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Originally posted by O No!:
OK, fine. First of all, show your PROOF that murderers and child molesters are born that way.

And then let me tell you that if someone thinks about doing murder or molesting a child or an animal, they need psycological help because they are contemplating doing HARM.

If someone thinks about a gay relationship, if they become INVOLVED in a gay relationship, they HARM NO ONE.

And your prison analogy doesn't hold up. You say animals do it for dominance. So do the "animals" in prison.


and incest? If 2 1st cousins, both adults want to enter into a loving sexual relationship... you don't have a problem with that? Or 2 brothers, 2 sisters, or sister and brother? That's gotta be ok right? They are 2 consenting adults, they can't chose who they fall in love with right? So incest has to be ok... right?
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Originally posted by b50m:
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Posted 23 September 2010 01:01 PM Hide Post
Peter, if you to claim a sin for thinking of something, we are all going to Hell without passing GO!

OK, let's try this. A homosexual pygmy who never heard of God or Jesus and is very happy and lives a good life, dies.

Does he go to Hell?



Peter?


hey b50m... sorry, musta slid over yours... that is an odd hypothetical.... lol... but yes, a sinner cannot enter into the Kingdom of God without the blood of Jesus Christ to wash them clean.
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Originally posted by O No!:
And by the way Bill, getting back to your original post, MY way of sharing God's Word is to show by example that He gives us peace and joy. Once again, it is GOD'S place to judge, not mine. If you go around criticizing everyone and telling them God will be angry with them, they are likely to turn AWAY from God. If you treat people lovingly, and let them see that your loving attitude comes from God, they just might get curious and look into His word themselves.

Hi O,

What you say is true; we must show Christian love for all people. And, there are times when we do that only by being with them and helping them through whatever difficulties they currently are experiencing.

An example of this is exemplified by two of my Friends, a missionary couple. They are missionaries to a very tight knit Muslim community and any sharing of the Gospel would immediately drive away the leaders of this group -- and they would forbid their people from any association with my Friends.

So, for several years, my Friends have been helping this group, driving them where they need to go, helping them with paperwork such as immigration, banking, etc. -- and, just, in general being there for them when needed. My Friends are displaying the love of God through their lives.

But, the ultimate goal of my Friends is to, one day, be able to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with these people. And, that should be the ultimate goal of all Christian believers.

However, the situation my Friends are in -- and the situation on the Religion Forum is not the same. On the TimesDaily Forums, we have almost 11,000 registered members -- and, only God knows how many come here to read only, but, do not register. So, let's guesstimate that a few thousand read the Religion Forum. Of that number, only a few are atheists, secularist, and from world religions and cult churches.

Should we allow that small handful of non-believers free access to those thousands of folks, allow them to teach their world religions and false teachings -- without we Christian believers stepping forward and refuting those teachings -- by sharing the Truth of God's Bible? No. In no way should we allow the predators to freely roam among the sheep, i.e., the people -- freely and without some restraint. Our refutations are those restraints.

So, yes, show the love of God to all people -- especially those we are trying to reach with God's Word. But, at the same time, be vigilant, like the shepherds watching the flocks in Biblical times -- to ward off false teachings and false teachers.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by b50m:
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Peter, if you to claim a sin for thinking of something, we are all going to Hell without passing GO!

OK, let's try this. A homosexual pygmy who never heard of God or Jesus and is very happy and lives a good life, dies.

Does he go to Hell?



Peter?


hey b50m... sorry, musta slid over yours... that is an odd hypothetical.... lol... but yes, a sinner cannot enter into the Kingdom of God without the blood of Jesus Christ to wash them clean.



Peter,

We don't know what the pypmy knows about God. We can't say he has never known
or heard of God. The way Jesus deals with us is one thing, and others will be
different.

We are in our own world and can't second guess the judgment of God in
matters that don't concern us. God didn't create anyone to send to hell,
just for the hell of it.

