Joy..... that was weird.
DF
LOL - from an old thread, perhaps too old since you don't remember it. 
Sooooooooo, how about those Dodgers?
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Manny's the new "old" kid on the block, doing good but looks like he'll have to cut his hair.
<I so looked that up.>
no way, his hair is his strength
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Did Bill say something?
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THE queen smites thee, deep-eth fat-eth! *SMITE, SMITE*
there, joy. he's putty in your hands now.
there, joy. he's putty in your hands now.
quote:Hi Nash,
That is your problem. The people who are interested will read it. Those who are not; you can handle them.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Not my problem. The response was addressed to me and I'm not interested in reading a novel. To effectively convey your ideas on a forum, it's best to keep them as concise as possible.
quote:Originally posted by hoss gal:
THE queen smites thee, deep-eth fat-eth! *SMITE, SMITE*
there, joy. he's putty in your hands now.
Oooooo, goody. I've been needing to caulk around the front door & he's just the right color. <hee, hee>
ow!
And I am not a building material!
DF
And I am not a building material!
DF
Heeeyahl! Heeyahl! Out you foul non-fundamentalist demons! Say "baybee!" Say "baybee!" I slay you in the spirit! Hummuna hummuna hummana, and away we go! Bring out the lovely June Taylor dancers!
Live from Miami Beach, it's the Gilly Bray show!
Live from Miami Beach, it's the Gilly Bray show!
I just want to say this..........
I put 'Billvation' on ignore about half hour ago and I love it!!
Do LOVE the 'Billvation' thing, though. And you are right, Nash. I don't drink either, but you could buy me some kinda 'prize', couldn't ya?!?
I put 'Billvation' on ignore about half hour ago and I love it!!
Do LOVE the 'Billvation' thing, though. And you are right, Nash. I don't drink either, but you could buy me some kinda 'prize', couldn't ya?!?
oooooooh, the June Taylor Dancers.....
That's the good stuff, right there.
DF
That's the good stuff, right there.
DF
quote:Originally posted by skymaster:quote:Originally posted by DHS-86:
Bill has got to be joking. He is the main person who tries to spin, twist, distort and otherwise screw around with what other people say to fit his own agenda. He and I had that discussion in another thread recently. Bill has lost all credibility with me and I see him for what he is, a holier than thou pain in the butt.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Whewwwwwwwww
Did I say anything in regard to you ?
Matthew 4 verse 17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near."
Matthew 5 verse 16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
Matthew 5 verse 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[b]will be subject to judgment.
Matthew 5 verse 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Matthew 5 verse 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
Matthew 5 verse 34 But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
Matthew 5 verse 39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Matthew 5 verse 44 But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.
Matthew 6 verse 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.
Matthew 6 verse 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
Matthew 6 verse 25 "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear.
Matthew 7 verse 1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Matthew 7 verse 7 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
Matthew 7 verse 13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Matthew 7 verse 15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them.
Matthew 7 verse 24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
Matthew 7 verse 28 When Jesus had finished saying these things, the crowds were amazed at his teaching, 29because he taught as one who had authority, and not as their teachers of the law.
Good day and God bless!
Matthew 5 verse 16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
Matthew 5 verse 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[b]will be subject to judgment.
Matthew 5 verse 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Matthew 5 verse 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
Matthew 5 verse 34 But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
Matthew 5 verse 39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Matthew 5 verse 44 But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.
Matthew 6 verse 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.
Matthew 6 verse 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
Matthew 6 verse 25 "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear.
Matthew 7 verse 1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Matthew 7 verse 7 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
Matthew 7 verse 13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Matthew 7 verse 15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them.
Matthew 7 verse 24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
Matthew 7 verse 28 When Jesus had finished saying these things, the crowds were amazed at his teaching, 29because he taught as one who had authority, and not as their teachers of the law.
Good day and God bless!
First, let me just make a minor adjustment to Monet's comment: Jesus loves you; but He is not one of those "gods"
Hi, Bill..just want you to know I am on your side... I didn't refer to the One and Only God as a 'god'; that was just repeating what the atheist said..comparing the real true God to their gods. You and I both know there is only one God. The others gods (with small g) are only wood and stone (manmade)a product of their imaginations or, from what I have read, the Bible states that at one time the 'sons of God' came and had sex with human women producing giants in the land. These sons of god were fallen angels (demons)and the people began to worship them, making images of them, etc. So, I believe that this pagan worship is actually worship of demons.
I haven't been on line in a few days and apparently have missed a lot.
Hang in there, Bro!
Hi, Bill..just want you to know I am on your side... I didn't refer to the One and Only God as a 'god'; that was just repeating what the atheist said..comparing the real true God to their gods. You and I both know there is only one God. The others gods (with small g) are only wood and stone (manmade)a product of their imaginations or, from what I have read, the Bible states that at one time the 'sons of God' came and had sex with human women producing giants in the land. These sons of god were fallen angels (demons)and the people began to worship them, making images of them, etc. So, I believe that this pagan worship is actually worship of demons.
I haven't been on line in a few days and apparently have missed a lot.
Hang in there, Bro!
quote:Originally posted by Neal Hughes:
I love people who can dish it out in excess exceeding all bounds of taste and decorum, yet can't recognize humor when it hits them with a skillet.
I actually don't care what you teach, believe, write, pray or don't do. It is the secular United States of America, founded by Enlightenment-inspired True Whigs and not ordained by God, Siddhartha or any other deity or demidivine being to my knowledge.
This is called a "dose of your own medicine." You condemn people to hell without knowing one iota about them, are quite reactionary and vocal in quite obscure and minority views regarding politics and matters metaphysical and say your opinion is truth.
Unlike the Fundamentalist, I claim to have no answers for you regarding the foundation of the earth and life therein; about the mechanics for a proposed end of the earth; or even on why you should or should not to achieve salvation by my means or that of another.
I am tired of you denigrating people and posting the same old stuff over and over without an original thought coming out of your head. If you don't relish ridicule, then perhaps you should stop posting ridiculous things over and over and over again.
It isn't even any fun to mock your oddness anylonger, as you are a three trick pony: Obama bad, gays agents of Satan, and Bema Seat and Great White Throne Judgment along with the other tribulating and rapturing.
We get it. You are a fundamentalist. Great. Whootie Doo! I, along with the majority of people in this nation, am not.
