i am wondering if it worries the conservatives that over twice as many people attended todays rally than attended becks rally for hate?
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1. You are wrong. Estimates of the comedy rally is 150,000.
2. Beck had 500,000.
3. Beck honored soldiers, I guess you would call that hate.
4. Sharpton had 3000.
2. Beck had 500,000.
3. Beck honored soldiers, I guess you would call that hate.
4. Sharpton had 3000.
Beck had a Christian revival. probably because he thinks he's Jesus.
quote:i am wondering if it worries the conservatives that over twice as many people attended todays rally than attended becks rally for hate?
I don't watch/listen to Beck, nor any of the other so called conservative voices. Same goes for the liberal mouths. I do, however, investigate what I hear, see on the news, and posted here. I have been around long enough, and seen the political "machine" at play, to decide for myself along what I feel strongly about. That's one of the reasons I laugh at the BS coming from you guys, as well as some from the right.
Take your statement for instance. Anyone who researched Becks event, both from right and left media, and then the independents, would know that it was not about "hate". Look that word up if you need to.
I would hope that you worded it that way for a "reaction" because I really don't think you are ignorant.
Now as for Juan...
quote:Originally posted by JuanHunt:
Beck had a Christian revival. probably because he thinks he's Jesus.
Wrong, but then you know you are.
Hate Christians too Juan?
Are you atheist and liberal?
quote:Originally posted by JuanHunt:
Beck had a Christian revival. probably because he thinks he's Jesus.
You're sick. Jon Stewart is a pathetic excuse for an American, and you seem to be trying your best to follow his footsteps.
quote:Originally posted by mad.bum:
Jon Stewart is a pathetic excuse for an American...
No, Jon Stuart Leibowitz is a pathetic excuse for a satarist, I won't impugn his American-ness...
Jon Stewart is an entertainer who thinks he knows politics. Like that is something new.
Just thought I would drop by this forum to see if there were any threads concerning The Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear and SURE ENOUGH, there are 2! The first I came across showed signs and pictures which I guess were to represent the "keep fear alive" side of Steven Colbert. The other touted the numbers at the actual rally as being better attended than Glenn Becks.
Did anyone happen to watch the simulcast of the rally this afternoon on Comedy Central?
There was a lot of great music, a lot of skits(although they seemed kind of lame to me considering the writing staff involved) and jokes, after all people this was produced by COMEDIANS, BUT
The most inspiring part of the simulcast was when Jon Stewart made the speech at the end.
I can't qoute exact parts, but the overall message was all the hate and vitriol that has became the American political scene is manufactured, both on the right and the left. And the "people" that disagree bitterly on issues STILL for the most part manage to live side by side and make accomplishments in their lives.
The ones who can't seem to get anything done are the politicians.
He used as an example complete with large screens and a live shot of vehicles which travel in Washington D.C. from a 6 lane highway to a single lane tunnel. He made the statement that in the vehicles it would be probably correct to assume that some were democrats, some republicans, some tea partiers, some non political, some Muslim, some Christian, well you get the point. But the real story were each of these labels actually was attached to a PERSON who might be for example: although a Republican Muslim may be gay, or although a Jewish Democrat may be in the NRA. I know I am not making the point as well as he and I highly recommend watching the rally on Comedy Central if they have a rerun. What I took from this comparison was even with all the labeling that is going on in this country, either manufactured or self avowed, Americans still are able to live and work side by side and for the most part should be able to coexist. And then he pointed out that on this massive parking lot of a Washington traffic jam, through cooperation each individual vehicle DID make it through the tunnel.
That brings me to my part on this. I have been guilty being caught up in this labeling and let it create animosity at those who state opinions different from my beliefs. I have almost developed personal hatred for a SCREENNAME! There is a person behind this and in the cyber world it is easy to forget that these post represent actual thought. After reading through a multitude of posts, I think this sort of thing is rampant and I for one will no longer participate. Let's face it folks, for all the barbs, name calling, provenance, lofty ideas and "gotcha" comebacks we have obviously delighted making in spending time typing on here, just what has actually been accomplished on this forum? NOTHING! Whose position or political affiliation has actually been changed? NOBODY! Just a vehicle to bash each others political ideas and unfortunately becoming one to spew hate. Call this a clarion moment, but I for one don't want to participate in this type of behaviour anymore. Once again, I do apologize for the mean spirited words I have typed at individuals, I cannot and will not apologize for my positions or my political views and opinions, but I will not participate in futile efforts to bolster them in print. I am not a paid journalist.(yet) What ever happens from this point on in politics, I for one realize that there is no need to bash someone who doesn't think as I do and the only real statement that a citizen can make that is worthwhile is in the voting booth.