How we are washed and how others gain salvation are two different things.
What I'm sure of is, all are given a chance. It would be like saying,
only people who have talked on a cell phone can go to heaven.
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And by the way Bill, getting back to your original post, MY way of sharing God's Word is to show by example that He gives us peace and joy. Once again, it is GOD'S place to judge, not mine. If you go around criticizing everyone and telling them God will be angry with them, they are likely to turn AWAY from God. If you treat people lovingly, and let them see that your loving attitude comes from God, they just might get curious and look into His word themselves.


Hey, O'No, you do a very great job at it. Smiler
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Originally posted by Gifted Child:
We are in our own world and can't second guess the judgment of God in
matters that don't concern us. God didn't create anyone to send to hell,
just for the hell of it.

How we are washed and how others gain salvation are two different things.
What I'm sure of is, all are given a chance. It would be like saying,
only people who have talked on a cell phone can go to heaven.


Now that is how I look at it too.
Thanks Veep. But I have to tell you, and you have seen it right here, I don't always hold my temper. YOU, on the other hand, have become one of my role models. No matter what people throw at you, you handle it with grace and style. God has brought so many wonderful people into my life, and you are one of them.
Thanks, you too, sista.
Oh, but you don't see the rage behind the keyboard. Ha!Ha! Smiler
If something is important enough to you to get your temper flared, it's something worthy of discussion. That's the way I see it....
Tempers, emotion and passion are the spices of life. If we aren't passionate about our beliefs, why bother?! Smiler
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We don't know what the pypmy knows about God. We can't say he has never known
or heard of God. The way Jesus deals with us is one thing, and others will be
different.

We are in our own world and can't second guess the judgment of God in
matters that don't concern us. God didn't create anyone to send to hell,
just for the hell of it.

How we are washed and how others gain salvation are two different things.
What I'm sure of is, all are given a chance. It would be like saying,
only people who have talked on a cell phone can go to heaven.


Gifted,

I believe it. God works in mysterious ways...
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Originally posted by Unobtanium:
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Originally posted by CrustyMac:
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:
No one is born gay....

Bill


So, Bill, I ask again, when exactly did you make the choice to be heterosexual?


assuming he made that choice of course. i still think he doth protesteth too much.


The more he rants against gays, the more convinced I am that he "chose" a heterosexual lifestyle as a cover.
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by Unobtanium:
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
However, if you give the moral scapegoat to one group for "genetics", then you gotta give it to everybody.
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incredibly ...obscenely stupid remark.

homosex is sex between two CONSENTING adults. key word there is CONSENITNG.


This isnt about the consenting act.. This is about the genetic makeup of the individuals....
To say... this guy desires sex with only men because he was born that way... ok
This guy desires sex with only pre-teen girls because he was born that way...
This guy desires sex with only pre-teen boys because he was born that way...
This guy desires to stuff his fridge full of dead bodies and use them for snacks because he was born that way...
This guy only desires sex with a labrador retriever because he was born that way...

What is the difference in all of these?
We say it is a choice to seek out pre-teen boys and girls or labrador retrievers for sex, we say that it is a choice to be a mass murdering canibal.
The only one we absolve choice from is homosexuality.
If an individual is "born that way", then it has to cover all these actions. It is natural, it is a compulsion that goes beyond a desire right? They have to do it because it is WHO THEY ARE.. not something they chose to be... because... they were "born that way".

To miss that logical progression is the only obscenely stupid thing....


The difference is that the only people in your example that can act on their compulsion with other consenting adults are the homosexuals. Fortunately for me, my compulsions are pretty mainstream, and I have a wife with similar compulsions to mine. Why deny that to homosexuals? For the others to realize their compulsions they are going to have to role-play with similarly compatible adults to keep things on the up-and-up.

Somewhere else you state you aren't discussing the action, but the thought. You claim that the thought is the sin. So, agreeing, for the sake of argument, that all these people are born this way, and using your logic that God is the creator of each of these people, then God created them this way. Interesting problem for God. Roll Eyes

Really, Peter, you need to take a step back and rethink a lot of your positions. Most that I have seen are based on faulty logic that lead to conclusions contrary to your stated position.
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CrustyMac... Very simple... I don't think they were born that way... Someone said earlier that homosexuals were born that way, thus it cannot be a sin... I was using their logic to absolve ALL OTHER immorality... My point that is largely missed(amazingly!! lol), it that, we all have sin nature + different psycological makeup... different sins float different folks' boats... but to make homosexuality "special" is ridiculous.
Glad to see I squashed the ridiculous talk about hermaphrodites

Also find it odd that no one who defends homosexuality between 2 consenting adults is stepping up to defend incest between 2 consenting adults. I brought that up to "O No!" I think it was... sooooo, any thoughts on that anyone?

