Did he like dating younger girls, yeah, and many people today do exactly the same thing.  What I doubt is that he knowingly dated or would date an underage girl.   I am confident that Roy Moore is not a pedophile otherwise I would not be able to vote for him.  

The main disqualifying reason I can't vote for Doug Jones is his Abortion stand and frankly I don't believe him when he says he wouldn't be there to vote as someone else said vote.  I fully believe that Jones, if elected, would be a locked up vote for the Democrats to oppose and obstruct anything that Donald Trump and/or the Republicans wanted to do.  I just don't believe Doug Jones would vote for anything that Trump wanted or proposed.

SirWasabi posted:

So, as long as a sexual assault happened long enough ago, it's no big deal?

I'm sure 10 women got together and said 'you know what would be fun? Lets attack Roy Moore.' There's no defense for a pedophile to be elected to the US Senate.

Come, come. Pedophile? No. There's a word for Moore and it's ephebophilia. Ephebophiles like 15 to 19 year old girls and that's definitely Moore. How old was his wife when he first saw her and became smitten? 15. No matter that he was 29 at the time. 

No matter that he lied in his autobiography about dating Kayla after her divorce.

No matter that he tells people they're going to Hell.

No matter that his income returns don't match.

No matter that he says what the press has done to him is unforgivable.

No matter that he lied about Planned Parenthood contributing to Doug Jones' campaign. 

No matter that he refuses to debate Doug Jones.

No matter that he's already planning on trying to unseat Mitch McConnell.

No, no matter as long as he's an "R."

gbrk posted:

I thought that was evident.  I am going to vote for Moore and the only way I wouldn't is if there was some proof of his guilt and I don't believe that evidence is there.  Did he like dating younger girls, yeah, and many people today do exactly the same thing.  What I doubt is that he knowingly dated or would date an underage girl.   I am confident that Roy Moore is not a pedophile otherwise I would not be able to vote for him.  

The main disqualifying reason I can't vote for Doug Jones is his Abortion stand and frankly I don't believe him when he says he wouldn't be there to vote as someone else said vote.  I fully believe that Jones, if elected, would be a locked up vote for the Democrats to oppose and obstruct anything that Donald Trump and/or the Republicans wanted to do.  I just don't believe Doug Jones would vote for anything that Trump wanted or proposed.

Murder of babies is big business and money makers for the demoslops. PP protects child molesters and that is OK with the slops because PP shovels part of that evil money into their coffers. Stop abortions and you take away the joy the demoslops have in being able to murder babies AND get paid to do it.

giftedamateur posted:

Doug Jones-"I'm not in favor of anything that is going to infringe on a woman's right and her freedom to choose," Jones said, when asked about a ban on abortion after 20 weeks. 

You want men to be able to tell women what to do with their bodies?  

direstraits posted:

Twelve to fifteen years difference in ages was not uncommon in my grandparents time.  A man was supposed to be financially sound before marriage.  

Marriage to Laura Ingalls. When Wilder was 25 years old and Ingalls was age 15, the two began courting. Wilder would drive Ingalls back and forth between De Smet and a new settlement 12 miles (19 km) outside town where she was teaching school and boarding.

Oh, and Hugh Hefner 86, his bride 26! Ha!

I have a friend who's 60 and dates a 40 year old. He also drives a Merc and wears a Rolex. Think there's a connection?

Undoubtedly, Kayla Kisor saw both financial stability and upward mobility when she looked into Roy Moore's beady eyes for the first time. Has anyone heard of a cause Kayla espouses that's unique to her? No, didn't think so. Instead of referring to him as "my husband," she says "the judge." Everyone remember the George Wallace and the schoolteacher convention joke?

direstraits posted:

Trump, rather crudely, in his talk with Billy Bush told an old truth.  Men use wealth and power to attract women.  Women use money to make themselves attractive to men.  Such has been the case since a hunter returned to the cave with a tasty animal.  

He didn't say anything that wasn't true. Need another example? Hugh Hefner.

direstraits posted:

Trump, rather crudely, in his talk with Billy Bush told an old truth.  Men use wealth and power to attract women.  Women use money to make themselves attractive to men.  Such has been the case since a hunter returned to the cave with a tasty animal.  