My posting long tirades to you and your followers is a taste of how it feels to the orthodox Christian to be berated with your interpretation of matters personal over and over again.
By, the way, I found "Billvation" to be rather witty, myself. Did it tick you off? It was supposed to, to let you know how people feel when you mock their church or lack of belief and call you a sinner and cursed to an eternal flame unless you do it a certain way.
This gets saved in my "classic responses" folder.
quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
Oh, jeez,
Please do NOT give Joy margaritas. Pretty soon, she'll be up on the table, modeling the Vic's Secret "Soldier of Fortune" line.
DF
Your fantasies of Joy's lingerie collection gets more disturbing by the post.
quote:how people feel when you mock their church or lack of belief and call you a sinner and cursed to an eternal flame unless you do it a certain way.
Neal, I believe you stated earlier that you are Episcopalian...
if you don't believe in God why do you even bother with any church? I know the Episc. church is way too liberal, but why even put up the front? If you have no beliefs, why do you need a building? Or do you need a pat on the back from the other non-believers to feel justified? What exactly does the 'prayer book' say on that?
quote:Matthew 5 verse 16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
But, Braylan, you forgot to mention the scripture that states: "Don't cast your pearls before swine......"
After Jesus rose from the dead and returned to the disciples, spending 40 days with them, instructing them, he sent them out two by two to go into every town preaching the 'good news'. He told them to carry only the clothes on their backs and when they went into a town that refused to listen or didn't believe, to shake the dust off their feet, and leave them alone, to their unbelief.
I don't think God wants anyone to beat people over the head with the good news that God loves them, died for them, and has made a way for them escape the fire of hell. We lay it out for them...then let it go. They are then responsible for what happens to them. We have done our part. It is fruitless to continue arguing.
I don't think God wants anyone to beat people over the head with the good news that God loves them, died for them, and has made a way for them escape the fire of hell. We lay it out for them...then let it go. They are then responsible for what happens to them. We have done our part. It is fruitless to continue arguing.
My Dear Monet,
Do you not realize that we members of God's Favored Faith, aka, the Episcopal Church, are indeed blessed with a great deal of faith in practice? Maybe not so much with beating you on the head with a lead Bible as you might wish or taking fables literally, but it's there.
What proud little chapel do you attend my dear? Do you keep the snakes up front or bring them out? Can you dance without danger or hellfire? I guess a trip to Harrah's is out of the question, and I did so want to witness the joys of the French Quarter and Lower Canal with you!
Do y'all beat out the gay or just turn them out to the streets? What about witches? Burning or floating first? I've heard that Protestants do that quite frequently, and also believe in the Divine Right of Preachers and Republican Presidents.
Give me a break, girl! Where in the world did you get the idea that I am an atheist? I frequently post about church, spirituality, and other matters metaphysical -- and not always in a pejorative manner, either!
Do you not realize that we members of God's Favored Faith, aka, the Episcopal Church, are indeed blessed with a great deal of faith in practice? Maybe not so much with beating you on the head with a lead Bible as you might wish or taking fables literally, but it's there.
What proud little chapel do you attend my dear? Do you keep the snakes up front or bring them out? Can you dance without danger or hellfire? I guess a trip to Harrah's is out of the question, and I did so want to witness the joys of the French Quarter and Lower Canal with you!
Do y'all beat out the gay or just turn them out to the streets? What about witches? Burning or floating first? I've heard that Protestants do that quite frequently, and also believe in the Divine Right of Preachers and Republican Presidents.
Give me a break, girl! Where in the world did you get the idea that I am an atheist? I frequently post about church, spirituality, and other matters metaphysical -- and not always in a pejorative manner, either!
Hi Monet,
You respond to Braylan, "But, Braylan, you forgot to mention the scripture that states: "Don't cast your pearls before swine......"
And, then you add, "I don't think God wants anyone to beat people over the head with the good news that God loves them, died for them, and has made a way for them escape the fire of hell. We lay it out for them...then let it go. They are then responsible for what happens to them. We have done our part. It is fruitless to continue arguing."
What Jesus taught in Matthew 7:6, we have to put together with the previous verses. Leading up to Matthew 7:6, He teaches us to keep in mind that we, too, have sins and faults -- when we are looking at our brother or sister's sins. He is not telling us that we should ignore their sins and not correct our brothers and sisters in Christ; but, that we should make sure that we have washed our own hands first.
Then, in Matthew 7:6, He teaches us, "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."
What are these "pearls" Jesus mentions? It is the Word of God, Holy Scripture -- all the words of the Bible inspired by the Holy Spirit and written down by men -- for our edification, teaching, and guidance. These are "pearls" and we should treasure them.
Who are the dogs and swine Jesus mentions? They are those who are hostile to the Gospel. Our love for Jesus Christ and for others must not blind us to the fact that some folks have hardened their hearts in rejection of the Gospel.
As Pastor David Guzik of Calvary Chapel tells us in his commentary on Matthew 7:6, ". . . (the) Gospel may only confuse unbelievers, who are blinded to the truth by the god of this age (2 Corinthians 4:4) and may only expose the Gospel to their ridicule. Of course, Jesus did not say this to discourage us from sharing the Gospel. He says this to call us to discernment, and to encourage us to look for prepared hearts."
With that said, one might ask, "Then, Bill, why do your contend daily with the atheists, non-believers, and scoffers on the Forum?'
I will have to admit that I have often asked myself this same question. For, it can get very discouraging when I write a post and have ten to twenty angry rocks thrown at me by the atheists, non-believers, and scoffers -- and very few "atta boys" from fellow believers.
However, when I dialogue with the atheists, non-believers, and scoffers -- it is not necessarily for their sakes -- but, for the sakes of others who might be reading our dialogues.
If you were talking to one atheist, trying to share the Gospel, and he/she was ridiculing everything you said -- but, you look and there are hundreds of folks standing behind the two of you -- listening to everything being said; would you not be inspired to share the Gospel for their sakes?
When Jesus told us in Matthew 28:18-20 to Go, Make disciples, Baptize them, TEACH THEM -- He never said it would be easy. This is why He tells us to take up our cross and follow Him (Matthew 16:24, Mark 8:34, Mark 10:21). Taking up our cross to follow Him means suffering: sometimes physically, sometimes spiritually, sometimes psychologically -- as when scoffers ridicule us, Jesus Christ, and His Gospel. This is a cross we believers are told we should be willing to carry.
