Kate, did you grow up w/o a father? Did he abandon you & not care to get to know you? You seem to have a huge problem with this man getting custody of his own child.
There's to many stories of men that aren't in their children's life, doesn't want them, doesn't know them, doesn't visit, doesn't take care of them financially. And here's a man that steps up, that wants his child & all you can do is act like he has no rights to her.
Pitiful!
BTW kate, the statement was that she had no memory of the couple and no interest in getting to know them.
I quickly read the article. The little girl was 2.5 years old, not three. Her biological mother changed her mind after 5 days and married the child's father. Totally different circumstances.
Did the judge make the right decision with "Baby Jessica?" The article goes on to state the adoptive mother has formed an advocacy group and written a book about the experience. It didn't mention the biological parents had done anything of note.
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Yes, they wrote a book, slanted to their side. Means nothing. 2.5 or three, matters not. The parents got the child back, she's happy they did, it ended well. Why should they write a book or form a group?
Kate, did you grow up w/o a father? Did he abandon you & not care to get to know you? You seem to have a huge problem with this man getting custody of his own child.
There's to many stories of men that aren't in their children's life, doesn't want them, doesn't know them, doesn't visit, doesn't take care of them financially. And here's a man that steps up, that wants his child & all you can do is act like he has no rights to her.
Pitiful!
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It seems to go along with that way of thinking that some have, that a man has no say in a child's life-he's only there to pay for their support and go along with whatever the mother wants. And, as in this case, if someone steals their child they're supposed to just shut up and go away.
There's a preview for a movie about a young man with two children whose wife died. I'll have to watch it to see why they didn't make him give up his kids for adoption.
First, Best, normal and intelligent children have memories between the age of 2.5 and 3--not so much before the age of 2.5. So yes it does make a difference; something is wrong if she doesn't remember.
Second, Semi, my father, who was actually married to my mother and to my mother only, raised me and was by my side in all my endeavors until he passed away. That's something I'm not seeing with the good sergeant. I wonder how many "aunties" this child will have before she graduates from high school?
BTW, my father had planned a career in the military, but left when his mother was diagnosed with cancer. He had his priorities straight.
Gosh, there shouldn't have even been a brady's bunch. Those six kids should have been adopted out as soon as the spouses died.
That's something I'm not seeing with the good sergeant. I wonder how many "aunties" this child will have before she graduates from high school?
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You shouldn't be "seeing" anything in the good sergeant because you don't know squat about him. He has been fighting for his daughter for two years, ever since he found out the mom didn't abort her. You're trying to penalize him for what was done to him by the ex-wife and these two that took his daughter KNOWING he hadn't been informed or given permission. You have no information or proof that he won't be an excellent father, or that the adoptive parents wouldn't have been awful. What's it to YOU how many "aunties" she has? Your true colors are coming out now. What gives you the right to even make that snarky remark?
First, Best, normal and intelligent children have memories between the age of 2.5 and 3--not so much before the age of 2.5. So yes it does make a difference; something is wrong if she doesn't remember.
Second, Semi, my father, who was actually married to my mother and to my mother only, raised me and was by my side in all my endeavors until he passed away. That's something I'm not seeing with the good sergeant. I wonder how many "aunties" this child will have before she graduates from high school?
BTW, my father had planned a career in the military, but left when his mother was diagnosed with cancer. He had his priorities straight.
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I don't remember anything from when I was 2 1/2 - 3 years old. I suppose I'm not normal & intelligent?
What makes you think this man doesn't have his priorities straight? Wow! You really have some serious issues, Kate.
This past week-end, the father was finally reunited with the little girl, following a nearly two-year battle to get her back.
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?s...r&s_cid=queue-16
The first article said the Freis said they tracked down Achane "several months" after adopting the baby, but he refused to consent to the adoption. Why would they wait until after the adoption to find the father?
They should be in deep doo doo.
It's not HIS fault he lost those two years, and how you can think repeating that has any bearing is beyond me. It's the people's fault that stole his child. He's been fighting for her for those two years. He got custody-good outcome, happy for him.
So true, I am glad that he got his little girl back.
First, why didn't he try to stop the abortion?
Second, no LAL, you said the parents weren't real--that the child wasn't really theirs. They look pretty real to me. They look real enough to have changed her diapers for two years. To have fed and clothed her. Yet, you don't consider them real? Do you just hate all adopted children? Should we take them out and shoot them? Just asking...
