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The second amendment gives people the right to keep and bear arms. Some states, Alabama and Tennessee among them, passed laws allowing open carry. I am not disputing the right to have a gun and to carry it open. Also, if you're going to carry for protection, it will be loaded and ready for use.

Recently, I went into an auto parts store and a man was there with his pistol on his hip. I assume it was loaded and ready to use. He had it in some type holster that was composed of a couple of straps and the barrel was sticking straight out the back. I suppose it was for a cross draw. Anyway, for me to get to the counter, I had to walk past the open end of the gun. Again, I'm not debating his right to own it and carry it.  What I am concerned with is, I think I have the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. By him carrying the gun with the barrel sticking out the behind him, he was subject to taking life, liberty and pursuit of happiness away from someone.  Why not pass a law requiring open carry to have the barrel pointed down? That would solve the problem.

 

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

The second amendment gives people the right to keep and bear arms. Some states, Alabama and Tennessee among them, passed laws allowing open carry. I am not disputing the right to have a gun and to carry it open. Also, if you're going to carry for protection, it will be loaded and ready for use.

Recently, I went into an auto parts store and a man was there with his pistol on his hip. I assume it was loaded and ready to use. He had it in some type holster that was composed of a couple of straps and the barrel was sticking straight out the back. I suppose it was for a cross draw. Anyway, for me to get to the counter, I had to walk past the open end of the gun. Again, I'm not debating his right to own it and carry it.  What I am concerned with is, I think I have the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. By him carrying the gun with the barrel sticking out the behind him, he was subject to taking life, liberty and pursuit of happiness away from someone.  Why not pass a law requiring open carry to have the barrel pointed down? That would solve the problem.

 


I've never seen anyone open carry that way except for undercover law enforcement and they typically have a jacket on over that type of holster.  I don't open carry and never will, it just makes you a target and the center of attention, neither of which appeal to myself.  I agree, he needs to have the muzzle pointed down. 

 

 hoobsez I've never seen anyone open carry that way except for undercover law enforcement and they typically have a jacket on over that type of holster.  I don't open carry and never will, it just makes you a target and the center of attention, neither of which appeal to myself.  I agree, he needs to have the muzzle pointed down. 

 

like I said hoob; the guy was one of you loose canni

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You know you have to pull the trigger for the bullet to come out right?

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Glad to learn that. It must be a modern thing, in the past, I've heard of guns firing unexpectantly.

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A few years ago, behind the Lawrence county, Tn courthouse, I saw another guy carrying with the barrel pointed out behind him. He was wearing camo, I think he was a deputy and part of the search and destroy on pot, and he got real huffy when I asked him to point that thing somewhere else.

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I've seen some guys wearing a gun on their hip.  They were not law enforcement officers.  I'm not too worried about the gun on their hip.  Its just a way for them to say," Hey, look at me.  I'm cool!  I have a gun.  There's nothing you can do about it."   And they will be the first one to be targeted if anything happens.  Because, hey, we can see they have a gun.  Concealed carry is the better option.  No one knows you're dangerous.

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

The second amendment gives people the right to keep and bear arms. Some states, Alabama and Tennessee among them, passed laws allowing open carry. I am not disputing the right to have a gun and to carry it open. Also, if you're going to carry for protection, it will be loaded and ready for use.

Recently, I went into an auto parts store and a man was there with his pistol on his hip. I assume it was loaded and ready to use. He had it in some type holster that was composed of a couple of straps and the barrel was sticking straight out the back. I suppose it was for a cross draw. Anyway, for me to get to the counter, I had to walk past the open end of the gun. Again, I'm not debating his right to own it and carry it.  What I am concerned with is, I think I have the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. By him carrying the gun with the barrel sticking out the behind him, he was subject to taking life, liberty and pursuit of happiness away from someone.  Why not pass a law requiring open carry to have the barrel pointed down? That would solve the problem.

 

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No way to "like" the opening post, so I bumped it.