We must always pray that we can, through sharing the Gospel, reach the atheists, non-believers, and scoffers -- but, we must never lose focus on our main target audience. Today, there are 6952 registered Forum members. How many other thousands are just reading the Forums, but are not registered members? On the Forum, we typically find ten to twenty atheists, non-believers, and scoffers -- yet, God has given us this massive group of thousands standing behind; just reading. I call these the "silent majority."
Are all of those in the "silent majority" believers, seekers, or folks who at least have an interest in hearing the Gospel? No. But, especially with our home town, the Shoals, and with our home state, Alabama, being in the heart of the Bible Belt -- you can be assured that a large percentage of them at least have an interest in hearing the Gospel. These are the folks in my heart when I write a post on the Forum.
Monet, you tell us, "We lay it (the Gospel) out for them...then let it go. They are then responsible for what happens to them. We have done our part. It is fruitless to continue arguing."
Let's look closer at Matthew 28:19-20, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
In this passage, Jesus is not telling us to just tell them about the Gospel, then toss them a tract and walk away. He said to make disciples; a disciple is one who is learning. He told us to teach them. When you were in high school; if your English teacher had walked into your classroom, told you, "This is the English language and you will need to master it so that you can communicate with others" -- then, just handed you a text book and left to go home; how well would you have learned English?
The same is true with new Christians and seekers; we are not only to tell them about Jesus; we are to demonstrate Jesus to them; and we are to teach them, to the best of our ability, all that He has commanded us -- the Word of God, the Bible. No, we do not beat anyone over the head with our Bible -- but, we have it in our outstretched hands; ready to share it with them.
Before I shut up; let me share just one more thing which troubles my heart. For a year and a half, I have contended with our atheist and non-believing Friends on the Forum. We have often heartedly disagreed with one another; but, typically not in an offensive manner, never in hatred.
Yet, we have one Forum Friend, one who claims to be a believer and a member of a large denominational church -- yet, this Friend is so full of hatred and bitterness toward anyone and everyone who shares the Gospel. This truly makes me sad. I have often wondered if this person actually hates Jesus Christ -- or is this hatred only for those who are willing to share with others from the Bible? Hatred and bitterness, whether this person is a believer or a non-believer -- mainly hurts the one who holds this hatred.
My Friend, please remember that Jesus instructed all believers to be His witnesses in all the world; to share and teach His Word to all the world. Jesus did not tell that to just Baptists, or to just Methodists, or to just Catholics, or to just Lutherans, or to just Episcopalians. He said it to ALL BELIEVERS. In His church; there are no denominations; there are no traditions -- there are only the commandments to love the Lord, your God, with all your heart -- and to love your neighbor as yourself. I do pray that you do not have the same hatred for yourself as you display toward believers on this Forum.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
You respond to Braylan, "But, Braylan, you forgot to mention the scripture that states: "Don't cast your pearls before swine......"
And, then you add, "I don't think God wants anyone to beat people over the head with the good news that God loves them, died for them, and has made a way for them escape the fire of hell. We lay it out for them...then let it go. They are then responsible for what happens to them. We have done our part. It is fruitless to continue arguing."
What Jesus taught in Matthew 7:6, we have to put together with the previous verses. Leading up to Matthew 7:6, He teaches us to keep in mind that we, too, have sins and faults -- when we are looking at our brother or sister's sins. He is not telling us that we should ignore their sins and not correct our brothers and sisters in Christ; but, that we should make sure that we have washed our own hands first.
Then, in Matthew 7:6, He teaches us, "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."
What are these "pearls" Jesus mentions? It is the Word of God, Holy Scripture -- all the words of the Bible inspired by the Holy Spirit and written down by men -- for our edification, teaching, and guidance. These are "pearls" and we should treasure them.
Who are the dogs and swine Jesus mentions? They are those who are hostile to the Gospel. Our love for Jesus Christ and for others must not blind us to the fact that some folks have hardened their hearts in rejection of the Gospel.
As Pastor David Guzik of Calvary Chapel tells us in his commentary on Matthew 7:6, ". . . (the) Gospel may only confuse unbelievers, who are blinded to the truth by the god of this age (2 Corinthians 4:4) and may only expose the Gospel to their ridicule. Of course, Jesus did not say this to discourage us from sharing the Gospel. He says this to call us to discernment, and to encourage us to look for prepared hearts."
With that said, one might ask, "Then, Bill, why do your contend daily with the atheists, non-believers, and scoffers on the Forum?'
I will have to admit that I have often asked myself this same question. For, it can get very discouraging when I write a post and have ten to twenty angry rocks thrown at me by the atheists, non-believers, and scoffers -- and very few "atta boys" from fellow believers.
However, when I dialogue with the atheists, non-believers, and scoffers -- it is not necessarily for their sakes -- but, for the sakes of others who might be reading our dialogues.
If you were talking to one atheist, trying to share the Gospel, and he/she was ridiculing everything you said -- but, you look and there are hundreds of folks standing behind the two of you -- listening to everything being said; would you not be inspired to share the Gospel for their sakes?
When Jesus told us in Matthew 28:18-20 to Go, Make disciples, Baptize them, TEACH THEM -- He never said it would be easy. This is why He tells us to take up our cross and follow Him (Matthew 16:24, Mark 8:34, Mark 10:21). Taking up our cross to follow Him means suffering: sometimes physically, sometimes spiritually, sometimes psychologically -- as when scoffers ridicule us, Jesus Christ, and His Gospel. This is a cross we believers are told we should be willing to carry.
We must always pray that we can, through sharing the Gospel, reach the atheists, non-believers, and scoffers -- but, we must never lose focus on our main target audience. Today, there are 6952 registered Forum members. How many other thousands are just reading the Forums, but are not registered members? On the Forum, we typically find ten to twenty atheists, non-believers, and scoffers -- yet, God has given us this massive group of thousands standing behind; just reading. I call these the "silent majority."
Are all of those in the "silent majority" believers, seekers, or folks who at least have an interest in hearing the Gospel? No. But, especially with our home town, the Shoals, and with our home state, Alabama, being in the heart of the Bible Belt -- you can be assured that a large percentage of them at least have an interest in hearing the Gospel. These are the folks in my heart when I write a post on the Forum.
