The contrarians: They didn’t vote for Trump, but they would now

Contrarian-a person who takes an opposite or different position or attitude from other people

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“Donny-Come-Latelys” People who did not support the candidate on Nov. 8, but now, 100 days in, find that they do.

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David Kord Murray, the owner of a small business-finance company in California, admits he likes to be different — “to take the contrary position.” Yet even he is surprised to have reached his latest conclusion — that while he strongly supported Hillary Clinton during the campaign, and voted for her without reservation, he now wishes he had cast that vote for Donald Trump.

“I like what he’s doing, and I wish I had voted for him,” he says. Not having supported Trump sooner, he says, makes him “feel like a coward.”

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As Dennis Dayley, a retiree (and Clinton voter) outside of Seattle, wrote to the Seattle Times a few days after the inauguration: “I really thought the election was between the lesser of two evils. Now, due to the negative coverage of Trump and the obvious slant against him, much of it false or misleading, the news media has successfully made a convert out of me. Congratulations! You have turned me into a Trump supporter!”

For Matt Green, a self-described libertarian in Dallas who didn’t vote at all, because he “disliked everyone” (including the Libertarian candidate), it was both the press coverage and the constant protests that changed his mind.

“The media and the left kept calling those who voted for Trump ‘racist’ and ‘misogynistic,’” he said. “I know the people who voted for him are good people. They cast their votes because they were pro-life, or pro-Second Amendment, but not because they had malice in their hearts toward immigrants. I know these people, and if I have to take sides I’m going to side with the people who I know.”

At the time, Green was an editor of a conservative website called the Rouser, and 10 days after Election Day he wrote a column for that site titled “I Didn’t Vote for Trump, But I Wish I Had.” In it he wrote, “Seeing the outrage and general disregard for decent human behavior from the left, it has become clear to me that, despite the moral downfalls of this narcissistic man, he is the best choice to take control of this country.”

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For Jacob IsBell, it was all of the above — plus the violence. A musician and podcaster from Albuquerque, he did not vote the national ticket in November, though he did vote in the state and local elections. Then, in the days afterward, he watched as anti-Trump protests turned violent. When Milo Yiannopoulos was not allowed to speak in Berkeley, that was IsBell’s turning point. “Not because I support anything the guy was going to say, but I support his right to say it,” he says. “I find myself so bothered with what I view as the violent assault against free speech. It was a galvanizing event. I thought, ‘If this is what the opposition is, then I’ll pick a side.’”

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“I thought Obama did a great job,” Murray continues. “I was proud to call him my president. He had, and has, class, grace and a deep intellect. But he divided us, and the result is Trump. I’m not proud of him and his ego. But I believe the primary role of the president is as chief executive, and the primary responsibility is economic. I think Trump can make America great in terms of economics.”

And economics are most of his reasons for shifting his support. “Deregulation of business. Smaller government. Self-reliance. A respect for the hardworking women and men that built this country, and don’t want their paychecks supporting political institutions that run counter to their beliefs,” he says. As a small-business owner he believes Trump will — already has — “cut through the regulation that is killing me and my customers. I agree there should be business regulation, but it’s reached levels where it’s ridiculous.”

Still, he says, that might not have been enough to change his mind toward Trump if not for the “nastiness” of those who oppose him.

“The anti-Trump group is extremely vocal, and they don’t understand the other side,” he says. “They just can’t fathom why anybody would support Trump, and I find that frustrating and shortsighted. The anti-Trump movement seems elitist, entitled and incredibly closed-minded. Intolerance is intolerance. The Trump side seems more tolerant to me.”

He knows many will react to his opinion by calling him all sorts of names. By doing so, he says, “you’re making my point for me.”

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jtdavis posted:

The other guy is the one not on your side

Because they're on your side where all perverted felonious thugs
enjoy the lawless protection you provide for them. The true
America side, my side, has no room, money, time or need for  
your spineless copout. At least my side hasn't turned it's back
against the country we know as family.. You divorced the greatest
clan on earth for an adulterated mongrel pack of jackals.
--you own it--  

 

jtdavis posted:

Kraven, typical self righteous right winger. You're always smart enough to know what everyone else is thinking

He's still complaining about what he always does so it's nothing
magical knowing what the boy is thinking. Liberal thinking is a
neurotic journey to nowhere and they want money for the trip.
Kraven posted:
jtdavis posted:

Kraven, typical self righteous right winger. You're always smart enough to know what everyone else is thinking

He's still complaining about what he always does so it's nothing
magical knowing what the boy is thinking. Liberal thinking is a
neurotic journey to nowhere and they want money for the trip.

