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Maybe Cruz reads European news websites instead of US sites using the blog-site Huffington Post:

One in ten Swedes now has private health insurance, often through their employers, with some recipients stating it makes business sense to be seen quickly rather than languish in national health care queues.

More than half a million Swedes now have private health insurance, showed a new review from industry organization Swedish Insurance (Svensk Försäkring). In eight out of ten cases, the person's employer had offered them the private insurance deal.

"It's quicker to get a colleague back to work if you have an operation in two weeks' time rather than having to wait for a year," privately insured Anna Norlander told Sveriges Radio on Friday. "It's terrible that I, as a young person, don't feel I can trust the health care system to take care of me." 

The insurance plan guarantees that she can see a specialist within four working days, and get a time for surgery, if needed, within 15.

http://www.thelocal.se/2014011...d-to-insurance-trend

 

I've mentioned this before and, must, again, as Condie's short term memory is failing.  When visiting Germany, a doctor of my acquaintance told me that none of the doctors or other medical personnel he knew of used the government provided medical care -- rather carried private insurance. Same for dental care. 

The Canadian Supreme court shot down their single payer plan be cause of extreme waiting times for specialists appointments and surgery, if required  Their Supreme Court stated the pain inflicted on patients waiting for care met the international definition of torture  Private insurance, hospitals and doctors are back,

jtdavis posted:

How do we get the medical costs more in line with the rest of the world?

Tort reform where the loser pays all costs of civil suits might go a little way in lowering costs by eliminating frivolous lawsuits. More competition would do more, but the natural inclination of politicians is to inject themselves in all aspects of our lives.

There's only one large Insurance healthcare company, it
seems today. They have joined forces to rip as much money
as possible. It's the demorats way of business as usual.
They're breaking laws and no one is doing anything about it.
For one thing, open the country up by letting them cross state
lines. Bring in the competition.
giftedamateur posted:
Contendahh posted:

Bull!  There are Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Humana, and Kaiser Permanente to name just three undeniably LARGE healthcare insurance companies. 


As usual, Jack, you simply do not know what you are talking about.

He said it "seems" like  there is only one. Seems like they have "joined forces" to rip folks off. 

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And he only makes an assertion to that effect with nothing whatsoever to back it up other than his opinion, which has more often than not proven unreliable or even deranged.

Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:
Contendahh posted:

Bull!  There are Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Humana, and Kaiser Permanente to name just three undeniably LARGE healthcare insurance companies. 


As usual, Jack, you simply do not know what you are talking about.

He said it "seems" like  there is only one. Seems like they have "joined forces" to rip folks off. 

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And he only makes an assertion to that effect with nothing whatsoever to back it up other than his opinion, which has more often than not proven unreliable or even deranged.

You don't think other people should have opinions.

giftedamateur posted:
Contendahh posted:
giftedamateur posted:
Contendahh posted:

Bull!  There are Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Humana, and Kaiser Permanente to name just three undeniably LARGE healthcare insurance companies. 


As usual, Jack, you simply do not know what you are talking about.

He said it "seems" like  there is only one. Seems like they have "joined forces" to rip folks off. 

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And he only makes an assertion to that effect with nothing whatsoever to back it up other than his opinion, which has more often than not proven unreliable or even deranged.

You don't think other people should have opinions.

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Other people are fully entitled to have opinions, but people who wish for their opinions to have persuasive weight should back up their opinions with sound reasoning.  Jack has not offered a shred of evidence or an iota of analysis to support his raw and unexplicated opinion. Thus his opinion carries little weight with those who seek a firm basis for such sweeping opinions as Jack offers.

jtdavis posted:

Or, simply lower standards to the European level.  Brit national healthcare for example and suffer the results.

How does the US compare to those other nations for long life and infant mortality?

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Not good measurements, as we've discussed before. Need to get the plaque cleared from the old brain. 

Live span is a combination of genetics, lifestyle and healthcare.  The Japanese are among the longest lived.  Genetics and diet (little red meat, lots of seafood and fowl, plus vegetables).  Japanese who settle in the US and adopt a western diet will live longer, on the average than most Americans, but shorter than their brethren in Japan.  Blacks have a shorter life span than most Caucasians because of diet, drugs and violent deaths.  White in the US have a lifespan close to their European cousins, including those in the welfare states.

Infant mortality is hard to measure because each nation measures are different. Plus, the US attempts heroic measures to save children delivered well before the 9-months gestation than most other nations. Would you reduce the infant mortality rate, if it means more dead babies?

Progressives have a hard time interpreting data.

 

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