Monet, you tell us, "We lay it (the Gospel) out for them...then let it go. They are then responsible for what happens to them. We have done our part. It is fruitless to continue arguing."
Let's look closer at Matthew 28:19-20, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
In this passage, Jesus is not telling us to just tell them about the Gospel, then toss them a tract and walk away. He said to make disciples; a disciple is one who is learning. He told us to teach them. When you were in high school; if your English teacher had walked into your classroom, told you, "This is the English language and you will need to master it so that you can communicate with others" -- then, just handed you a text book and left to go home; how well would you have learned English?
The same is true with new Christians and seekers; we are not only to tell them about Jesus; we are to demonstrate Jesus to them; and we are to teach them, to the best of our ability, all that He has commanded us -- the Word of God, the Bible. No, we do not beat anyone over the head with our Bible -- but, we have it in our outstretched hands; ready to share it with them.
Before I shut up; let me share just one more thing which troubles my heart. For a year and a half, I have contended with our atheist and non-believing Friends on the Forum. We have often heartedly disagreed with one another; but, typically not in an offensive manner, never in hatred.
Yet, we have one Forum Friend, one who claims to be a believer and a member of a large denominational church -- yet, this Friend is so full of hatred and bitterness toward anyone and everyone who shares the Gospel. This truly makes me sad. I have often wondered if this person actually hates Jesus Christ -- or is this hatred only for those who are willing to share with others from the Bible? Hatred and bitterness, whether this person is a believer or a non-believer -- mainly hurts the one who holds this hatred.
My Friend, please remember that Jesus instructed all believers to be His witnesses in all the world; to share and teach His Word to all the world. Jesus did not tell that to just Baptists, or to just Methodists, or to just Catholics, or to just Lutherans, or to just Episcopalians. He said it to ALL BELIEVERS. In His church; there are no denominations; there are no traditions -- there are only the commandments to love the Lord, your God, with all your heart -- and to love your neighbor as yourself. I do pray that you do not have the same hatred for yourself as you display toward believers on this Forum.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Bill is so sadly dense that he does not recognize either humor or satire. Too serious, entirely for my taste. I only dislike people who spread manure and claim it to be the Word of the Lord. I detest people who take verses they select and use them to forward a political agenda and frequently post links to sites that denigrate other churches besides their small, little known, self-named "real" ones.
I don't cotton much to fellers who can't get a new trick for their pony, either, have sexual fetishes that they openly share to everyone and then won't admit defeat on scientific issues when called on it by experts.
I have even less use for passive-aggressive blowhards who hint around and won't call a spade a spade. If you mean me, then say it, think my widdle feelings will get hurt? I done lived in New York City and seen the Clash in concert and rode an elephant and started up a nuckleyar reaktor many times and crossed the Atlantic under water and nearly drowned doing it once. My feelings won't get hurt.
Parochial thought becomes no one, and cosmopolitanism is the epitome of a truly educated person, not repeating talking points over and over and over and over and over again as fact and not opinion.
Don't be such a dullard that you don't recognize humor any longer. Do you really think that I believe that all Baptists handle snakes or that the Anglican Communion are actually the chosen people of God? It is irony, and basically inverting what others state as "fact" here.
Go on, don't be a milquetoast, call me out by name if you don't like what I say. I have no qualms in doing so to you.
Twenty-three Skiddoo! I heard that President Wilson is getting fed up with the Kaiser, too!
I don't cotton much to fellers who can't get a new trick for their pony, either, have sexual fetishes that they openly share to everyone and then won't admit defeat on scientific issues when called on it by experts.
I have even less use for passive-aggressive blowhards who hint around and won't call a spade a spade. If you mean me, then say it, think my widdle feelings will get hurt? I done lived in New York City and seen the Clash in concert and rode an elephant and started up a nuckleyar reaktor many times and crossed the Atlantic under water and nearly drowned doing it once. My feelings won't get hurt.
Parochial thought becomes no one, and cosmopolitanism is the epitome of a truly educated person, not repeating talking points over and over and over and over and over again as fact and not opinion.
Don't be such a dullard that you don't recognize humor any longer. Do you really think that I believe that all Baptists handle snakes or that the Anglican Communion are actually the chosen people of God? It is irony, and basically inverting what others state as "fact" here.
Go on, don't be a milquetoast, call me out by name if you don't like what I say. I have no qualms in doing so to you.
Twenty-three Skiddoo! I heard that President Wilson is getting fed up with the Kaiser, too!
quote:Your fantasies of Joy's lingerie collection gets more disturbing by the post. Roll Eyes
Crusty,
My joke about Joy's lingerie modeling is just that, a joke. Not that she might not qualify.
Imagining YOUR lingerie collection would be disturbing. I need a brain bath now, just mentioning it!
DF
quote:Originally posted by Illusionist:
The early Christians were considered atheist because they did not worship God, but the worshipping of the resurrection of Jesus. It took them 300 yrs to try to get it right. Still not right! We are all familiar with the first historical Jesus, the second Jesus is of the institutional Christian church with its creeds and rituals that came into existence, over three hundred yrs. after the historical. Now the third Jesus is the mystical Jesus, the Christ consciousness, which emerges as we gain insight and wisdom after a deep examination and a new understanding of Jesus' words and deeds, which turns out to be the most authentic protrait, preached a gospel of enlightnment. As Deepak Chopra notes: "Your goal and mine isn't to imitate Jesus. It is to become part of him--or as he said to abide in him. We can do that at the level of consciousness by becoming part of the unending process that turns separation into unity." GOD IS, GOD AS, GOD AM. God does not judge, man judges.
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
Bill, I'm not reading all of that. If you want to respond, use the condensed version.
I'll buy you a beer too, same rule applies. No "lite" pisswater.
I'm hoping that when I retire, that I'll have the time to do nothing better than post extraordinarily long missives on religion that no one reads. Of course, I will put that time into my golf game.
quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:quote:Your fantasies of Joy's lingerie collection gets more disturbing by the post. Roll Eyes
Crusty,
My joke about Joy's lingerie modeling is just that, a joke. Not that she might not qualify.
Imagining YOUR lingerie collection would be disturbing. I need a brain bath now, just mentioning it!