Silly me, I've always looked for a sense of humor and a brain, plus a little moral integrity. I don't think Moore has any of those.

 

FVPOA posted:
direstraits posted:

Trump, rather crudely, in his talk with Billy Bush told an old truth.  Men use wealth and power to attract women.  Women use money to make themselves attractive to men.  Such has been the case since a hunter returned to the cave with a tasty animal.  

Silly me, I've always looked for a sense of humor and a brain, plus a little moral integrity. I don't think Moore has any of those.

 

Did you see Moore mentioned in this comment?  Don't think so!  Humor, sense and integrity are nice, but not what a lot of women were looking for.  

No, you didn't mention Moore, I did. I said he didn't have anything I was looking for in a man. And there has always been a misunderstanding about how much lawyers make, especially in north Alabama. Perhaps Moore was rich to Kayla, no matter what, but I've dated several attorneys and they didn't make the mint that some people think. Some years I made more money than they did.

Perhaps Roy thinks he has to make money from the foundation to keep Kayla? In the end, be it a man or woman, if you marry for money, you deserve what you get.

The question of whether Roy Moore liked dating younger girls/women was never in question rather whether or not he knew this 14 year old girl was actually 14 and illegal at the time and frankly only Roy Moore knows the truth to that.  None of us know if he knew or found out or if the girl led him on to think she was older than she was.  What we do know is now she is crying foul but then she saw him multiple times and had to sneak out to do it.  If someone was abusing you and doing something illegal I don't think you would be sneaking away in order to meet them so that you could be abused nor do I think you would do it more than once.  

Also the idea that someone voting for Roy Moore condones abuse of young children is crazy also.  The whole thing is more political than anything else and those who have already convicted Roy Moore and are ready to Lynch him would have no problem if he was a Democrat and someone of their own party.  The age difference between Bill Clinton and Monica was equally as bad only there you had had a man in the most powerful office of the Nation taking advantage of a young intern and no one cared the least bit about it because he was a Democrat, not the media nor the majority of Senators or other Democrats because their party was in power.  It's all politics and to try and say it's anything else is just being as deceptive as CNN usually is in their reporting.  

The next step in this current parade that is going on before us is to go after Donald Trump and attempt to force him to resign stating that he has harassed or abused women.  Any thing that they can try and use as leverage and everyone knows that since the Russian Collusion story is falling apart at it's seams now the media and liberals will be using the "me too" card and calling for Donald Trump to step down, Roy Moore is just a side show in that effort.  

There is no reason in the world for Trump to step down. What he said is true, and the left are the worse about it as we have seen lately. If they want to worry about pedophiles, which I doubt they do, they can go back to their ex-president and his pal, and his wife who defended them all and laughed about it.

Bestworking posted:

There is no reason in the world for Trump to step down. What he said is true, and the left are the worse about it as we have seen lately. If they want to worry about pedophiles, which I doubt they do, they can go back to their ex-president and his pal, and his wife who defended them all and laughed about it.

I'm not disagreeing ... The whole liberal left turned their heads away from Clinton as he, a much older (than Roy Moore) man in the highest position office in the nation took advantage of a very young intern, in the Oval Office and all with no remorse.  The only remorse was getting caught.  Hillary did enable this and always has as she destroyed other women's reputations as they attempted to tell the truth about her Husband so she is just as guilty.  

As for my statement about Trump, that was made because I fully believe that the Liberal left, and the Democrats along with the help of the media, are going to go full out to attempt to get Trump through those women who accused him of harassment.  Trump never bragged about anything and all Trump has done is having to deal with lies about what he did say.    I fully, though, expect that this is the avenue that the Democrats and media will use in an attempt to get him to resign or to impeach him, both of which I believe will fail miserably as more of their own are taken down in the process.   

