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It's a little long but worth the read. I just can't believe that Beck could say all these things, he's crazy.

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I have to tell you, I read one of the best headlines I have read in I don't know how long. This made me so very, very happy. Let me pull it up. It was on the front page of the Drudge Report today. There it is. Right under Tea Party favorites score in Delaware, New York, and New Hampshire. The headline, Establishment Freaks. Hmmm. I'm so happy. Aren't you feeling good? Tea Party, let me tell you something. You have won now. You have won the day. You have done the absolute impossible. You have done something that everyone said could not be done. You have taken the establishment against all odds, people who are just bakers and plumbers, teachers, business leaders, just average moms and dads and kids, and you have built something here to where a year and a half ago, I had to convince you that you had the power. I had to convince you that you are not alone. And Rick Santelli just had to say, there needs to be some sort of a Tea Party! And look what you've done. In Delaware a guy who has been in congress for four decades and had everything going for him, done. This I believe is the seventh or eighth massive upset with the Tea Party.

Now, everyone today in the media is going to say, well, the Republicans are in Civil War, and the Republicans. And in a way it's true, except it's not brother against brother. Here's what it is. It's establishment versus the people. It is the elites versus the people. That's the Civil War here. Are you going to be controlled and dominated or are we a country that is based on the people, of the people, and for the people? Which are we? Are we in control or are we just given the illusion of control? Today at least in the primaries, the people are in control. It doesn't matter what the establishment tells us anymore. We're not believing it. And here's the even better news: It's independents, too. Once you can get the Democrats to understand that they have been lied to as well, that we don't have so much ‑‑ we have more in common than we have apart from each other. I'm not talking about the progressive machinery. I'm talking about the average Democrat.

Now, there are far more progressives in the world than I thought there ever were. I mean, you know, there are more communists. I thought communism was a joke. So you're not going to get everybody. Because we have to wake up and understand that there are people in our own country that are Americans that have a right to a point of view, and that point of view is the Constitution stinks on ice, the free market system stinks on ice, and it's had its whirl but it's time for it to be over. That is the valid view. I completely disagree with it, but it is a valid view of many people in this country, more than you care to recognize. There are those Americans that would like to destroy America as we know it today to create or fundamentally transform into something that they are being awfully cagey about but will look, will look like a very weakened America in a global governance situation. Those are your choices. Constitution, entrepreneurial spirit, a can‑do attitude, an attitude of common sense, or global governance with a weakened America that plays a secondary role at best, and misery.

Now, let me talk to the tea parties in the 9/12 group, and I single the Tea Party out because the 9/12 group I hope ‑‑ well, I can't ‑‑ let me just speak to the tea parties and the 9/12 group because I see the 9/12 group maybe differently than what they've made themselves into. So I don't know. So let me lump you all together just in case. You have to understand that you have won. Now the tough part begins because what you've done is you have, all the way along you have been ridiculed, you have been made fun of, you've been called violent, they have only shown pictures of you in, you know, the Statue of Liberty uniform, they have done everything they can, everything they can to make you unlike anything that you really, truly are.

Why did the Black Panthers come out ‑‑ which, they didn't show up. Why did the Black Panthers come out and say that they were going to ‑‑ we'll meet Glenn Beck on the mall on 8/28. Why did they do that? It was strategy. It was to suppress the numbers, to keep people away. They don't know you. And that's why you didn't stay away. Why did I ask you, don't bring any signs? I got heat for that. A lot of people wrote and said, we have a right of free speech. Okay. Whatever. Please. Just bring your children, not your signs. What was the thing that was absent from the coverage, I mean besides accurate facts, what was absent from the coverage of 8/28? That they were racist and then showing racism, you know, racist signs, that they were crazy. Only the Huffington Post ran pictures of people that were dressed in red, white and blue, but they didn't look crazy. But they tried to make them crazy because they were wearing, you know, flag shirts. The angry looking sign holders, all of that was absent. Why? Because you brought your family.