DF
Not much to imagine - whitey tighties.
I get the jokes, that makes them no less disturbing.
quote:The early Christians were considered atheist because they did not worship God, but the worshipping of the resurrection of Jesus. It took them 300 yrs to try to get it right.
Illusionist, they did worship God..the trinity
God the Father, Jesus the Son, and they were filled
with the Holy Spirit. What exactly did they 'get right' 300
years later?
quote:Yet, we have one Forum Friend, one who claims to be a believer and a member of a large denominational church -- yet, this Friend is so full of hatred and bitterness toward anyone and everyone who shares the Gospel. This truly makes me sad. I have often wondered if this person actually hates Jesus Christ -- or is this hatred only for those who are willing to share with others from the Bible? Hatred and bitterness, whether this person is a believer or a non-believer -- mainly hurts the one who holds this hatred.
Bill you misinterpret most everything you read on this forum.
Let's discuss sharing for a moment. There is sharing, then there is sharing.
When I was a kid, my older brother somehow always managed to have things that I wanted. I would approach him and ask if I could have some of whatever. If he had a bag of M&M's he would always share. If he had a sandwich, he would share or make me one of my own. If he was going on a trip he would ask me to come along. I have a lot of respect for my brother.
I don't ever remember him coming up to me and stuffing M&M's into my mouth because he thought I would like them. I don't ever remember him forcing me to eat a sandwich because I looked hungry to him. I certainly don't ever remember him kidnapping me and taking me someplace because he thought it would be for my own good. If he had done any of those things, it would be very easy to hate him, or more likely work at persuading him to stop. I would have no respect for a person who treated me this way.
My point is this, if you want to be our brother, act like one. When we want you to share, we'll ask you.
quote:Originally posted by MonetsGroupie:quote:The early Christians were considered atheist because they did not worship God, but the worshipping of the resurrection of Jesus. It took them 300 yrs to try to get it right.
Illusionist, they did worship God..the trinity
God the Father, Jesus the Son, and they were filled
with the Holy Spirit. What exactly did they 'get right' 300
years later?
Back to history class with you, Groupie. It wasn't until about the 3rd century that the Catholic Church got everyone on the same page.
Actually later than that! The Arian "heresy" was in full swing with Germanic peoples save for the Franks until the 500s. Then came the Nestorian controversy, then iconoclasm in Constantinople, then the controversy over the filoque clause in the Nicene creed "and from the Son" in Latin as to the method of the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father -- one of the silliest controversies in church history ever.
Then the churches were four: Alexandria or the Coptic Church today; the Church of Constantinople or the Eastern Orthodox of the East; Rome; and of course the little known Damascus, or the Holy Orthodox Church of the East which is also known as the "Church of Martyrs."
Slowly, the Galician Church in France was subdued by Rome, as was Milan, and then Charlemagne forced the Roman rite upon all under his lands and converted the Saxons at knife point; the Celtic Church in Wales, Scotland, Man, and Ireland fell under Rome via Canterbury and the bishops were settled and no longer wandered in that part of Britain. Then came a pretty stable time in church history, until the Gnostic movements took their second wind in Bulgaria, Bosnia, and the Cathars of Southern France. Then came the Reformation and all heck broke lose.
Then came the settlement: all are darned by one group or another or pitied. Huzzah!
Then the churches were four: Alexandria or the Coptic Church today; the Church of Constantinople or the Eastern Orthodox of the East; Rome; and of course the little known Damascus, or the Holy Orthodox Church of the East which is also known as the "Church of Martyrs."
Slowly, the Galician Church in France was subdued by Rome, as was Milan, and then Charlemagne forced the Roman rite upon all under his lands and converted the Saxons at knife point; the Celtic Church in Wales, Scotland, Man, and Ireland fell under Rome via Canterbury and the bishops were settled and no longer wandered in that part of Britain. Then came a pretty stable time in church history, until the Gnostic movements took their second wind in Bulgaria, Bosnia, and the Cathars of Southern France. Then came the Reformation and all heck broke lose.
Then came the settlement: all are darned by one group or another or pitied. Huzzah!
Hi Crusty,
You tell us, "When I was a kid, my older brother somehow always managed to have things that I wanted. I would approach him and ask if I could have some of whatever. If he had a bag of M&Ms he would always share. If he had a sandwich, he would share or make me one of my own. If he was going on a trip he would ask me to come along. I have a lot of respect for my brother.
I don't ever remember him coming up to me and stuffing M&Ms into my mouth because he thought I would like them. I don't ever remember him forcing me to eat a sandwich because I looked hungry to him. I certainly don't ever remember him kidnapping me and taking me someplace because he thought it would be for my own good. If he had done any of those things, it would be very easy to hate him, or more likely work at persuading him to stop. I would have no respect for a person who treated me this way.
My point is this, if you want to be our brother, act like one. When we want you to share, we'll ask you."
First, Crusty, if it were only you and you did not want me to share the Gospel with you; I would honor that. However, considering that there are almost 7000 Forum members, and untold thousands of Forum readers -- many who want to hear the Word of God -- I will continue to share the Gospel on the Forum. Those who strongly dislike hearing the Gospel I guess can use the Ignore option and have my posts blocked from your computer. I would hate to see you do this; but, it is your option if the Gospel causes you so much distress.
Next, there are brothers and there are brothers. My brother, Bob, is my biological brother; yet, praise the Lord, he is also my brother, my Christian brother because we both follow Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior.
Crusty, if you are my Christian brother -- you should be happy to see me sharing the Gospel. If my sharing the Gospel with our Forum Friends rubs you wrong; either you are not a Christian brother -- or we are not talking about the same Gospel.
Who will oppose the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Obviously the non-believers, especially the atheists and agnostics, those in the secular world. For, to them, it is anathema. But, unfortunately, many folks in the more liberal churches today do not want to hear, or share, the full Gospel of Jesus Christ -- for it differs from their traditions.
Yet, the apostle Paul tells us in Romans 1:16, "For I am not ashamed of the Gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek."
What is this Gospel that Paul is not ashamed to proclaim? Ephesians 1:13 and Romans 1:16 tell us it is the Gospel of Salvation. Colossians 1:5 tells us it is the Word of Truth. Ephesians 6:15 tells us it is the Gospel of Peace.