 

Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.  Firearms safety 101.

 

I can never recall even a photograph appearing in an article in the NRA magazine "American Rifleman" which depicts a firearm pointed directly at the reader.

 

In some states, they have a "Careless Operation of Motor Vehicle" statue commonly called a HUA [head up arse] violation.  Though I think we have plenty of gun laws, I think one regarding safety would be not only warranted but actually enforceable.  But it would only apply to "open" carry only obviously.

 

Does anyone know when Alabama became an "open" carry state?  I presumed it always was.  I'm aware of laws pertaining to "concealed" carry i.e. to allow honest citizens to carry handguns legally as criminals have done illegally as they always have.

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Originally Posted by CountryBoy:

 hoobsez I've never seen anyone open carry that way except for undercover law enforcement and they typically have a jacket on over that type of holster.  I don't open carry and never will, it just makes you a target and the center of attention, neither of which appeal to myself.  I agree, he needs to have the muzzle pointed down. 

 

like I said hoob; the guy was one of you loose canni


Odds are, he's one of your union brothers.

Originally Posted by HIFLYER2:

I agree muzzle always in a safe direction.  They have banned shoulder holsters from one gun range I go too because people were killed when a guy was trying to reholster his weapon.

 

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I'm flat out amazed that hasn't happened more often.  Of course, we hardly if ever hear about AD's where injury does not occur.

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by CountryBoy:

 hoobsez I've never seen anyone open carry that way except for undercover law enforcement and they typically have a jacket on over that type of holster.  I don't open carry and never will, it just makes you a target and the center of attention, neither of which appeal to myself.  I agree, he needs to have the muzzle pointed down. 

 

like I said hoob; the guy was one of you loose canni


Odds are, he's one of your union brothers.

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Please explain what you think open carry has to do with Union membership  !!

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Originally Posted by dilligaff:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by CountryBoy:

 hoobsez I've never seen anyone open carry that way except for undercover law enforcement and they typically have a jacket on over that type of holster.  I don't open carry and never will, it just makes you a target and the center of attention, neither of which appeal to myself.  I agree, he needs to have the muzzle pointed down. 

 

like I said hoob; the guy was one of you loose canni


Odds are, he's one of your union brothers.

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Please explain what you think open carry has to do with Union membership  !!


If being an NRA member makes my kind loose "canni", then union membership must make someone a thug.  Quaildogs logic, not mine.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by dilligaff:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by CountryBoy:

 hoobsez I've never seen anyone open carry that way except for undercover law enforcement and they typically have a jacket on over that type of holster.  I don't open carry and never will, it just makes you a target and the center of attention, neither of which appeal to myself.  I agree, he needs to have the muzzle pointed down. 

 

like I said hoob; the guy was one of you loose canni


Odds are, he's one of your union brothers.

______________________________________________________________________________

Please explain what you think open carry has to do with Union membership  !!


If being an NRA member makes my kind loose "canni", then union membership must make someone a thug.  Quaildogs logic, not mine.

from what I've read qdog was very logical. you seem to think the NRA is some reputable group.

wrong, they are nothing more than magazine salesman getting a monthly check from goobers that are a menace to legitimate gun owners. the guy you say was probably bending over in the produce flirting with you. i'll bet you see a lot of barrels pointing backward when you and dire are out at night.

Originally Posted by CountryBoy:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by dilligaff:
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by CountryBoy:

 hoobsez I've never seen anyone open carry that way except for undercover law enforcement and they typically have a jacket on over that type of holster.  I don't open carry and never will, it just makes you a target and the center of attention, neither of which appeal to myself.  I agree, he needs to have the muzzle pointed down. 

 

like I said hoob; the guy was one of you loose canni


Odds are, he's one of your union brothers.

______________________________________________________________________________

Please explain what you think open carry has to do with Union membership  !!