Here's my message to the tea parties. You now are in the catbird seat. You are now in the position of power. There is no way ‑‑ forget about what anybody says on television today. You are not getting anything but lies. So forget about television and forget about listening to the talking heads on television that are giving you the same old stuff because they're either a Republican or a Democrat or they're establishment. The establishment, you are witnessing today the beginning of the end of the establishment. And you've done it the right way. But now you have to understand that now you have an opportunity to expand this beyond the Republican Party. You already have. Because it's not Republicans. It's Republicans and independents. You've got two thirds. You have the Republicans and the independents. But now we have to reach out to everybody else that looks at their party and the Democrats and say, I'm not that. I don't like the way they did this, I don't like what they're doing now. I believe in the free market system, and how are you going to do that? By not allowing the media to typecast you anymore. You must understand there is ‑‑ there are phases of a movement and the first phase is get out, get into people's phase, let your voice be heard. Your voice, believe me. Let me read the headline again: Establishment freaks. Now you really want to freak them? Tea Party, I have nothing to do with you other than I'm one of your voices. No greater or any less than your voice. And there are a lot of people in the Tea Party that disagree with me, and that's fine. But Tea Party leaders, hear me carefully. Listen carefully. Now is the time to not be what they paint you as. You are not there. I'm saying ‑‑ let me free phrase it because it's not right. Don't be ‑‑ don't appear to be what they paint you as, as a bunch of, you know, crazy ‑‑ here, let me just be real direct. Hang up the Statue of Liberty costume. It's been great, we've loved it. Hang it up. Leave it in the closet. Don't bring your signs anymore. Your power now is in the power of numbers. You must always appear on television, always appear as a group of people that are just locking arms, are absolutely for peace. Believe me, believe me, this is going to be important. You must make a clear stand for peace, not because everybody says you're violent but because violence is coming and it is coming from the left. And so America must have a clear choice. You really are, you really are the people that are peaceful, that believe in the free market system, that believe in small government, that don't believe in corruption, that don't believe in special interests and earmarks and everything. That's who you really are. Now make sure that you are always seen on television just as that, just as people that everybody can turn on the TV and go, you know, I'm like them. Bring your families to these events. People must see you and say, I'm like them. And I'm sorry. As much as I appreciate the Statue of Liberty uniform or the Uncle Sam outfit, I don't see myself as that. There's a difference between the beginning of a movement and actually governing. The beginning is over. Last night you saw the end of the beginning. Now you're in the game and you are in control. Now you go for the real win and it can be done. You can win. Delaware, don't you listen to them. She can win. I don't know anything about her. I mean, assuming that she's not nuts, but you can win. Because there are Democrats that want to join you, that may not agree on every little issue, but if you stand for principles, if you stand for the Constitution, if you stand for enough is enough, you can win. And don't you let anybody else tell you different. You just need to make sure that you always appear as who you really are. Because they are working overtime to make sure you don't.


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Conservative TV host Glenn Beck is in a bit of a pickle, after endorsing viewers to buy gold on his show while himself having a major sponsorship from Goldline International, a gold coin dealer.

Beck has come under scrutiny from outsiders, who note that his endorsement to "buy gold
" may violate the internal rules of the FOX network, notes Daily Finance.

This is a small matter, as Beck has openly endorsed his sponsor on his radio show, and radio hosts are permitted to endorse on-air with FOX. But the fussy objection is 'live reads' vs. 'spokesmanship' which is calling into question whether Glenn Beck can be objective on stories about gold.

MY BAD. Glenn Beck just endorses GOLD! Some of the tea baggers like Mark Kirk were actually declining a Glenn Beck endorsement. Glenn Beck IS CRAZY!
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Now, there are far more progressives in the world than I thought there ever were. I mean, you know, there are more communists. I thought communism was a joke. So you're not going to get everybody. Because we have to wake up and understand that there are people in our own country that are Americans that have a right to a point of view, and that point of view is the Constitution stinks on ice, the free market system stinks on ice, and it's had its whirl but it's time for it to be over. That is the valid view. I completely disagree with it, but it is a valid view of many people in this country, more than you care to recognize. There are those Americans that would like to destroy America as we know it today to create or fundamentally transform into something that they are being awfully cagey about but will look, will look like a very weakened America in a global governance situation. Those are your choices. Constitution, entrepreneurial spirit, a can‑do attitude, an attitude of common sense, or global governance with a weakened America that plays a secondary role at best, and misery.



He MAY not be crazy, but he is definitely manipulating his followers. Read that quote again. As a liberal with a lot of liberal friends, I must tell you that I have NEVER heard any of us say we think the Constitution should be retired, that the free enterprise system is wrong, or that we should replace America with a global government.