We can't chose who we love right... can't chose our attraction... so if it happens to be one attracted to their sister or brother... that's quite alright.... right?
Peter, if you really want to tackle that, you realize the whole human race began because of incest.

As for the hermaphrodites, did that get squashed or ignored?

How about my question concerning your answer to the pygmy?

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Wait a minute Peter, if he doesn't know about God, then how can it be a sin?


I am, I said.
Peter, do I have to hold your hand and explain in small words? Should I try to see if this thing will type in crayon?

Incest harms the offspring of the couple in question. That is why it is against the law. Every behavior you have mentioned can potentially cause harm to someone or something. Homosexuality harms no one.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?????
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Originally posted by O No!:
Peter, do I have to hold your hand and explain in small words? Should I try to see if this thing will type in crayon?

Incest harms the offspring of the couple in question. That is why it is against the law. Every behavior you have mentioned can potentially cause harm to someone or something. Homosexuality harms no one.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?????


There is not offspring if it's 2 sisters... or if it's 2 brothers... How bout that? In that case, it has to be ok right?
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by O No!:
Peter, do I have to hold your hand and explain in small words? Should I try to see if this thing will type in crayon?

Incest harms the offspring of the couple in question. That is why it is against the law. Every behavior you have mentioned can potentially cause harm to someone or something. Homosexuality harms no one.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?????


There is not offspring if it's 2 sisters... or if it's 2 brothers... How bout that? In that case, it has to be ok right?


That's unspeakably gross, but should not be illegal.


nsns
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Originally posted by b50m:
Peter, if you really want to tackle that, you realize the whole human race began because of incest.

As for the hermaphrodites, did that get squashed or ignored?

How about my question concerning your answer to the pygmy?

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Wait a minute Peter, if he doesn't know about God, then how can it be a sin?


I am, I said.


My first post on page 3 of the thread I laid out how absurd it is to use that as a rubber "ok" stamp for all this idiotic.. "they're born that way" junk.

And, the pygmy thing again... lol
We are equipped, thanks to God the Creator, with the ability to know right from wrong even though we don't know why we know... Love and hate are a good test for this. Does society tell you which one feels good and which one feels bad, or is it inside of you? Is there a part of you that knows to love is good and to hate is bad. We all have a conscience that tells us right from wrong.. even atheists... they try to say they are just following the flow of society, but that's not true and even they know it. It's born in us.

Acts 17:26 and 27 talks about this.. about how in our souls we seek God even if we don't know He's there. Actually, the pygmy would have a good chance to find Him without all the smoke screens put up by non-believers blocking his vision.

Also, Romans 1:18-25... In summary this states that even the invisible things of Him are clearly seen...even His eternal power, "so that they are without excuse."

obviously, those without the mental capacity, such as mentally handicapped folks from birth, are different. These along with children who cannot understand, due to limited capacity, will be taken into God's tender care.
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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by O No!:
Peter, do I have to hold your hand and explain in small words? Should I try to see if this thing will type in crayon?

Incest harms the offspring of the couple in question. That is why it is against the law. Every behavior you have mentioned can potentially cause harm to someone or something. Homosexuality harms no one.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?????


There is not offspring if it's 2 sisters... or if it's 2 brothers... How bout that? In that case, it has to be ok right?


That's unspeakably gross, but should not be illegal.


nsns


Why?? We are animals right... just like the wild monkeys on Animal Planet... they have sex with kin... why can we? Can't have it both ways here... why the special rules for this?

2 brothers fall in love.... it's a touching story(no pun intended)... one is 24 one is 26, they decide they want to spend the rest of their lives together romantically... I'm trying to see where ya'll see this as bad... 2 consenting adults making their own choice. They aren't hurting anybody... Let them get married.. you heartless pigs!!!!!



lol
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
My point that is largely missed(amazingly!! lol), it that, we all have sin nature + different psycological makeup... different sins float different folks' boats... but to make homosexuality "special" is ridiculous.