Did anyone happen to watch the simulcast of the rally this afternoon on Comedy Central?
There was a lot of great music, a lot of skits(although they seemed kind of lame to me considering the writing staff involved) and jokes, after all people this was produced by COMEDIANS, BUT
The most inspiring part of the simulcast was when Jon Stewart made the speech at the end.
I can't qoute exact parts, but the overall message was all the hate and vitriol that has became the American political scene is manufactured, both on the right and the left. And the "people" that disagree bitterly on issues STILL for the most part manage to live side by side and make accomplishments in their lives.
The ones who can't seem to get anything done are the politicians.
He used as an example complete with large screens and a live shot of vehicles which travel in Washington D.C. from a 6 lane highway to a single lane tunnel. He made the statement that in the vehicles it would be probably correct to assume that some were democrats, some republicans, some tea partiers, some non political, some Muslim, some Christian, well you get the point. But the real story were each of these labels actually was attached to a PERSON who might be for example: although a Republican Muslim may be gay, or although a Jewish Democrat may be in the NRA. I know I am not making the point as well as he and I highly recommend watching the rally on Comedy Central if they have a rerun. What I took from this comparison was even with all the labeling that is going on in this country, either manufactured or self avowed, Americans still are able to live and work side by side and for the most part should be able to coexist. And then he pointed out that on this massive parking lot of a Washington traffic jam, through cooperation each individual vehicle DID make it through the tunnel.
That brings me to my part on this. I have been guilty being caught up in this labeling and let it create animosity at those who state opinions different from my beliefs. I have almost developed personal hatred for a SCREENNAME! There is a person behind this and in the cyber world it is easy to forget that these post represent actual thought. After reading through a multitude of posts, I think this sort of thing is rampant and I for one will no longer participate. Let's face it folks, for all the barbs, name calling, provenance, lofty ideas and "gotcha" comebacks we have obviously delighted making in spending time typing on here, just what has actually been accomplished on this forum? NOTHING! Whose position or political affiliation has actually been changed? NOBODY! Just a vehicle to bash each others political ideas and unfortunately becoming one to spew hate. Call this a clarion moment, but I for one don't want to participate in this type of behaviour anymore. Once again, I do apologize for the mean spirited words I have typed at individuals, I cannot and will not apologize for my positions or my political views and opinions, but I will not participate in futile efforts to bolster them in print. I am not a paid journalist.(yet) What ever happens from this point on in politics, I for one realize that there is no need to bash someone who doesn't think as I do and the only real statement that a citizen can make that is worthwhile is in the voting booth.
quote:Originally posted by b50m:
1. You are wrong. Estimates of the comedy rally is 150,000.
2. Beck had 500,000.
3. Beck honored soldiers, I guess you would call that hate.
4. Sharpton had 3000.
wrong B, beck "said" he had 500000, but 'real-life' estimates are between 75000-80000; the 'real-life estimates for todays rally were 175000-190000. in glenn becks math there would have been 1.25 million there today. (remember that beck has said himself that he is NOT a news reporter and will lie to get his opinion across).
quote:Originally posted by CageTheElephant:quote:i am wondering if it worries the conservatives that over twice as many people attended todays rally than attended becks rally for hate?
I don't watch/listen to Beck, nor any of the other so called conservative voices. Same goes for the liberal mouths. I do, however, investigate what I hear, see on the news, and posted here. I have been around long enough, and seen the political "machine" at play, to decide for myself along what I feel strongly about. That's one of the reasons I laugh at the BS coming from you guys, as well as some from the right.
Take your statement for instance. Anyone who researched Becks event, both from right and left media, and then the independents, would know that it was not about "hate". Look that word up if you need to.
I would hope that you worded it that way for a "reaction" because I really don't think you are ignorant.
Now as for Juan...
you dont feel that a rally that is anti-gay, anti-black, anti-any religion other than christianity is a rally of hate?
I didn't read any "hate" in any of the many articles I researched.
Now, had there been talk of lynchings...
Now, had there been talk of lynchings...
quote:Originally posted by tcf531:quote:Originally posted by CageTheElephant:quote:i am wondering if it worries the conservatives that over twice as many people attended todays rally than attended becks rally for hate?
I don't watch/listen to Beck, nor any of the other so called conservative voices. Same goes for the liberal mouths. I do, however, investigate what I hear, see on the news, and posted here. I have been around long enough, and seen the political "machine" at play, to decide for myself along what I feel strongly about. That's one of the reasons I laugh at the BS coming from you guys, as well as some from the right.
Take your statement for instance. Anyone who researched Becks event, both from right and left media, and then the independents, would know that it was not about "hate". Look that word up if you need to.
I would hope that you worded it that way for a "reaction" because I really don't think you are ignorant.