Could it be because they have a different color skin? I'm asking because from looking at the picture, they seem more than real--they seem caring and loving and can offer the child much more than this biological father.
A few years ago there was a topic that stayed on here forever! About 60% of the posters thought a teenage boy should have custody of a child he had fathered (read: donated sperm). Over the years I've read in the TD and local blogs how this little hoodlum has been arrested over and over and is now going to prison. Funny all his supporters disappeared after calling him the little boy's "real" father.
Please if he did you would be screaming your liberal head off about the father has no rights in the matter and it's only the woman's decision.
First, why didn't he try to stop the abortion?
Second, no LAL, you said the parents weren't real--that the child wasn't really theirs. They look pretty real to me. They look real enough to have changed her diapers for two years. To have fed and clothed her. Yet, you don't consider them real? Do you just hate all adopted children? Should we take them out and shoot them? Just asking...
Could it be because they have a different color skin? I'm asking because from looking at the picture, they seem more than real--they seem caring and loving and can offer the child much more than this biological father.
A few years ago there was a topic that stayed on here forever! About 60% of the posters thought a teenage boy should have custody of a child he had fathered (read: donated sperm). Over the years I've read in the TD and local blogs how this little hoodlum has been arrested over and over and is now going to prison. Funny all his supporters disappeared after calling him the little boy's "real" father.
I believe that things turned out like it was supposed to. You seem to have a problem about men and them raising children. I never said that the people were not real. I can see and I am not that stupid. As far as the man being black has nothing to do with the fact that he is a father and he wanted his daughter with him. If you have a problem at how I express myself and not taking the words like they were meant, then deal with it. They put 2.5 years raising that child and look like they had a handful of others. But I bet that you will not hear them complaining about it. There are men that stay at home an raise there children while there wife works. Are these people adoptive parents or foster parents. If they are foster parents then they get paid for keeping those kids. And I said IF so be sure and read it right. So EKMN, tell the story of why you find it so hare to accept this man getting his daughter back. Is it because he black. As far as adoption, I have no problem with it, I do not like the foster homes for I have heard a lot of stories about them. Private adoption is the best way to place a child where it will not have to go from foster home to foster home. Wouldn't you agree dear or are you against that also. Taking exercise will help on the stress part, but I do not know about the attitude.
Hiflyer, I'm not liberal at all. I vote Republican and consider myself to the right politically. Abortion should never be a form of birth control for anyone's convenience.
Semi, I remember the Halloween I was two and my third b'day and much more. If you don't, don't sweat it. No two people are alike, but most of my friends also have early memory.
Best, neither you nor I can predict what will happen to the child. Rest assured I will follow it. True colors because I think the sergeant will have girlfriends? Hmmmm....
You're accusing the adopting family of lying. I'm taking them at their word. I'm also taking the sergeant at his word. That's why I'm more objective than you.
That's why I said in my original post that it was sad for both sides. Do you automatically consider all adoptive parents liars? The adoptive family have proved themselves. The sergeant has yet to do so. We shall see. I'm sure the little girl will deserve her own Wiki entry just as "Baby Jessica" does in a few years.
LAL, if you had read the article you would see the parents are adoptive not foster. There seems to be a trend on here to think anyone adopting is after money (Remember the Jenkins family?).
BTW, there is really no such thing as a private adoption in the sense that the state is not involved. It always gives a report to family court. I'm assuming the adoption agency used here was "private" and possibly Mormon. No, I'm not Mormon, but those of that religion do have strong family values.
And, LAL, attitude? You're the one who first used the word "Real." I'm so glad to know most people are not like you and consider adoptive families real. Kudos to those parents who choose to have a child--not just because it gives them more welfare money.
Semi, I remember the Halloween I was two and my third b'day and much more. If you don't, don't sweat it. No two people are alike, but most of my friends also have early memory.
True colors because I think the sergeant will have girlfriends? Hmmmm....
The adoptive family have proved themselves.________
I don't intend to sweat it. I just don't appreciate a nut case telling me I'm not normal & intelligent.
So a single Mom or Dad can't have boyfriends or girlfriends? I need to tell my friend that so he can get a divorce. He dated, & remarried 4 years after his wife died. His 3 children loved their step-mother & she loved them. I guess none of them knew they weren't supposed to do that.
Yep, the adoptive family proved themselves alright. They adopted a baby knowing the Father didn't give his consent. Real upstanding folks, aren't they?
