The DEMOCRATS SOLUTION

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Originally posted by NashBama:
That's right. Bush supports giving amnesty to illegals and increasing the minimum wage among other things. This is more in line with liberal Democrats than Republicans. How is that propaganda?



Maybe hypocracy would have been a better word. Bush ran as a Conservative, and now, ON FOX he is becoming Liberal... So hypocracy, lies, propaganda, take your pick, because he changes moods and ideas as many times as my grandson has his diaper changed.
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Originally posted by NashBama:
No, Bush ran as a Republican. He also ran against one of the worst flip/floppers in either parties which helped him get elected. I'm not happy with Bush either, but don't blame Fox for him changing his mind.


I am not blaming FOX, it was FOX I was watching, but it was BUSH talking, and he was flip flopping so bad, he was talking so fast, faster than I have EVER seen a President speak, that it felt like he didnt really WANT people to be listening. Thank God for Closed Caption though, I heard/saw it all.

Out of his own mouth, he admitted that he would be moving his office toward liberal views from now on, and that he would also be changing the Executive Offices, ... wow, is that illegal... nevermind, it doesnt matter, ... wiretapping, changing stuff... all of it USED to be illegal, but somehow or another, the last year it is all okay.

Talk about flip flopping... my, oh my. May God have mercy on all of us, and I MEAN that.
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Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
Our new speaker of the House 3rd in line to be President..........

DEMOCRATS WON WE GET THIS


The sad thing is , people will vote for the Democratic nominee whether they agree with what they stand for or not." As long as we get rid of the Republicans we don't care". Then next time it'll be " as long as we get rid of the Demcrats we don't care". It's an endless cycle that has been going on for a long time, and will continue until enough people stand up for America and vote-em-all-out.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
Thats weird, Fox news reported just yesterday that Bushism is turning more to the liberal way of thinking than any republican ever has... now I am wondering which is right, and WHO is lying, MORE PROPAGANDA Roll Eyes
I think Bush is trying to RESCUE the Republican party. He is co-opting the Democratic Budget and Economic plan. Just to add a few cups of Republican to it. That is not becoming liberal, it is playing politics to SALVAGE A RUINED Political Party, so the MOVEMENT that ruined it can come back another day. HE IS TRYING TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE NEO CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT HE REPRESENTS. Only possible reason. They can't win an election unless they repair their repubublican reputations. CONCEPT: CYA...COVER YOUR A**
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Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
Our new speaker of the House 3rd in line to be President..........

DEMOCRATS WON WE GET THIS


I get it. Pelosi is a liberal, compared with practically ANY Republican. She is the Speaker of the House. Now a NON conservative is directing the proceedure instead of a Neo Conservative. Liberal legislation will get out of committee, and get amended on the floor, AND heaven help us, voted on by All of our representatives.
Smiler Smiler HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!!!! Smiler Smiler
HAD to weigh in on this one, even though I saw the trap coming, I am in a wait and see mode for the NEW senate and congress but if they only HURT the country HALF as bad as the Republicans have for the past 8 years, we will all be better off. We need a raise on minimum wage, national health care, medicare reform and less corruption in government. If that is produced in the next 2 years we will be better off, if any of the above is accomplished it will be more than Republicans have done, except raise the deficit and make the rich RICHER. THE DOG
LOL, Uber & Nash.

Setting aside his recent (what is considered to be) liberal stands, I just cannot consider Bush a conservative. I'd call him a radical maybe, but conservative? I don't think if we had a truly conservative servant leader that he or she would have made the same choices that Bush and his administration have made. Of course, this is all hypothetical since nobody is truly anything in politics.
The last 3rd party candidate who actually challenged the Democrats and Republicans was Perot. If he didn't drop out prematurely the second time he ran, he would have won. That was the first election where I was old enough to vote, I voted for Perot. I think everyone is sick of both parties. Both have gotten too powerful, too rich, and out of touch with the American public. I think the next presidential election would be the perfect opportunity for a strong 3rd party to run. As long as they're not total nut jobs, I'll vote for them.
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Originally posted by NashBama:
The last 3rd party candidate who actually challenged the Democrats and Republicans was Perot. If he didn't drop out prematurely the second time he ran, he would have won. That was the first election where I was old enough to vote, I voted for Perot. I think everyone is sick of both parties. Both have gotten too powerful, too rich, and out of touch with the American public. I think the next presidential election would be the perfect opportunity for a strong 3rd party to run. As long as they're not total nut jobs, I'll vote for them.


Well, I'll be. So did I (vote for Perot). And, I agree...give me a contender & he or she will get my vote.
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
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Originally posted by NashBama:
The last 3rd party candidate who actually challenged the Democrats and Republicans was Perot. If he didn't drop out prematurely the second time he ran, he would have won. That was the first election where I was old enough to vote, I voted for Perot. I think everyone is sick of both parties. Both have gotten too powerful, too rich, and out of touch with the American public. I think the next presidential election would be the perfect opportunity for a strong 3rd party to run. As long as they're not total nut jobs, I'll vote for them.