I did indeed miss the point.

Homosexuality is "special" only in the same way that Down Syndrome, Huntington Disease, or green eyes are special.

We'll have to agree to disagree since you allow your personal beliefs to override legitimate scientific study.
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Originally posted by Bill Gray:

My church, my theology, my faith, my convictions -- and, more importantly -- my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, tells me to take my battered old Christian coat out of the closet and wear it at all times.


Yes bill.. it's is time you finally got your coat and came out of the closet.
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by O No!:
Peter, do I have to hold your hand and explain in small words? Should I try to see if this thing will type in crayon?

Incest harms the offspring of the couple in question. That is why it is against the law. Every behavior you have mentioned can potentially cause harm to someone or something. Homosexuality harms no one.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?????


There is not offspring if it's 2 sisters... or if it's 2 brothers... How bout that? In that case, it has to be ok right?


That's unspeakably gross, but should not be illegal.


nsns


Why?? We are animals right... just like the wild monkeys on Animal Planet... they have sex with kin... why can we? Can't have it both ways here... why the special rules for this?

2 brothers fall in love.... it's a touching story(no pun intended)... one is 24 one is 26, they decide they want to spend the rest of their lives together romantically... I'm trying to see where ya'll see this as bad... 2 consenting adults making their own choice. They aren't hurting anybody... Let them get married.. you heartless pigs!!!!!



lol


sure. let them get married.

they can't interbreed, therefor the generic aftermath isn't an issue.

i don't care if they get married or not.

as long as no one tries to gay marry me, let em do what they want.

if it's a sin, it's between them and god.
you don't enter into the equation.
neither dose bill. you can't save someones soul by denying them the right to marry... you can't save someones soul, if:
A- it doesn't need to be saved
B- they don't want you to save it
C- any combonation of a and b.

do you think they aren't already getting busy with each other whenever they desire? so how is not letting them marry going to change anything? at all?

it won't.

they are still gonna be gay.. and they are still gonna have gay sex. it'll just be adulterous as well. that's as much as you've contributed. well done.

so.. worry about your soul, and stop trying to save the people who don't wish your salvation.

if God has a problem with gay marriage, He can handle it.

He doesn't need you.
THANX thenagel!!!

Man... nobody else on your side of the fence will touch that one... O No!.... lol

So there you have it!! incest is also an acceptable form of relations since we are all just "born that way".

And I don't see the "innocent victim" in beastiality... take dogs for instance... males in particular, hump stuff all the time. I'm sure they'd be ok with a female human offering up their services. If that female is born with the predisposition to love dogs, why can't she hook up with a beagle?? That's got to be ok right?? Can't chose who we fall in love with, right?? It's all in our genetic makeup, and if the male dog is cool with it, then gotta let that be legal right??

I mean, God said that was wrong in a verse right after he mentioned homosexuality... bbbbuuuuttttt, the Bible is fictional giberish!!! So, if a human is born to love animals, that should be acceptable in society too..... right???
Peter,

Can you focus on the topic at hand for just a minute without throwing out the most ridiculously stupid "what ifs" I have ever heard?

Can you tell me why it would hurt you or anyone else if 2 consenting adults were to get married? 2 men, 2 women, or 1 of each?

Can you answer that with out using the bible or god as your reason against it?

And no, dogs can not consent to sex with a human or understand the words in a marriage ceremony.

Brothers and sisters are illegal for the very reasons O No laid out for you. However as thenagel has pointed out, regardless of marriage. they are going to do what they are going to do.

You should not worry your childish mind about it. Just go pray for a while and maybe god will ease your distress of these issues.
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by b50m:
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What about hermaphrodites? Who in your world are they allowed to love? If they choose a gender what is the correct one?


Bill, any reply?