Don't you people see that he (and the people behind him) are trying as hard as they can to polarize us? They WANT you to believe his outrageous rantings so you will be so angry that you'll do anything he tells you to do. He wants you to HATE people like me, even though I am nothing like the "liberals" he pertrays here. NONE of us are like that! Can't you see that you are being USED to further HIS agenda?
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Originally posted by O No!:
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Now, there are far more progressives in the world than I thought there ever were. I mean, you know, there are more communists. I thought communism was a joke. So you're not going to get everybody. Because we have to wake up and understand that there are people in our own country that are Americans that have a right to a point of view, and that point of view is the Constitution stinks on ice, the free market system stinks on ice, and it's had its whirl but it's time for it to be over. That is the valid view. I completely disagree with it, but it is a valid view of many people in this country, more than you care to recognize. There are those Americans that would like to destroy America as we know it today to create or fundamentally transform into something that they are being awfully cagey about but will look, will look like a very weakened America in a global governance situation. Those are your choices. Constitution, entrepreneurial spirit, a can‑do attitude, an attitude of common sense, or global governance with a weakened America that plays a secondary role at best, and misery.



He MAY not be crazy, but he is definitely manipulating his followers. Read that quote again. As a liberal with a lot of liberal friends, I must tell you that I have NEVER heard any of us say we think the Constitution should be retired, that the free enterprise system is wrong, or that we should replace America with a global government.

Don't you people see that he (and the people behind him) are trying as hard as they can to polarize us? They WANT you to believe his outrageous rantings so you will be so angry that you'll do anything he tells you to do. He wants you to HATE people like me, even though I am nothing like the "liberals" he pertrays here. NONE of us are like that! Can't you see that you are being USED to further HIS agenda?


The dangerous liberals are the establishment liberals. You're not in the elite establishment, you're one of us.
Seriously B, have you ever heard a liberal say the Constitution should be retired? Or is it that their political views make you INFER that that is what they think? I mean, one of the biggest gripes we had with W was that he was trouncing on the Constitution. We said it about Bush, now you are saying it about Obama. But I honestly think Obama has more respect for it than Bush ever did.
Let Beck explain his motives himself:

"Beck insists that he is not political: "I could give a flying crap about the political process." Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. "We're an entertainment company," Beck says. He has managed to monetize virtually everything that comes out of his mouth. He gets $13 million a year from print (books plus the ten-issue-a-year magazine Fusion). Radio brings in $10 million. Digital (including a newsletter, the ad-supported Glennbeck.com and merchandise) pulls in $4 million. Speaking and events are good for $3 million and television for $2 million."

Forbes interview
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The dangerous liberals are the establishment liberals. You're not in the elite establishment, you're one of us.

What is REALLY going on is a call for the assanation of President Obama. It is subtle, it was started as soon as he was elected, and if you watch any of the videos of Tea Party rallys and look at the signs this is the third wave, Beck's latest rant about "dangerous" liberals and trying to vilify the "establishment" liberals from non-elite. Ferrellj is a prime example of his and Fox News brainwashing technique.
Yes, Beck's a classy guy...trashing the widows of the 9/11 victims, but not missing a chance to exploit the anniversary - making money by charging people $75 to $200 to hear him preach.

Nice way to commemorate that day, Beck.

His comments:

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You know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims' families? Took me about a year. And I had such compassion for them, and I really wanted to help them, and I was behind, you know, "Let's give them money, let's get this started." All of this stuff. And I really didn't -- of the 3,000 victims' families, I don't hate all of them. Probably about 10 of them. And when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, "Oh shut up!" I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining. And we did our best for them.


Yes, he's definitely one to follow.
You guys keep crouching in your basements, oblivious, and far from the light of day.

Everything you say is your tainted, warped opinion, copied and pasted from or based on Huffington, Mr. Ed, Olberman, the MSM, and BeternU, et al.

When you emerge, you will realize your leaders, Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, Obama and the rest of the hard left have been rendered obsolete.

You are the ones who've been blindly following your leaders.

Obama is losing the support of everyone that voted him into office, other than the extreme left base.

You guys are acting like cornered rats.


But you're entertaining, at least.
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Originally posted by rocky:
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The dangerous liberals are the establishment liberals. You're not in the elite establishment, you're one of us.

What is REALLY going on is a call for the assanation of President Obama. It is subtle, it was started as soon as he was elected, and if you watch any of the videos of Tea Party rallys and look at the signs this is the third wave, Beck's latest rant about "dangerous" liberals and trying to vilify the "establishment" liberals from non-elite. Ferrellj is a prime example of his and Fox News brainwashing technique.


You made me spill my coffee laughing rocky. Obama is already "assanated". Thats the statement of the day.
The "assanation" line is unfounded and ridiculous, but the one from Butt-er-cup is just as bad:

" but not missing a chance to exploit the anniversary - making money by charging people $75 to $200 to hear him preach."

As if he was forcing people to hear him speak, but moreover, I don't hear anyone else being trashed for working on 9-11.