If being an NRA member makes my kind loose "canni", then union membership must make someone a thug.  Quaildogs logic, not mine.

from what I've read qdog was very logical. you seem to think the NRA is some reputable group.

wrong, they are nothing more than magazine salesman getting a monthly check from goobers that are a menace to legitimate gun owners. the guy you say was probably bending over in the produce flirting with you. i'll bet you see a lot of barrels pointing backward when you and dire are out at night.

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Sybil, still up the river of denial concerning your multiple personalities, are y'all 

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

If being an NRA member makes my kind loose "canni", then union membership must make someone a thug.  Quaildogs logic, not mine.

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That's one of the dumbest things I have ever saw posted.



That just means you're not proof reading your own posts.  You'll be amazed at the amount of stupidity you post on a daily basis.

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

That just means you're not proof reading your own posts.  You'll be amazed at the amount of stupidity you post on a daily basis.

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I'm just trying to catch up with you, I feel it's hopeless.


I'll give you this much, you're twice as smart as ol' Crash.  However, that only makes you half as smart as a rock.

I doubt that there is anyone that is more of a fan of the 2nd Amendment than I am but if there's anything out there that scares me more than the gun grabbers, it's dumb***es with guns. I would have confronted the guy and told him to point the barrel down, if he would have argued about it then I would have told him to do it before I do it for him. As for for people who open carry, that's not a wise option in most cases. If I were the criminal type and was going to mug or rob someone in a  and I saw someone carrying then they would likely be my target as I would know what I was dealing with and figure that it would not be too difficult to disarm them and even if they didn't have anything else to take, I could sell their gun. With all the above said, firearms education and training is very important. I am a staunch believer in the right to keep and bear arms but with that right comes a responsibility for the safety of others.

Originally Posted by BFred07:

.... If I were the criminal type and was going to mug or rob someone in a  and I saw someone carrying then they would likely be my target......

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the above 'snippet' is what i've been saying all along... the next thing we'll here is 'they're gonna take our guns.' why don't 'open carry' people understand, they might as well be painting a bulls-eye on their chest.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:
Originally Posted by BFred07:

.... If I were the criminal type and was going to mug or rob someone in a  and I saw someone carrying then they would likely be my target......

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the above 'snippet' is what i've been saying all along... the next thing we'll here is 'they're gonna take our guns.' why don't 'open carry' people understand, they might as well be painting a bulls-eye on their chest.

 

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only to be shot in the back.

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Wonder how people ever made it when everyone 'open carried'.

 

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Some didn't.  Like Wild Bill.  Shot in the back.  Like Jessie [though unarmed at the time].  Shot in the back.

 

Poncho was a bandit boy

His horse was fast as polished steel

He wore his gun outside his pants

For all the honest world to feel

 

 

Poncho met his match, you know

On the deserts down in Mexico

Nobody heard his dyin' word

But that's the way it goes


Read more:  Merle Haggard - Poncho And Lefty Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Wonder how people ever made it when everyone 'open carried'.

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An honest question, "was open carry, in towns in the wild west widely practiced?"

 

When I was a little boy, my grandfather would carry me to the drug store when he went to visit some of his buddies. No one open carried, a lot of them had little "pocket pistols". I think they were 25 caliber and had about a 4 or 5 bullet capacity. 

 

Last edited by jtdavis
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Wonder how people ever made it when everyone 'open carried'.

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An honest question, "was open carry, in towns in the wild west widely practiced?"

 

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Hers are the FACTS on "open carry" in the Wild American West."

 

http://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~rc...cholarship/guns.html

 

Apparently there were not all that many cowboys whining about the constraints on going about armed back then and demanding their "Second Amendment Rights."

 

Notice how they always mention Tombstone, which was the outlier for such gun control.  Mainly to keep the rowdy cowboys from shooting up the place after being paid. 

 

Go to upstate NY, to Ogdensburg, then view the photos, paintings and bronze sculptures taken from life/  Then, get back to me. 

 

Also, see how poor the area is -- decades of Democrat rule.  There is a fortune in oil and NG under the ground. 

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