This is from the Frei blog--of course they could be consummate liars, but somehow I doubt it:
Leah’s birth mother, Tira, was married and living in Texas in 2010. She was trying to hold her marriage together, but in her seventh month of pregnancy, her husband left her without any money, a car, or details of his whereabouts.
Over the last 19 months, despite the law requiring that a father show interest in his child and at least attempt regular communication to establish a bond, the father has never shown any interest in Leah other than to hire an attorney. He has never sent her clothes or toys, or even a gift on Christmas or her birthday. He’s never inquired into her health and well-being, or other details like when she started crawling, walking, talking, or cutting her first tooth. In short, he hasn’t shown any of the natural affection or interest of a parent.
LAL, if you had read the article you would see the parents are adoptive not foster. There seems to be a trend on here to think anyone adopting is after money (Remember the Jenkins family?).
BTW, there is really no such thing as a private adoption in the sense that the state is not involved. It always gives a report to family court. I'm assuming the adoption agency used here was "private" and possibly Mormon. No, I'm not Mormon, but those of that religion do have strong family values.
And, LAL, attitude? You're the one who first used the word "Real." I'm so glad to know most people are not like you and consider adoptive families real. Kudos to those parents who choose to have a child--not just because it gives them more welfare money.
Yes, I said real father, meaning the one that help conceive her. I did not say that the adoptive parent were not real. That is what you got out of it. I have known of people making their living at being a foster parent. Living with your head in the clouds is not good. Look at the real world. Do not judge me and call me names when you do not know me. I am just going to be happy for the father and daughter and hope that they have a happy life. You know, you seam to have a problem with the word real. To me that is her real father and she is his real daughter. Yes, the family that adopted her are real adoptive people. If you cannot deal with what I said, then get off my case. i will comment how ever I please and I said REAL because that is what they are. You know REAL like in REAL PEOPLE, not a figment of your imagination. 
From Wiki:
The use of the term "real" implies that the adoptive family is artificial, and is not as descriptive.
From "Adoptive Parents = Real Parents":
"They're not your real parents!"
The little girl's words were not meant to hurt. At 8, she was struggling to understand her own adoption. But our adopted son was hearing these w ords for the first time, at the age of 5. And he was devastated.
For weeks, Mark could not bring himself to share the incident, nor his pain, with us. What terrible thing might happen if he did? His behavior showed he was troubled, but even when he came to our room at night complaining of monsters, he could not speak of his underlying fears.
One evening, as he lay with his head on my lap, with my hand stroking his forehead, Mark broke into sobs and burst out with his terrible discovery: "Becky says you're not my real parents!"
I hugged and reassured him. He had known for a long time that he was adopted and that this meant his "first parents" could not take care of him. He knew that we had become his "forever parents" because we were able to provide food and toys and clothes, and because we very much wanted a little boy like him. As a social worker in adoption, I had read all about "telling" and had thought that our explanations had covered all the bases.
But we had never dealt with the question of "real" parentage. It simply had not occurred to us that other children would openly assert that "forever parents" were not real parents. Yet this has happened to Mark at least three times in the years he has been in school.
Mark knows what to answer now: "Yes, they are my real parents," he will insist, "because they are the ones who are bringing me up." If the other child persists, he will say, "You're confused about that!"
Kate, Kate, Kate...I don't know where you got the idea that single parents cannot serve in the military. As long as they show they provide care for their child while carrying out their duties they can serve. A lot has changed in the military since Obama took office. This Dad can in fact hire a live-in nanny and live off base in some cases on base. It has always been the case that only the spouse, children, or dependant parents could live on base, that is no longer true, I recently learned of a situation where a young man has his sister living on base with him.
For some reason kate just got a hate on a man because he fought for his child. No, no one knows the outcome. Time will tell, but as it is now, I am glad that the REAL father has the child, she's going to her REAL family, and will be meeting her REAL grandmother.
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And yes, I think the fries lied. The judge seemed to think they lied too.
The Fries attorney, Lance Rich, said afterward that it is a painful time for the couple and that they are asking for privacy.
Yep, they want privacy, that's why they're on face book begging for money.
"The Freis' focus and concern at this time are to enable her to make a successful transition to her father," said Rich.
Then they need to shut up and move on, leave the man alone. They've made his life hell for two years now.
The Freis have said previously that Achane abandoned his wife before the girl's birth and has done nothing to build a relationship with the toddler.
Abandoned? Try transferred. Done nothing to build a relationship with his daughter? Try two years of trying to get her back from people who had no business having her in the first place.