I mean, MSNBC didn't go commercial free on 9-11. The MSM either. The NY Times or LA Times didn't put out their papers w/o any ads that day. There were thousands of college football games that were played on Sat the 11th and I believe they charged full price for their tickets, and drinks, and food. Where was Obama and his entourage and the Secret Service on 9-11? I'll bet none of them forfeited their pay for the day.

Stores were open, businesses were running, restaurants were serving, so why is it that Beck is the only one called out for working and receiving compensation because it was the 9th anniversary of the planes crashing into the WTC, the Pentagon, and a Pennsylvania field?

I think that goes a long way to explain the 'hatin' coming from the left.
If Butter meant the Restoring Honor rally, it was free.

As for Glenn's 'shows', yes, you pay just like you do to see any other entertainer.

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RESTORING HONOR RALLY FAQ
8.28.10 - Washington, DC

Where is the Restoring Honor event located??
The event stage will be located on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC. Several video screens and sound towers will be placed along the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool and on the grounds of the Washington Monument. Remember that these monuments are located in a National Park and are open to the public as well as attendees of our event. Safety for all is our primary concern so please follow all rules posted and be respectful of all in attendance.

What are the hours of the Rally?
Official hours are 10 a.m. – 1 p.m. on Saturday, August 28, 2010.

Is the event free of charge?
Yes, the event is free of charge. No tickets or pre-registration required with the exception of buses. All buses traveling to the event will need to register (also free of charge). You can register your bus here.
Life is back to normal on 9/11 for most most people. Bleck, on the other hand IS CHARGING MONEY TO ATTEND A 9/11 MEMORIAL EVENT!!! AND, he has said numerous times that he HATES the victims families.

If you look to Bleck as a source of reasoned dialog about societal events, you deserve to be called a teabagger.
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Bleck, on the other hand IS CHARGING MONEY TO ATTEND A 9/11 MEMORIAL EVEN



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The Alaska Dispatch notes,

According to a letter to the editor of The Frontiersman, the Conservative Patriots Group is holding a "non-partisan, non-political remembrance rally" (a remembrance 'rally'?) to commemorate the victims of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. Speakers include Wasilla Mayor Verne Rupright, plus Joe Miller and tentatively Scott McAdams, both candidates for U.S. Senate. The organizers promise to show what they believe is a "never-before-seen slide show" of the attacks. The event will begin at Wasilla's Menard Sports Center at Noon on Saturday, Sept. 11, and end at 2 p.m. The Conservative Patriots Group's statement concludes:

All are invited. Bring your children. Cake and coffee will be served, and Conservative Patriots Group will be sponsoring a youth essay contest with the theme “How Has 9/11 Affected the United States of America.” Cash prizes will be awarded, and contest entry forms are available only at Saturday’s rally.

All the "meet and greet" tickets priced at $225 are currently sold out.


The charge of the meet and greet was $225. How much would you pay to meet an entertainer?
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AND, he has said numerous times that he HATES the victims families.


Glenn Beck statement.

BECK: You know, it took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims’ families. It took me about a year. Um, and I had such compassion for them and I really, you know, I wanted to help them, and I was behind — let’s give them money, let’s get them started, and all of this stuff. And I really didn’t — all the 3,000 victims’ families, I don’t hate all of them, I hate about, probably about ten of them. But when I see 9/11 victim family, you know, on television, or whatever, I’m just like, ‘Oh, shut up.’ I’m so sick of them. Because they’re always complaining. And we did our best for them. And again, it’s only about ten.


He hated it when the greed of some families took over. If you will read it, he said about 10.
As for that money:

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Thousands of fans who paid between $73.75 and $225 for tickets gathered inside the center to see the two tea party favorites.

Beck was to donate his speaking fee from the event, and Palin wasn't paid for her appearance, according to Christopher Balfe, president of Beck's media company. The amount of the fee wasn't disclosed, and was to go to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, which provides scholarships and services to families of military members.

The event originally featured only Beck, according to Christopher Cox of Northern Stage Co. in Anchorage. Only later did Cox think of adding Palin and she agreed to participate.

Outside the downtown center, about 100 protesters waved signs and denounced Palin and Beck as intolerant fearmongers spreading divisiveness across the country.

Holding a sign that said "Freedom isn't just for zealots," Brian MacMillan of Anchorage urged Palin and Beck supporters to ease up on President Barack Obama.

"Give the man in charge his due," he said. "He's doing the best he can."

Many Beck fans attending the event were equally passionate.

"I support a lot of what Glenn Beck has to say, especially when it comes to smaller government and getting God back to America," Dan Garrett of Wasilla said
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Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck are appearing together in Anchorage, Alaska Saturday to mark the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and tickets don't come cheap: The Ticketmaster page for the event lists regular adult tickets at between $73 and $130 and tickets plus a "meet & greet" at $225.