Now as for Juan...
you dont feel that a rally that is anti-gay, anti-black, anti-any religion other than christianity is a rally of hate?
No, and I'll type this slow so maybe liberals can understand: You can disagree with someone without hating them.
Thank you, Rocky. I think you're right that we are not changing any minds by posting here. That is why I don't post much on the religion forum anymore either. The only one who can change the way a person thinks is that person. I guess the reason I continue to post here is that I am trying to understand how a large chunk of America thinks.
quote:Originally posted by tcf531:quote:Originally posted by b50m:
1. You are wrong. Estimates of the comedy rally is 150,000.
2. Beck had 500,000.
3. Beck honored soldiers, I guess you would call that hate.
4. Sharpton had 3000.
wrong B, beck "said" he had 500000, but 'real-life' estimates are between 75000-80000; the 'real-life estimates for todays rally were 175000-190000. in glenn becks math there would have been 1.25 million there today. (remember that beck has said himself that he is NOT a news reporter and will lie to get his opinion across).
Sorry tc,
I have seen the pictures and that low estimate was from CBS playing down the crowd size. Pictures show the place much more crowded than at the sanity rally.
From CSMonitor:
Domenico Montanaro, an NBC News off-air political reporter, tweeted Saturday that a Parks Service official said there were probably 300,000 to 325,000 in attendance (even though the Parks Service wasn't officially counting). The New York Times cited NBC News' estimate of 300,000, and the Drudge Report amplified the tally even more.
On Monday, MSNBC host Joe Scarborough repeated 500,000 several times during "Morning Joe." (That's the number organizers of the event gave to The Upshot on Saturday.) Beck said Monday that he didn't think there were a million people there as some have claimed.
It's doubtful there will be a consensus any time soon. Most likely, Beck fans will cite the organizer's numbers in the half-million-or-more range. Critics might go with CBS's estimate. But those who attended the rally, or who watched it on television, may simply go with their own personal, unscientific estimate rather than the numbers furnished by either media reports or organizers.
Republican U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann told supporters shortly after the rally that "we're not going to let anyone get away with saying there were less than a million here today — because we were witnesses."
(Photo of the Beck rally: AP/ Jacquelyn Martin)
quote:Originally posted by b50m:
1. You are wrong. Estimates of the comedy rally is 150,000.
2. Beck had 500,000.
3. Beck honored soldiers, I guess you would call that hate.
4. Sharpton had 3000.
Actually, NO. Beck claims he had 500,000 people. There was an company hired that specializes in taking arial photos, anylizing them and making estimates. This company was hired by CBS. According to them there were 87,000 people give or take 9,000. This falls right in line with other estimates made by the parks and recreation services and the DC fire department. The same company was hired by CBS for the Sanity Rally, but they have not released their results. Nor has the fire department. The estimates of 150,000-250,000 people at the sanity rally were based on estimated made by the Myth Busters where they had everyone do the wave and jump. However, I can tell you that it wasn't just the mall that was full. The side streets were also packed with people who couldn't even get to the mall. One thing is sure, they underestimated for their permit.
quote:Originally posted by True-Blue:quote:Originally posted by b50m:
1. You are wrong. Estimates of the comedy rally is 150,000.
2. Beck had 500,000.
3. Beck honored soldiers, I guess you would call that hate.
4. Sharpton had 3000.
Actually, NO. Beck claims he had 500,000 people. There was an company hired that specializes in taking arial photos, anylizing them and making estimates. This company was hired by CBS. According to them there were 87,000 people give or take 9,000. This falls right in line with other estimates made by the parks and recreation services and the DC fire department. The same company was hired by CBS for the Sanity Rally, but they have not released their results. Nor has the fire department. The estimates of 150,000-250,000 people at the sanity rally were based on estimated made by the Myth Busters where they had everyone do the wave and jump. However, I can tell you that it wasn't just the mall that was full. The side streets were also packed with people who couldn't even get to the mall. One thing is sure, they underestimated for their permit.
Sooo... what you're saying is that there are more idiotic kool-aide slurping pinheads with very lax responsibilities, or with a totally skewed sense of participatory responsibility than anyone imagined... Now THAT makes for a scary Halloween weekend.... I wonder if you listened very closely during the "rally" could you hear the chant, "One of us, one of us, gooble gobble..."? If not you probably needed more Kool-aide...
For your consideration: The closing remarks from Jon Stewart at The Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avZkM5JDP20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avZkM5JDP20
quote:Originally posted by tcf531:
i am wondering if it worries the conservatives that over twice as many people attended todays rally than attended becks rally for hate?
It doesn't worry me at all. Just curious, where did you get your info? I actually tried to watch parts of the rally Saturday. Not only do these guys no very little about politics, they're not even good comedians.