But, Crusty, how about those who deny the Gospel? How about those who deny Jesus Christ? How about those who refuse to tell others about the saving Gospel of Jesus Christ, because it differs from their traditions? What does the Bible tell us about them?
In 2 Corinthians 4:3-4, the apostle Paul tells us, "And even if our Gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."
You might say, "But, I am not a non-believer. I believe in Jesus Christ. I am a believer."
That is wonderful. But, are you doing as Jesus Christ Himself instructs us in Matthew 28:18-20? -- "Go, Make disciples, Baptize them, TEACH THEM"
Are you doing as Jesus instructs us in Acts 1:8? -- "Be My witnesses in Jerusalem (your family, you community), in Judea (your state), in Samaria (your nation), and to the ends of the earth"
If you are not doing this, as He instructed -- then, why not? Is it because you are NOT a believer? Or is it because you are a Liberal Theology believer who refuses to take His instructions seriously?
Paul tells the folks of the Galatian church, and many believers today, in Galatians 1:6-7, "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the Gospel of Christ."
And, the apostle Paul tells us, in 2 Timothy 4:1-2, "I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction."
Then, Paul warns us, in 2 Timothy 4:3-4, "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths."
In 2 Timothy 4:5, Paul encourages us, "But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry."
Crusty, you tell me, "My point is this, if you want to be our brother, act like one. When we want you to share, we'll ask you."
If your brother, or your Christian brother, fell into the Tennessee River and was being swept downstream -- would you just sit down, watch him be swept away, while you wait for him to ask you for help? What if, in the fall, damage was done to his voice and he could not call for help? Would you just sit there, watch him drown, and justify it by saying, "He did not ask for help."
No, you know you would not. In the same way, our worldly brothers, our worldly sisters, our worldly family and friends are being swept away by the rushing waves of secular humanism. They are being swept into being eternally lost; yet their only means of seeking help, their spiritual connection with God, was severed by the fall, the disobedience, of Adam -- many of them cannot call for help -- because they do not know that help is available. We -- you, me, all Christian believers -- must stand tall, wave our spiritual arms, and tell them that we have the ability and the means to help them; to show them how to swim back to safe, saving, waters.
Will you refuse to do this for your brother? Will you chastise me, curse me, for trying to help your brother? I hope not; I pray not.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill Gray
billdory@pacbell.net
Alabama bred,
California fed,
Blessed by God to be a Christian American!
You tell us, "When I was a kid, my older brother somehow always managed to have things that I wanted. I would approach him and ask if I could have some of whatever. If he had a bag of M&Ms he would always share. If he had a sandwich, he would share or make me one of my own. If he was going on a trip he would ask me to come along. I have a lot of respect for my brother.
I don't ever remember him coming up to me and stuffing M&Ms into my mouth because he thought I would like them. I don't ever remember him forcing me to eat a sandwich because I looked hungry to him. I certainly don't ever remember him kidnapping me and taking me someplace because he thought it would be for my own good. If he had done any of those things, it would be very easy to hate him, or more likely work at persuading him to stop. I would have no respect for a person who treated me this way.
My point is this, if you want to be our brother, act like one. When we want you to share, we'll ask you."
First, Crusty, if it were only you and you did not want me to share the Gospel with you; I would honor that. However, considering that there are almost 7000 Forum members, and untold thousands of Forum readers -- many who want to hear the Word of God -- I will continue to share the Gospel on the Forum. Those who strongly dislike hearing the Gospel I guess can use the Ignore option and have my posts blocked from your computer. I would hate to see you do this; but, it is your option if the Gospel causes you so much distress.
Next, there are brothers and there are brothers. My brother, Bob, is my biological brother; yet, praise the Lord, he is also my brother, my Christian brother because we both follow Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior.
Crusty, if you are my Christian brother -- you should be happy to see me sharing the Gospel. If my sharing the Gospel with our Forum Friends rubs you wrong; either you are not a Christian brother -- or we are not talking about the same Gospel.
Who will oppose the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Obviously the non-believers, especially the atheists and agnostics, those in the secular world. For, to them, it is anathema. But, unfortunately, many folks in the more liberal churches today do not want to hear, or share, the full Gospel of Jesus Christ -- for it differs from their traditions.
Yet, the apostle Paul tells us in Romans 1:16, "For I am not ashamed of the Gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek."
What is this Gospel that Paul is not ashamed to proclaim? Ephesians 1:13 and Romans 1:16 tell us it is the Gospel of Salvation. Colossians 1:5 tells us it is the Word of Truth. Ephesians 6:15 tells us it is the Gospel of Peace.
But, Crusty, how about those who deny the Gospel? How about those who deny Jesus Christ? How about those who refuse to tell others about the saving Gospel of Jesus Christ, because it differs from their traditions? What does the Bible tell us about them?
In 2 Corinthians 4:3-4, the apostle Paul tells us, "And even if our Gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."
You might say, "But, I am not a non-believer. I believe in Jesus Christ. I am a believer."
That is wonderful. But, are you doing as Jesus Christ Himself instructs us in Matthew 28:18-20? -- "Go, Make disciples, Baptize them, TEACH THEM"
Are you doing as Jesus instructs us in Acts 1:8? -- "Be My witnesses in Jerusalem (your family, you community), in Judea (your state), in Samaria (your nation), and to the ends of the earth"
If you are not doing this, as He instructed -- then, why not? Is it because you are NOT a believer? Or is it because you are a Liberal Theology believer who refuses to take His instructions seriously?
Paul tells the folks of the Galatian church, and many believers today, in Galatians 1:6-7, "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the Gospel of Christ."
And, the apostle Paul tells us, in 2 Timothy 4:1-2, "I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction."
Then, Paul warns us, in 2 Timothy 4:3-4, "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths."
In 2 Timothy 4:5, Paul encourages us, "But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry."
Crusty, you tell me, "My point is this, if you want to be our brother, act like one. When we want you to share, we'll ask you."
If your brother, or your Christian brother, fell into the Tennessee River and was being swept downstream -- would you just sit down, watch him be swept away, while you wait for him to ask you for help? What if, in the fall, damage was done to his voice and he could not call for help? Would you just sit there, watch him drown, and justify it by saying, "He did not ask for help."