First off... between .03% and .05% of babies born are actually hermaphrodies... that is 5% of 1% of all babies.. that is 5, 1 hundreths of a percent. That is tiny tiny percentage. This is something that is primarily in slugs oddly enough, but most of the time in humans this is "****oromegaly", which is an enlarged ****oris that resembles a penis at birth.
Approximately 300,000 children are born a year in America, and given those stats earlier, that would be 90 to 150 of those children who were born "intersex". But the term intersex(previously know as hermaphroditism), is wide ranging. Most of the time the child is a female with an enlarged ****oris, then in a much smaller percentage, you have actual "gene confusion".
But I don't put it past anyone to use this tiny test sample to attempt to create a huge blanket to cover everything they can. Like folks exploiting rape victims(which account for less then 1% of all abortions), to advocate other women killin all the unborn babies they want... it's pretty disgusting.

I just noticed that TD is censoring a particular part of the female anatomy that rhymes with Deloris. Wink


So this is what you think "squashing" this idea would look like?

All you did was give us some statistics and then throw in some more of your ignorance about abortion.

In your small world of understanding who are they supposed to be allowed to marry? Yes there are true hermaphrodites, so do they get to choose the gender they want to be with based on who they fall in love with? Is there a verse in your hand book that covers this too?

This may be too hard of a concept for you to understand since I didn't use an analogy about kids to ask the question, but try to grasp it if you can.

If you need me to I will put it in that form. First lets just see if you can do it without more help from the rest of us.
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Can you focus on the topic at hand for just a minute without throwing out the most ridiculously stupid "what ifs" I have ever heard?


Thanks Jank. I know everyone else agrees, and I have been trying not to lose my temper with his foolishness. The way you put it is exactly the way I WOULD have said it if I could have found the words without being TOO insulting.
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Originally posted by O No!:
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Can you focus on the topic at hand for just a minute without throwing out the most ridiculously stupid "what ifs" I have ever heard?


Thanks Jank. I know everyone else agrees, and I have been trying not to lose my temper with his foolishness. The way you put it is exactly the way I WOULD have said it if I could have found the words without being TOO insulting.


I have trained her well.

I’m beaming with pride.

That jank is a chip off the ole block. [Me of course]

She is a visionary and prophet just like myself.
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Originally posted by O No!:
No Peter, you're the one who doesn't "get it". What I posted makes good sense, and you refuse to acknowledge that. Gay people DO NOT HARM ANYONE, so what is your problem?




It all comes back around to religion. We are literal spirit children of God. We lived with Him before coming to this school called earth life. Before we came here we developed personalities. All of us were lacking much in the area of experience. We came here to "fine tune",who we are. Each of us were given our own set of circumstances that, ( if we made the right choices ), would help us become who God new we could. Some born into poverty, some with autism and yes, some with the desire for same sex relationships.
But, God also set rules, regulations and limits upon us. If we followed them we could return to him. God made man and woman and said get married and prepare bodies for Him to send His spirit children to inhabit so they could attend this earth life school.
Are the desires of homosexuality to be acted upon? NO, they are to be mastered. Is there a Homo gene? I dont know. But I do know, we are not our body. I do know the body has its own desires and passions which are to be mastered. AND CAN BE! When you look at porno, your brain dumps chemicals into your system that causes physical highs and changes. Your body likes these things so it's entices you to keep looking. This becomes an addiction to those chemicals brought about by looking at porno. Addictions as well as homosexuality can be overcome.
Should homos and lisbians be given special preferences because they CHOOSE to act upon those urges, NO!
AS I said in the beginning, its all about God's rules and regulations in order to return into His presence. But remember, God will NEVER force anyone into heaven, He gave all us the free will to chose to follow His rules, or not.
So you see, this school called Earth Life is VERY complex and full of choices. God has not left us without help though, He has unseen beings all around us leading, guiding and directing us, He has the third personage of the Godhead here to witness the truth of ALL THINGS to us, THE HOLY GHOST. He has given us PRAYER, the process of two way communication between He and us, with imphisus on the TWO WAY part.
I KNOW God hears and answers ALL prayers and the heavens are once again open to man and woman.
I KNOW it by experience and by the power of the Holy Ghost.
I KNOW Jesus Christ has once again re established His original organization upon this earth with LIVING Prophets and Apostles.
I KNOW the Book of Mormon to be the true word of God!
and I say that in the name of Jesus Christ!
Dwight
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Originally posted by O No!:
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Can you focus on the topic at hand for just a minute without throwing out the most ridiculously stupid "what ifs" I have ever heard?