The whole Russian dossier and Collusion talk was totally an attempt to overthrow the legitimate election of Donald Trump.  The dossier was proven to be false, bought and paid for by Democrats although started by Republicans, but all false and an attempt to stop Trump.  You have FBI agents that both worked actively to stop prosecution of Clinton (who deserves to be in jail) and remove/stop Trump on totally fraudulent and false charges that very likely stems from illegally obtained wire taps and other illegal moves by current FBI agents who are highly partisan and biased toward Hillary Clinton and against Donald Trump.   People should go to jail but I doubt they ever will.  They will, like Lois Learner, who used her position to politically punish political opponents, and benefit in retirement due to their governmental golden parachutes (retirement and bonuses).

giftedamateur posted:
direstraits posted:

Twelve to fifteen years difference in ages was not uncommon in my grandparents time.  A man was supposed to be financially sound before marriage.  

Marriage to Laura Ingalls. When Wilder was 25 years old and Ingalls was age 15, the two began courting. Wilder would drive Ingalls back and forth between De Smet and a new settlement 12 miles (19 km) outside town where she was teaching school and boarding.

Oh, and Hugh Hefner 86, his bride 26! Ha!

Lewinsky scandal. The Lewinsky scandal was an American political sex scandal that involved 49-year-old President Bill Clinton and a 22-year-old White House intern, Monica Lewinsky. The sexual relationship took place between 1995 and 1996 and came to light in 1998.

Bestworking posted:
giftedamateur posted:
direstraits posted:

Twelve to fifteen years difference in ages was not uncommon in my grandparents time.  A man was supposed to be financially sound before marriage.  

Marriage to Laura Ingalls. When Wilder was 25 years old and Ingalls was age 15, the two began courting. Wilder would drive Ingalls back and forth between De Smet and a new settlement 12 miles (19 km) outside town where she was teaching school and boarding.

Oh, and Hugh Hefner 86, his bride 26! Ha!

Lewinsky scandal. The Lewinsky scandal was an American political sex scandal that involved 49-year-old President Bill Clinton and a 22-year-old White House intern, Monica Lewinsky. The sexual relationship took place between 1995 and 1996 and came to light in 1998.

Lewinsky was nothing, a non-event, don't you know that?  Why now the media outlets are crying that they messed up allowing Bill Clinton to get a pass for his actions when they should have required him to resign as any good President would if accused or caught doing such.  NOW though they have seen the error of their ways with this 1992-2000 President and now, since Donald Trump is in office they can remedy that by acting on information and accusations that he harassed women before.  NOW they can require Trump to resign and get rid of him.  That's what all this Hubbub is about.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...r-BBGv8lh?li=BBnb7Kz

The Russia Collusion deal is falling apart and even showing tendencies to involve Hillary and the Democrats so it has to go away while the REAL bad things can be investigated and require a President to resign.  These people are sick, deranged and won't go away and they surely will not quit and you can guarantee yourself that.  I only hope that Trump remains productive and popular and wins in 2020 which I think he should have no problem doing as long as the Republicans can pass his tax plan and America's economic growth continues as it has from when he was elected.  Much to the chagrin of the media which refuses to cover any good news if it has anything remotely to do with Trump.

Clinton is no longer of any use. He and Conyers are just expendables. Old horses that will be put out to pasture and no one really cares. So for all intents and purposes they, like the Kennedys and others, got away with it.  Franken won't go anywhere if Moore is elected, nor will the left ask him to leave. He too will get away with it. The left never does anything for the good of the country. Their actions are always self serving.

Bestworking posted:

 "People should go to jail but I doubt they ever will".

Don't forget loretta lynch and her tarmac meeting with bill where they discussed grandkids, which neither of them have.

I don't they talked about anything, he deplaned smoking a cigar
and stuff, I'm thinking Christmas ideas for the beast,,, yup..
Kraven posted:
Bestworking posted:

 "People should go to jail but I doubt they ever will".

Don't forget loretta lynch and her tarmac meeting with bill where they discussed grandkids, which neither of them have.

I don't they talked about anything, he deplaned smoking a cigar
and stuff, I'm thinking Christmas ideas for the beast,,, yup..

Yes, he got her a heck of a Christmas gift, a get out of jail free card.

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