I know. They never shut up as Gifted noted, and cry and whine about every tiny thing. No wonder people are sick of them.

First 100 days saw highest rate of progress for jobs gained,
exit of jobs leaving the country slowed considerably, US
Constitution retakes the SCOTUS, health care on it's way back,
veterans affairs being corrected, complete over haul of military,
murdering career criminals and other felonious illegals and
undesirables returned to which they came, decently restored
to the Whitehouse and thugs removed from presidential
cabinet and more to add for the first time in years.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy turned in the weakest performance in three years in the January-March quarter as consumers sharply slowed their spending. The result fell far short of President Donald Trump's ambitious growth targets and underscores the challenges of accelerating economic expansion.

The gross domestic product, the total output of goods and services, grew by just 0.7 percent in the first quarter following a gain of 2.1 percent in the fourth quarter, the Commerce Department reported Friday.

The slowdown primarily reflected slower consumer spending, which grew at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 0.3 percent after a growth rate of 3.5 percent in the fourth quarter. It was the poorest quarterly showing in more than seven years.

Argue with them

jtdavis posted:

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy turned in the weakest performance in three years in the January-March quarter as consumers sharply slowed their spending. The result fell far short of President Donald Trump's ambitious growth targets and underscores the challenges of accelerating economic expansion.

The gross domestic product, the total output of goods and services, grew by just 0.7 percent in the first quarter following a gain of 2.1 percent in the fourth quarter, the Commerce Department reported Friday.

The slowdown primarily reflected slower consumer spending, which grew at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 0.3 percent after a growth rate of 3.5 percent in the fourth quarter. It was the poorest quarterly showing in more than seven years.

Argue with them

You argue with them since you can't stay on subject. Show where the news ABOUT THE STOCK MARKET, the subject of the post, is not true. You're doing your usual deflection game.

Kraven posted:

Jt, you couldn't look anymore foolish arguing with the experts.

What happened to the, "CEO's are making more money than
the burger flippers that's not fair."
 
That's what you need to worry your confused head.

He didn't even watch the video, he just startrd his "nuh uh" dance.

THE STOCK MARKET IS DOING GREAT JT, THE BEST FOR THE
LAST 42 YEARS AND THE HIGHEST SINCE HENRY FORD.
I DIDN'T START THIS THREAD, SO DON'T ASK ME, YOU LOOK
FOOLISH WHEN YOU'RE FUSSY AT THE WRONG PERSON.
WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD A HALF PINT OF CASTORIA,,??
FLUSH THAT LIBERALISM OUT MR. FUSSY, NO NEED TO THANK ME.

I'm rather amused concerning any reference by Democrats as to the first quarter  GDP growth of 0.7 percent.  First, Obama was president for the first 20 days and his economic policies drove much of the rest of that quarter.  The first quarter of 2009, the average GDP  growth was -5.4 percent.  Dems screamed that Obama should not be held responsible for that as it was mostly Bush's policies.  No matter, Obama's presidency has an average GDP growth of 1.8 percent -- the worst recovery in over 100 years.

direstraits posted:

I'm rather amused concerning any reference by Democrats as to the first quarter  GDP growth of 0.7 percent.  First, Obama was president for the first 20 days and his economic policies drove much of the rest of that quarter.  The first quarter of 2009, the average GDP  growth was -5.4 percent.  Dems screamed that Obama should not be held responsible for that as it was mostly Bush's policies.  No matter, Obama's presidency has an average GDP growth of 1.8 percent -- the worst recovery in over 100 years.

Usually the real recipient of the good or bad results of an administration are the future administrations of different presidents. Bush and Obama inherited the housing bust from laws enacted in the Clinton administration that artificially overstimulated the market while Clinton was the major recipient of the Reagan era tax cuts and "Star Wars" technology that became commercialized.

I might also note that the stock market has mostly responded emotionally to the Trump agenda; we're still operating under an Ol'bama budget but some onerous regulations have been tossed. We won't really know how good or bad Trump was until much later. 

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