Thanks Jank. I know everyone else agrees, and I have been trying not to lose my temper with his foolishness. The way you put it is exactly the way I WOULD have said it if I could have found the words without being TOO insulting.


I have trained her well.

I’m beaming with pride.

That jank is a chip off the ole block. [Me of course]

She is a visionary and prophet just like myself.


Whoa boy! I think I may have over done it with the sweet feed.

This is what you would call a sugar high, I think. Eeker
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Originally posted by O No!:
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Can you focus on the topic at hand for just a minute without throwing out the most ridiculously stupid "what ifs" I have ever heard?


Thanks Jank. I know everyone else agrees, and I have been trying not to lose my temper with his foolishness. The way you put it is exactly the way I WOULD have said it if I could have found the words without being TOO insulting.


He makes me think of when my son's were teens. They knew and had an answer for everything. I used to say "I wish I was 16 so I could know everything"

What is sort of sad is that Peter is more than likely an adult by age, but still sounds like he is 16 in reason and understanding.
Yeah yeah.. my "ignorance" about abortion is only the facts about abortion... but since when did facts matter to the masses right?? LMAO!!

And I am taking God out of the equation.... It is unnatural SCIENTIFICALLY for 2 men to have sex with one another... plain and simple. That's the first day of anatomy class there folks. If you can't comprehend that, then I'm shocked at your ability to type....

But if you take morality out of that, then my point stands... everyone says 2 brothers hookin up is disgusting... why?? Gay is gay right... what does it matter about incest. Just because you don't like the connection doesnt mean that connection shouldnt be made. You just don't like the answer to the question because it cause other absurd stances you have to lose credibility. If you remove morals from society, all of these things come into play. Not just the ones you are trapped into the mindset of "feelgoodism" about.

And why can't a dog consent to sex? It's an animal instinct right? Is a dog not consenting to sex when he humps your leg? Or a monkey, squirrel.. anything? Once again, you are showing a drastic contrast between humans and animals that are not supposed to exist in your world. I'm the one supposed to be showing that drastic contrast by stating my belief in the Bible, and how God set everything up. But in the world of nothingness and ramdomness, you aren't supposed to make that call. Is a woman who desires sex with a dog any worse than a man desiring sex with another man if they were born with that desire? If two men are gay and want to be together, does it matter if they are brothers or cousins? Ya'll open that pandora's box with your attempt to take God's moral law out of it... you have to deal with the demons that sneak out. And if you aren't ready to defend all those, then you don't really know what you believe.
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Originally posted by O No!:
No Jank, I think he's more like 12 or 13.


Says thee that has no substative reply.

lol... ;-)

My point is simple... take morality out of one area, take it out of all areas. Why all this pickin and choosin what's "ok" and what's not. There is a term for that and it is 'relative truth'... We want to keep the parts of God's moral law that we don't think mess up our choice of lifestyle, but the parts that step on our toes we try to cut out.

I've done this in my life, and still do. But in the end, right is right and wrong is wrong. The gray area is supposed to be the smallest part of life, but in our "feelgoodism" society, the gray is the largest so as to not offend anyone.

Personal responsibility no longer exists in our society.... sad to watch that society weaken, but that is what is happening.
Peter, I'm going to say this one more time, and then I'm done. GOD judges. People should NOT. If someone is doing HARM, we make laws to protect the innocent. If they are doing no HARM to others, then it should be left between them and GOD.

If you want to condemn everyone for every sin there is, then you condemn the whole human race, including yourself.

If you want to sit in judgement, then you have to judge people on EVERY sin. Ever disrespected your parents? Ever used profanity? Ever overeaten? (Gluttony is a sin too you know.) Ever been too lazy to clean the house? (slothfulness)

You see, I believe it is not my place to judge people when they are not causing HARM to innocent people. That is GOD'S job. Do you get it yet? It doesn't matter whether or not you do. I'm done with you. I won't JUDGE you, but I choose not to argue with a child anymore. Goodbye.

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