No, you know you would not. In the same way, our worldly brothers, our worldly sisters, our worldly family and friends are being swept away by the rushing waves of secular humanism. They are being swept into being eternally lost; yet their only means of seeking help, their spiritual connection with God, was severed by the fall, the disobedience, of Adam -- many of them cannot call for help -- because they do not know that help is available. We -- you, me, all Christian believers -- must stand tall, wave our spiritual arms, and tell them that we have the ability and the means to help them; to show them how to swim back to safe, saving, waters.
Will you refuse to do this for your brother? Will you chastise me, curse me, for trying to help your brother? I hope not; I pray not.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill Gray
billdory@pacbell.net
Alabama bred,
California fed,
Blessed by God to be a Christian American!
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quote:Originally posted by nealmhughes:
Actually later than that! The Arian "heresy" was in full swing with Germanic peoples save for the Franks until the 500s. Then came the Nestorian controversy, then iconoclasm in Constantinople, then the controversy over the filoque clause in the Nicene creed "and from the Son" in Latin as to the method of the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father -- one of the silliest controversies in church history ever.
Then the churches were four: Alexandria or the Coptic Church today; the Church of Constantinople or the Eastern Orthodox of the East; Rome; and of course the little known Damascus, or the Holy Orthodox Church of the East which is also known as the "Church of Martyrs."
Slowly, the Galician Church in France was subdued by Rome, as was Milan, and then Charlemagne forced the Roman rite upon all under his lands and converted the Saxons at knife point; the Celtic Church in Wales, Scotland, Man, and Ireland fell under Rome via Canterbury and the bishops were settled and no longer wandered in that part of Britain. Then came a pretty stable time in church history, until the Gnostic movements took their second wind in Bulgaria, Bosnia, and the Cathars of Southern France. Then came the Reformation and all heck broke lose.
Then came the settlement: all are darned by one group or another or pitied. Huzzah!
Back to history class, Crusty.
Hi to all,
First, Illusionist tells us, "The early Christians were considered atheist because they did not worship God, but the worshipping of the resurrection of Jesus. It took them 300 years to try to get it right."
Not true, my Friend. The early Christians were considered a sect; but, there was never any question that they worshipped the same God as those who were still in Judaism. Did they worship the resurrection of Jesus? No, they, and we today, worship the Resurrected Jesus Christ -- for in Him we have the promise of salvation to all who will believe.
Then, Monet responds with, "Illusionist, they did worship God..the trinity God the Father, Jesus the Son, and they were filled with the Holy Spirit. What exactly did they 'get right' 300 years later?
And, Monet is correct. We do worship the Triune God: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. And, it did not take us 300 years to do this; the Christian church began on the Day of Pentecost -- fifty days after the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
And, then Crusty offered, "Back to history class with you, Groupie. It wasn't until about the 3rd century that the Catholic Church got everyone on the same page."
Sorry, my Friend, but, as I said earlier -- the Christian church began on the Day of Pentecost. On the fortieth day after His resurrection, Jesus ascended into heaven. Before ascending He told His disciples, apostles and other followers, to wait in Jerusalem for what the Father had promised through Him -- the Holy Spirit.
The 120 apostles and disciples waited in the Upper Room, where Jesus and the apostles had the Last Supper, in fellowship and prayer for ten days. On the 50th day after His resurrection the Holy Spirit came upon all the 120 -- and, at that moment, the Christian church was born.
Peter, with the rest of the apostles, then went outside and spoke to the multitude which had gathered upon hearing the noise from the Upper Room. What was this noise? Acts 2:2 tells us that a noise like a violent, rushing wind fill the whole house. This was the Holy Spirit coming upon and empowering those 120 followers of Jesus, Christians.
The crowd gathered outside. Peter and the apostles went out and taught them about Jesus and the resurrection. That day, another 3000 became members of the new Christian church.
The apostles and disciples continued to teach -- and the church continued to grow. Today, we continue to teach -- and the church continues to grow. And, one day soon, the Rapture will occur -- and that will be the end of the Church Age which began on the Day of Pentecost.
That, my Friend, is the history of the Christian church. Over the centuries, many variations and traditions have been brought into the pure Christian church which was born on that wonderful day; but, the true Christian church is the one begun on the Day of Pentecost; and those churches which emulate that church.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
First, Illusionist tells us, "The early Christians were considered atheist because they did not worship God, but the worshipping of the resurrection of Jesus. It took them 300 years to try to get it right."
Not true, my Friend. The early Christians were considered a sect; but, there was never any question that they worshipped the same God as those who were still in Judaism. Did they worship the resurrection of Jesus? No, they, and we today, worship the Resurrected Jesus Christ -- for in Him we have the promise of salvation to all who will believe.
Then, Monet responds with, "Illusionist, they did worship God..the trinity God the Father, Jesus the Son, and they were filled with the Holy Spirit. What exactly did they 'get right' 300 years later?
And, Monet is correct. We do worship the Triune God: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. And, it did not take us 300 years to do this; the Christian church began on the Day of Pentecost -- fifty days after the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
And, then Crusty offered, "Back to history class with you, Groupie. It wasn't until about the 3rd century that the Catholic Church got everyone on the same page."
Sorry, my Friend, but, as I said earlier -- the Christian church began on the Day of Pentecost. On the fortieth day after His resurrection, Jesus ascended into heaven. Before ascending He told His disciples, apostles and other followers, to wait in Jerusalem for what the Father had promised through Him -- the Holy Spirit.
The 120 apostles and disciples waited in the Upper Room, where Jesus and the apostles had the Last Supper, in fellowship and prayer for ten days. On the 50th day after His resurrection the Holy Spirit came upon all the 120 -- and, at that moment, the Christian church was born.
Peter, with the rest of the apostles, then went outside and spoke to the multitude which had gathered upon hearing the noise from the Upper Room. What was this noise? Acts 2:2 tells us that a noise like a violent, rushing wind fill the whole house. This was the Holy Spirit coming upon and empowering those 120 followers of Jesus, Christians.
The crowd gathered outside. Peter and the apostles went out and taught them about Jesus and the resurrection. That day, another 3000 became members of the new Christian church.
The apostles and disciples continued to teach -- and the church continued to grow. Today, we continue to teach -- and the church continues to grow. And, one day soon, the Rapture will occur -- and that will be the end of the Church Age which began on the Day of Pentecost.