For some reason kate just got a hate on a man because he fought for his child. No, no one knows the outcome. Time will tell, but as it is now, I am glad that the REAL father has the child, she's going to her REAL family, and will be meeting her REAL grandmother.
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And yes, I think the fries lied. The judge seemed to think they lied too.
Good job, Bestworking, Thanks for the info.
From Wiki:
The use of the term "real" implies that the adoptive family is artificial, and is not as descriptive.
From "Adoptive Parents = Real Parents":
"They're not your real parents!"
The little girl's words were not meant to hurt. At 8, she was struggling to understand her own adoption. But our adopted son was hearing these w ords for the first time, at the age of 5. And he was devastated.
For weeks, Mark could not bring himself to share the incident, nor his pain, with us. What terrible thing might happen if he did? His behavior showed he was troubled, but even when he came to our room at night complaining of monsters, he could not speak of his underlying fears.
One evening, as he lay with his head on my lap, with my hand stroking his forehead, Mark broke into sobs and burst out with his terrible discovery: "Becky says you're not my real parents!"
I hugged and reassured him. He had known for a long time that he was adopted and that this meant his "first parents" could not take care of him. He knew that we had become his "forever parents" because we were able to provide food and toys and clothes, and because we very much wanted a little boy like him. As a social worker in adoption, I had read all about "telling" and had thought that our explanations had covered all the bases.
But we had never dealt with the question of "real" parentage. It simply had not occurred to us that other children would openly assert that "forever parents" were not real parents. Yet this has happened to Mark at least three times in the years he has been in school.
Mark knows what to answer now: "Yes, they are my real parents," he will insist, "because they are the ones who are bringing me up." If the other child persists, he will say, "You're confused about that!"
NO, i AM NOT CONFUSED ABOUT THE REAL ADOPTIVE PARENTS OR THE READ FATHER. YOU COLOMBO NEEDS TO GET OUT OF YOUR STORY LAND WORLD AND GET INTO THE REAL WORLD. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT YOU HAVE PROBLEMS ABOUT THIS MAN GETTING HIS DAUGHTER. I KNOW WHAT I SAID, I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO GET OFF THE SUBJECT OF THE WORD REAL. GET OVER IT, PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK OF HEARING YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE WORD R-E-A-L. NOW IS THE TIME TO JUST BE HAPPY FOR THE MAN AND HIS DAUGHTER. THE ADOPTIVE PARENTS NEEDS TO LEAVE THEM ALONE AND LIVE THEIR LIVES. BESTWORKING HAS CLEARED IT UP FOR YOU AND MADE IT VERY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND. READ IT, LEARN FROM IT, AND UNDERSTAND IT AND THEN GET OFF IT.
Kate, Kate, Kate...I don't know where you got the idea that single parents cannot serve in the military. As long as they show they provide care for their child while carrying out their duties they can serve. A lot has changed in the military since Obama took office. This Dad can in fact hire a live-in nanny and live off base in some cases on base. It has always been the case that only the spouse, children, or dependant parents could live on base, that is no longer true, I recently learned of a situation where a young man has his sister living on base with him.
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Ms. Wonka, the article I linked had to do with new enlistees; however, it also mentioned how hard it is for single parents to make it in the military. I believe Best is the one who keeps attributing the "can't serve." I did say, and do believe, the little girl will see little of the sergeant while he's in the military.
From Best: For some reason kate just got a hate on a man because he fought for his child. No, no one knows the outcome. Time will tell, but as it is now, I am glad that the REAL father has the child, she's going to her REAL family, and will be meeting her REAL grandmother.
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Best, if you look at my original post, I simply said it was sad for both sides. Anything said after that was in rebuttal to how awful the adoptive parents are, in your words.
And asking for money? Wouldn't you ask for money is someone came along and tried to take your child? No? You'd just say, "Oh, the hospital made a mistake, so so sure take the child." You know you wouldn't. Yet you don't seem in any way sad or feeling for these parents--and they say the good sergeant has never even given his child a single gift or even asked about her. How do you reconcile that with being a "real" parent?
Anything said after that was in rebuttal to how awful the adoptive parents are, in your words.
Show me the post where I said adoptive parents are awful. I said that YOU had jumped in and condemned the man, and without any proof basically stated he would be a bad father, but said how wonderful the couple would be, again without any proof. I said they could be horrible to the child for all you know.
And asking for money? Wouldn't you ask for money is someone came along and tried to take your child?