CBS News

WAIT!!! Bleck has pledged to donate his cut to a warfighter charity, ie he KNOWS he should not have charged for the event, and by giving the money away, he is absolved from criticism.
Bleck/Palin are the leaders of the Tea Party, which makes them relevant since the Reps have no leaders according to all polling. Rush, Bleck, Palin et al are just the continuation of the Rights need for charismatic leadertainers, which started with Reagan.

If the piece of Earth where Americans died is sacred, then using that event for personal gain is beyond the bounds of acceptable behavior.
Obama doesn't consider it hallow ground. It's another 'give back' day.

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By encouraging Americans to mark 9/11 by giving back to their communities, the president is putting the anniversary on a par with some of the other occasions on which he has discussed the same thing. For example, on February 25 or this year, he praised winners of the National Medal of Arts and Humanities for "giving back to the communities." On April 7 of this year, he praised military spouses for "giving back to their communities." At a Democratic fundraiser in October 2009, he praised his administration's efforts for young people who are "giving back to their community."

Now, it is a good thing for people to engage in acts of service. But there are already many occasions on which the federal government urges Americans to engage in acts of service. September 11 is something different. It was the day the United States was attacked, starting a war that continues to this moment. It is a solemn occasion in U.S. history, calling for solemn commemoration. Turning it into another AmeriCorps project drains away its meaning, which remains as important today as it was on September 11, 2001 itself.


Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer....9.html#ixzz0zhzWU3ZH
Beck nor Palin are leaders of the TEA party. They are supporters. The Republican party is trying to redefine itself right now because they have lost touch with the American people. The TEA party filled this need. The event in question was not for personal gain. Beck had planned from the beginning to donate the proceeds to charity.
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Originally posted by b50m:
If Butter meant the Restoring Honor rally, it was free.

As for Glenn's 'shows', yes, you pay just like you do to see any other entertainer.

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RESTORING HONOR RALLY FAQ
8.28.10 - Washington, DC

Where is the Restoring Honor event located??
The event stage will be located on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC. Several video screens and sound towers will be placed along the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool and on the grounds of the Washington Monument. Remember that these monuments are located in a National Park and are open to the public as well as attendees of our event. Safety for all is our primary concern so please follow all rules posted and be respectful of all in attendance.

What are the hours of the Rally?
Official hours are 10 a.m. – 1 p.m. on Saturday, August 28, 2010.

Is the event free of charge?
Yes, the event is free of charge. No tickets or pre-registration required with the exception of buses. All buses traveling to the event will need to register (also free of charge). You can register your bus here.


I was referring to the event on the anniversary of 9/11.

And, no, I don't have a problem with Beck making a living. I have a problem with Beck exploiting the 9/11 anniversary and making money from it - especially after he trashed the 9/11 wives. (Does it matter that it was only "about 10" of them and not all of them?)

So Beck "hated it when the greed of some families took over" but didn't think anything of making more money for himself on the 9/11 anniversary? If the 9/11 anniversary really meant anything to him, why didn't he commemorate it in a less tacky way?
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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Beck nor Palin are leaders of the TEA party. They are supporters. The Republican party is trying to redefine itself right now because they have lost touch with the American people. The TEA party filled this need. The event in question was not for personal gain. Beck had planned from the beginning to donate the proceeds to charity.


Then who is the leader of the Tea Party? Or the Party of Family Values? Is it Newt? Or Rush? One a drug addict and the other divorced 3X.

Lets hear from a Teabagger.
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Originally posted by b50m:
If you will go back to the middle of page two, you will see:

Beck was to donate his speaking fee from the event, and Palin wasn't paid for her appearance.


And he probably decided that after the media ran with the story. Regardless, it was still tacky to charge for it IMO.

Obviously I don't care for Beck or Palin, but I also think the left has its share of nimrods too.

I just hate that our country is so divided. Turn on the television and all you see is the panel yelling at each other, not debating. I can't watch it anymore.

So I'm just trying to ask questions and argue my points in a less defensive way going forward (I've been told I'm too defensive). It's a kinder, gentler Buttercup...or at least I'll try it.

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Originally posted by JuanHunt:
Dont be nice, Buttercup. Politics is like professional wrastling, without the cool uniforms.

In December, the Reps will control the House, and apparently Rove is still calling the shots behind the scene. So, you can expect to 2004 style budget work, as evidenced by the propaosal put forth Tuesday.


I guess you would prefer spend and tax like crazy? What is wrastling?

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