Well, I'll be. So did I (vote for Perot). And, I agree...give me a contender & he or she will get my vote.


Well,I did too. Smiler

Since 1960, if I remember right, we've had as President 20 years of Democrats and 27 years of Republicans. As a majority in Congress I'd say about 30-17 Democrats.(somebody better check me on that. i'm getting old.) So there's plenty of blame to go around.
Do you think this country, overall, is better now than it was in 1960 ?
Comrade Pelosi wants to bring San Freaksicko-style liberalism to D.C. She wants to make the entire U.S. a People's Republik akin to the People's Democommunist Republik of Kalifornia (PDRK).

Bush, political wise, has caved for whatever reason. Conservatives feel stabbed in the back by his want of a de-facto amnesty of illegal aliens, among other things. Bush never vetoed anything when the House and Senate was republican. The RINO's and Bush paid dearly for it in the last election, similar to when Comrade Klinton and his crony pals ran the House and Senate in 1993-94. They banned guns, among other things, which p/o'ed alot of folks, and got a pink slip bigtime (to quote the late Peter Jennings: "...a temper tantrum..") on Election day 1994 (that was the second time I voted).

Yep, welcome folks to San Freaksicko-style liberalism. This is what you wanted, this is what you are going to get. If you like guns, better buy now, or cry later when they are banned and/or further restricted; among other things I didn't mention.

If the sheeple of this country continue to vote for the party, instead of voting for the individual based upon an individuals voting record, this is what you will get....the shaft.

I say vote them all out, and start with a clean slate. I say get rid of the Party name and they run based on if they are a liberal, conservative, or weak-kneed/I don't stand for anything/vote how the wind of the latest poll blows moderate.
Originally posted by NashBama:
The last 3rd party candidate who actually challenged the Democrats and Republicans was Perot. If he didn't drop out prematurely the second time he ran, he would have won. That was the first election where I was old enough to vote, I voted for Perot. I think everyone is sick of both parties. Both have gotten too powerful, too rich, and out of touch with the American public. I think the next presidential election would be the perfect opportunity for a strong 3rd party to run. As long as they're not total nut jobs, I'll vote for them.

***I agree 110% with NashBama. I didn't vote in 2000 because I didn''t believe in any of the candidates, and I voted for the wrong guy in 2004. The Democrats and Republicans all sleep in the same bed and just get out on different sides, IMO. It's all about power; who cares what happens in real life to the average joe. I would vote Libertarian but I don't think I can support a completely free marketplace with no regulation whatsoever. Especially after all industry here in the Shoals went over the border or elsewhere in the last 30 years.
Look, it has been exactly (well maybe) 24 hours since the new democratic congress and senate have taken control. Like I said, wait and see. I am not a fanatical about any party, BUT I do know what the Republicans have done to(NOT FOR) the country in the last 12 years in majority, all I am saying is maybe the Democrats won't do worse. THE DOG
Well, I am concerned, as well as the majority of gun-owners in this country.

I remember the dark days of 1993-94 when the Klintonistas controlled the White House (from 1993-2001) and the Democraps controlled the House/Senate. They passed gun control laws out the wazzo...and paid dearly for it in the 1994 elections, what the late Peter Jennings of ABC News akined to a "temper tantrum.". Even one William Jefferson Blythe Klinton wrote about it in his memoirs....that some of the more conservative Democrat leadership begged him to not push it...He made them push, and those that followed the party line got a pink slip. They had better remember that and leave the 2nd Amendment alone....

Now, with the speaker being from the most gun-controlled state in the union, the People's Republik of Kalifronia, and from one of the most anti-gun cities in the PRK, San Freaksicko, and who has an F rating from: NRA, Gun Owners of America, and the Second Amendment Foundation, I WILL be watching, along with thousands of other law-abiding gun owners.
Brenten is right on the money on this issue.The second admendment is second only to the 1st. In this case #2 helps keep #1. So the 'free press' , that was paid for in the blood of the earliest Americans, I guess it wasn't free back then. Is what I, along with millions like me, look for in a president. If some gonad free person wants MY vote. along with MILLIONS who share the same view better grow some fast. From the Eastern coast of Maine to the heartland of Ohio westward on to Wyoming and on to the pacific. And any place in between the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY!!!!
MADDOG , I know Brenten may have spoke some things that were not P.C. And I guess so have I, I think we are all on the same page on this.If we have to blow off steam so be it. I do it all the time. The issue as I see it here is the defence of the 2nd admendment. IMHO the most important of all.

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