She's not their child, never was their child.
and they say the good sergeant has never even given his child a single gift or even asked about her. How do you reconcile that with being a "real" parent?
The article states, the judge agrees, the man was stonewalled and not given any information by the adoption agency or the ones that had the child. Send gifts? I have to say that sending gifts would be the least of my worries if I was going after my child that had been stolen. She's a baby, what would she know of gifts, and who's to say she'd have received them? There is time now for him to give her gifts. It was also reported that the couple wouldn't give him the baby's belongings when they turned her over. How's that for a "real" parent?
Really, Best? Where do you get those ideas? From a Utah newspaper:
When the Freis left Teleah with Achane at his hotel in Lehi on Thursday,they brought along clothes, picture books, her three special blankets and other items. Kristi Frei also brought a list of instructions on what Teleah likes to eat, her favorite toys and her bedtime.
I got that "idea" from a news report, and from a face book page that tells people what's going on with the case, and that since the couple didn't bring the child's belongings, anyone that wants to do so can send her things. Now once more, show me where I said that adoptive parents "are awful". BTW, the report and video of the "turn over" shows it was at a courthouse, not a hotel room. Maybe they relented after a backlash against them, who knows.
Yes, that FB page is supposedly run by his atty and Achane only visits it. Oh, and yes it's asking for donations. Is it okay for the sergeant to do that and not the Freis?
I don't know if it was his lawyer that set it up, doesn't matter, anyone has a right to do it. As for them, they have the right to do what they want to do, but they need to be warning people not to do what they did-take someone's child without their permission, and then whine when the court makes them give the child back, after they ACKNOWLEDGED the fact the father might do just that. Once more, show me where I said adoptive parents are awful.
I believe Best is the one who keeps attributing the "can't serve."
Where do I say "can't serve"?
This was YOUR post, not mine:
Once again, I said you attributed this to me. My actual quote: I believe Best is the one who keeps attributing the "can't serve."
If you read the link, which you obviously didn't, you would see it said two things.
1. It's almost impossible for a person who has sole custody of a child to enlist.
2. It's extremely hard for a person to have custody and still be in the military.
The article doesn't say anyone has to leave the military if he/she becomes the sole custodian.
Did you use the word "awful" to describe the Freis? Let's see...I think one of the actual words was "thieves."
Once again, I said you attributed this to me. My actual quote: I believe Best is the one who keeps attributing the "can't serve."
Where?
If you read the link, which you obviously didn't, you would see it said two things.
1. It's almost impossible for a person who has sole custody of a child to enlist.
2. It's extremely hard for a person to have custody and still be in the military.
The article doesn't say anyone has to leave the military if he/she becomes the sole custodian.
I didn't say it did say that. You're the one that kept harping on that, and I have no idea why you want to bring it up. I said he might be out of the service now. I don't know. Then you wanted to talk about "aunties" raising the child. A lot of bull that has nothing to do with anything.
Did you use the word "awful" to describe the Freis? Let's see...I think one of the actual words was "thieves."
You said I called adoptive parents awful, now you're backtracking? Did I call them thieves? I don't think so, could have, I'd have to look, but so what? They did steal the man's child, they did keep him away from the child for almost two years.
Yes, that FB page is supposedly run by his atty and Achane only visits it. Oh, and yes it's asking for donations. Is it okay for the sergeant to do that and not the Freis?
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Once again, I said you attributed this to me. My actual quote: I believe Best is the one who keeps attributing the "can't serve."
Where?
If you read the link, which you obviously didn't, you would see it said two things.
1. It's almost impossible for a person who has sole custody of a child to enlist.
2. It's extremely hard for a person to have custody and still be in the military.
The article doesn't say anyone has to leave the military if he/she becomes the sole custodian.
I didn't say it did say that. You're the one that kept harping on that, and I have no idea why you want to bring it up. I said he might be out of the service now. I don't know. Then you wanted to talk about "aunties" raising the child. A lot of bull that has nothing to do with anything.
Did you use the word "awful" to describe the Freis? Let's see...I think one of the actual words was "thieves."
You said I called adoptive parents awful, now you're backtracking? Did I call them thieves? I don't think so, could have, I'd have to look, but so what? They did steal the man's child, they did keep him away from the child for almost two years.