That, my Friend, is the history of the Christian church. Over the centuries, many variations and traditions have been brought into the pure Christian church which was born on that wonderful day; but, the true Christian church is the one begun on the Day of Pentecost; and those churches which emulate that church.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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On which day do the June Taylor Dancers appear?
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Bill, just curious, (I am new here)are you a preacher?
Crusty, I used to teach it! I had to be up to my Arians, Arminians, Cathars, Bogomils, Peaces of Westphalia and Augsburg, etc. Throw in Nicene's controversy over the one word "filoque" in Latin, and we had a right good test for the lads and lasses in ten Hoor to suffer through, courtesy of Mike Mendle, PhD! But not as bad as having them to recognize small things like Egypt is in Africa and that Israel was not a country from 77 AD (if Judea could be accorded that honor even then) until 1948. The biggie: "I don't care what you believe about Freud, Marx, or Darwin, they are important parts of Western history and you will learn a little about them." My turn the next day: "What is the specter haunting Europe?" A week later, "Why did the Duke of Cumberland become the King of Hannover instead of Princess Victoria of York?"
Not fun, but often funny. Especially for the laddies and lassies who never figured out that the essays were changed by section and every year and semester. . . made for some interesting "Zeros" on papers. "Sorry, the topic was Plato and the Parable of the Cave", not on Pericles funeral oration. That was a year ago. We change them occasionally."
I don't know when the dancers are coming out, but I am ready for a little high kicking myself, though a little sleazy Fosse might lighten up the joint as well.
Not fun, but often funny. Especially for the laddies and lassies who never figured out that the essays were changed by section and every year and semester. . . made for some interesting "Zeros" on papers. "Sorry, the topic was Plato and the Parable of the Cave", not on Pericles funeral oration. That was a year ago. We change them occasionally."
I don't know when the dancers are coming out, but I am ready for a little high kicking myself, though a little sleazy Fosse might lighten up the joint as well.
Hi Monet,quote:Originally posted by MonetsGroupie: Bill, just curious, (I am new here) are you a preacher?
No, I am not a pastor or preacher. For the last twenty years, I have been doing Christian writing. In the 1990s, I wrote, published, and mailed a Christian newsletter, The Good News, to over 400 homes in America and to 60 homes in 12 other countries. I did not charge for the newsletter; but did it at my own personal expense. My ministry is truly non-profit -- for, in twenty years, the only thing I have been given was one sheet of stamps, about twenty, to help in mailing the newsletter. Other than that; I have to say that our (my wife and me) ministry is not only non-profit -- but, has always been a big red ink hole financially. But, we have a reward waiting for us in heaven.
About ten years ago, I began doing my Friends Ministry sending an e-mail eNewsletter to over 600 Friends around the world. Over two years ago, I was invited to publish my Christian articles on The Conservative Voice web site which has a readership of over 250,000 around the world. I have probably published over 200 articles there. You can read my latest fifty articles by clicking on: http://www.theconservativevoice.com/profile/2674/Bill-Gray.html
In the last couple of months I have not been as active on The Conservative Voice as I would like; but, I do plan to get back to it.
For a number of years, I have been reading the TimesDaily Online just to keep up with events in my home town of Sheffield. But, I have avoided the Forum; for I typically do not like to get into forums and chat rooms. However, in January 2007, I noticed a discussion on the Forum titled "What Is A Christian?" -- and this interested me. Since I know that Alabama and the Shoals area are in the heart of the Bible Belt -- I wanted to see what my home town family was saying about being Christian.
What I really found in this discussion were several atheists and a number of non-believers trying to tear down the Christian faith. I began to post rebuttals to their claims. And, as they say, the rest is history. I am still rebutting atheistic rhetoric -- and will continue as long as God wants me active.
I enjoy discussions with my Forum Friends and find that I learn a lot myself while pointing out the errors of their way to the atheists and non-believers.
While I can understand the atheists and non-believers casting aspersions at me, for I am tearing down their paper houses -- I am truly saddened when someone will announce himself to be a believer -- and then attack me for sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It does not happen that often; but one person is persistent. I just ignore his rantings and dialogue with the more rational folks -- such as believers, atheists, non-believers, and scoffers.
You asked if I am a pastor. No, and I pray that God never calls me to be a pastor -- for the true pastors have a very difficult job. I love being an evangelist; my pastor tells me I am an apologist; and I love to lead Bible studies and Sunday School classes. But, I am not rugged enough to handle the task of being a pastor. I respect them; I help them; but, I am not one of them.
Monet, thank you for asking. I pray that I have answered your question sufficiently. And, welcome to the Forum Follies!
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Bill, it seems, is not a very good apologist, as he tends to alienate most with whom he comes into content with his self-appointed watchdog rants. He can tell you all about stuff that you never knew existed, like gay drill instructors and which bathroom to cruise to pick up innocent farmboys fresh out of bootcamp, as well as how one verse in Leviticus is a "keeper" but all that other is out.
Ask him about the Bema Seat Judgment some day, I never even knew that the non-mainline Protestants had cooked up another one until he began to post here!
I am sure that Bill is a charming elderly gentleman underneath all the venom and fury he presents to the public. This is his little vent after having to deal with visible air and Scientologists all day in California.
Either that or he actually has Rapturitis and gays on the brain. I hope for the former, that this is his little vent. He has such a wide audience, you know, it's like having Lewis Grizzard back among the living for the things that boy can write! A body not knowing any better would think he actually believed in all that rapturing and 1000 year reign of Our Lord on earth, Bema Seats, 7 seals, and such! At least he doesn't wish to impress Jodie Foster -- not yet -- at least to our knowledge. . .
Ask him about the Bema Seat Judgment some day, I never even knew that the non-mainline Protestants had cooked up another one until he began to post here!
I am sure that Bill is a charming elderly gentleman underneath all the venom and fury he presents to the public. This is his little vent after having to deal with visible air and Scientologists all day in California.
Either that or he actually has Rapturitis and gays on the brain. I hope for the former, that this is his little vent. He has such a wide audience, you know, it's like having Lewis Grizzard back among the living for the things that boy can write! A body not knowing any better would think he actually believed in all that rapturing and 1000 year reign of Our Lord on earth, Bema Seats, 7 seals, and such! At least he doesn't wish to impress Jodie Foster -- not yet -- at least to our knowledge. . .