ALL I GET OUT OF COLOMBO'S COMMENTS IS CONFUSION. SHE SAYS THAT WE SAY THINGS THAT WE DO NOT AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SHE IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO COMMENT ABOUT. SHE IS MAKING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLEHILL. SHE NEEDS TO GET A GRIP AND NOT SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF. COLOMBO, YOU ARE ARGUING MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK THAT WE DO WRONG THAN YOU ARE COMMENTING ON THE SUBJECT. THIS IS DONE, THE FATHER GOT HIS LITTLE GIRL BACK AND I FOR ONE HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY HAVE A HAPPY LIFE TOGETHER.
One of the oddest things about kate's posts was the way she went after the father, basically calling him unfit and unworthy of raising his own child without any proof of his character. I'm sure the freis tried to dig up any dirt on him they could, and it seems like the best they could do is say he didn't send presents. One point too that seems to be forgotten, he started trying to get his child when she was just a few weeks old, and she should have been given to him the first second he asked for her. The blame for those lost two years falls on the freis and the adoption agency, both which, imo, he should sue. There's no way of knowing what her life will be like, just as there is no way to know how it would have been with the freis. And yes kate, he's a young man, so it would be unusual if he didn't have girlfriends and most likely remarry. Again, why should he be any different than any other man or woman that's divorced or widowed and have children? What would have happened too, if the freis had been allowed to keep her? When she was older how would they explain how they kept her away from her father and yes, real family? How would she have felt about them then?
1. I never once called the father unfit. You cannot show me where I even came close to calling him unfit. I did say he will not, unless he leaves the army, be there for the child much of the time.
2. You will notice that in the past few days, videos have shown his ex-wife in the picture. Why? Does she want the child, or does she want her husband back? Watch this space for further development.
3. It's a sad fact of life that in a single parent home, no matter the cause, there will more than likely be a series of aunts/uncles. That's not even saying sex is involved; that's saying new people come and go in the child's life. The child gets attached, and then, poof, the gf or bf is gone forever.
4. It's interesting that Best initiated this topic, for whatever reason, but doesn't seem to appreciate anyone posting the child will suffer because of all this. (Note No. 2--biological mother already back in picture.)
1. I never once called the father unfit. You cannot show me where I even came close to calling him unfit. I did say he will not, unless he leaves the army, be there for the child much of the time.
Basically-meaning-for the most part. Now go back and read all your statements about him.
2. You will notice that in the past few days, videos have shown his ex-wife in the picture. Why? Does she want the child, or does she want her husband back? Watch this space for further development.
Who knows if she wants him back, if he wants her back, if they will get back together.
3. It's a sad fact of life that in a single parent home, no matter the cause, there will more than likely be a series of aunts/uncles. That's not even saying sex is involved; that's saying new people come and go in the child's life. The child gets attached, and then, poof, the gf or bf is gone forever.
Why is it a "sad fact"? People aren't supposed to date or have a sex life because they have children? And why won't you respond to what I said about the freis? There is no guarantee the child would have been better off with them.
4. It's interesting that Best initiated this topic, for whatever reason, but doesn't seem to appreciate anyone posting the child will suffer because of all this. (Note No. 2--biological mother already back in picture.) I haven't seen any videos of the mother being back in the picture. If she is, and he decides to take her back, that's their business.
I posted it because of the very thing I said in the beginning. Too many times men have to go along with what a woman decides to do with their child. If she wants to kill it, he has no say. This time the man didn't sit still for his child being given away and fought for her. Like I posted, it was a good outcome. And why you keep insisting the child will suffer is beyond me. There's no reason for you to assume that. You don't think she would have suffered after she found out they stole her and kept her from her father?
While I have given the sergeant the benefit of the doubt, you have never given the Freis the same. It's your opinion the Frei family are thieves, just as it's my opinion the Frei family was also a victim in all this.
Also, as with the Jenkins case, you have stated what the judge thought (in your opinion). It's my opinion the judge did not consider the Freis thieves, but ruled on a point of law, i.e. the father was lied to about the child by the mother (note: not the adoption agency or the adoptive family).
The judge said in his ruling, however, that the couple knew that Achane had never been consulted and "acknowledged this risk but decided they wanted to proceed forward with the adoptive placement anyway."
Doesn't quite go along with calling them victims.
I guess you call talking about "aunties" and his being in the military, and how the child will suffer now, giving him the benefit of the doubt.
And yes, I said in the jenkins case (that seems to still be stuck in your craw) that since WE (you) had no idea of the facts, but the judge did see the facts/evidence that we-you-had no reason to question his decision.
