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Virginia executes convicted serial killer after appeals fail

 

JARRATT, Va. (AP) — A 49-year-old convicted of murdering three people in Virginia and California nearly three decades ago was executed on Thursday after a series of last-minute appeals failed.

Alfredo Prieto was pronounced dead at 9:17 p.m. at the Greensville Correctional Center in Jarratt. Prieto was injected with a lethal three-drug combination, including the sedative pentobarbital, which Virginia received from the Texas prison system.

Prieto, wearing glasses, jeans and a light blue shirt, did not resist and showed no emotion as he was strapped to the gurney.

"I would like to say thanks to all my lawyers, all my supporters and all my family members," he said, before mumbling, "Get this over with."

The El Salvador native was sentenced to death in Virginia in 2010 for the murder of a young couple more than two decades earlier. Rachael Raver and her boyfriend, Warren Fulton III, both 22, were found shot to death in a wooded area a few days after being seen at a Washington, D.C., nightspot.

Prieto was on death row in California at the time for raping and murdering a 15-year-old girl and was linked to the Virginia slayings through DNA evidence. California officials agreed to send him to Virginia on the rationale that it was more likely to carry out the execution.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/law...nears-092928188.html

 

 

 

18 years for this one.

Georgia inmate Kelly Gissendaner executed after failed appeals

(CNN)After a five-hour delay, Georgia death row inmate Kelly Gissendaner was executed early Wednesday morning for her role in the killing of her husband.

Gissendaner was scheduled to die at 7 p.m. Tuesday, but her lawyers filed appeals to state and federal courts in her final hours to try to spare her life.

Her children had to make a heart-wrenching choice Tuesday: go see their mother one last time, or make a final appeal in front of the Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles.

"We chose to try and save her life, and they still denied us," daughter Kayla Gissendaner said outside the state's execution facility in Jackson.

Even a recent letter on behalf of the Pope wasn't enough to sway the parole board. 

So Gissendaner's legal team filed three appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court -- all of which were denied.

 

When Gissendaner finally walked to the execution chamber after midnight, she saw the witnesses through a window and began sobbing, witness Jeff Hullinger of WXIA-TV said.

She then made a final statement "apologizing to an amazing man that lost his life because of her," Hullinger said.

Gissendaner was convicted of murder for persuading her lover to kill her husband in 1997. She became Georgia's first female prisoner to be executed in 70 years.

As Gissendaner was being executed, the Gwinnett Daily Post reported, she sang "Amazing Grace."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/29/...ssendaner/index.html

 

A lot has been made of the fact that the actual killer didn't get death, because he "took a deal", and I don't agree with that at all. BUT, reports say she was offered the same deal and refused, and got death. IMO neither should have been given the option to deal and he should have suffered the same fate as she, but both of them sooner.

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Ga. man pleads not guilty to killing cellmate, gouging out eyeballs

 

ATLANTA -- A 33-year-old man has pleaded not guilty to strangling an LGBT activist and, months later, killing  a cellmate and gouging out his eyeballs.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that Donte L. Wyatt pleaded not guilty to 14 felonies, including two counts of malice murder, Wednesday in a Georgia courtroom.

Authorities say that Wyatt stabbed his estranged wife at a Henry County Waffle House restaurant before strangling Catherine H. Montoya in her Atlanta home. Montoya was an activist for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community. Wyatt's wife survived the attack.

On July 4, authorities say Wyatt killed 23-year-old DeKalb County jail cellmate Jah'Corey Tyson, strangling him and removing his eyeballs.

Wyatt's appointed attorney, Daryl Queen, said his client would undergo a psychological evaluation to determine if he's fit to stand trial.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/do...-cellmates-eyeballs/

Hey, all you hard-ass death penalty ghouls, check this case out.  If Hinton had been executed promptly like you suggest, an innocent man would have been killed without cause.  There have been about 150 cases like his in the last 25 years or so.

 

http://www.eji.org/deathpenalty/innocence/hinton

 

And here is another case of exoneration of an unjustly imprisoned man. After 20 years and after having been falsely convicted of murder,  Beniah Dandridge is released .  The so-called "good standard" of forensic science, fingerprint analysis, turned out not to be so golden in this case.

http://www.eji.org/node/1156

 

Both of these are Alabama cases.

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Hey you DA, murderer supporting ghoul, in the cases I listed there was no doubt about their guilt. So again, it should not have taken as long as it did, and there never should have been a plea bargain offered to any of them. Too many confess and only get what amounts to a slap on the wrist and are turned out to kill again, and they do. Tommy Arthur ring a bell? Ah, but you don't want to talk about that, do you?

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Hey you DA, murderer supporting ghoul, in the cases I listed there was no doubt about their guilt. So again, it should not have taken as long as it did, and there never should have been a plea bargain offered to any of them. Too many confess and only get what amounts to a slap on the wrist and are turned out to kill again, and they do. Tommy Arthur ring a bell? Ah, but you don't want to talk about that, do you?

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ALL death penalty convictions are presumed by judge and jury to be "beyond a reasonable doubt," Best. Ray Hinton was convicted "beyond a reasonable doubt," but now we know he was not guilty at all. 

 

Yes, some cases are markedly stronger than others, but the FACT remains that there are far too many people convicted of capital crimes they did not commit and sentenced to death by execution.

That fact has been demonstrated repeatedly and beyond doubt by the  Equal Justice Initiative and the Innocence Project. "Ah, but you don't want to talk about that, do you?"

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Beyond a reasonable doubt? Nothing removes doubt like a confession AND an apology to the dead person for killing them/having them killed

 

 

 http://www.nbcnews.com/id/1609...-again/#.Vg7Y6Dgo6vE

There are thousands of these, but again, you aren't interested in seeing the guilty punished.

 

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Not surprisingly, you make a fundamental error in logic.

 

You assume that since I am in favor of exonerating and releasing persons unjustly convicted and sentenced to death, that I am somehow soft or unconcerned about those who were justly convicted, then released only to kill again.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

My point, Best, is that there are all too many false convictions, accompanied by death sentences that, unless overturned (as in Hinton's case and thus far in about 150 others), will result in the execution of innocent people.

 

As to confessions, that is not a settled matter either. There are cases of innocent persons browbeaten into confessing crimes, even murder, that they did not commit, sometimes in exchange for  a life sentence instead of execution. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ng

 

On death row since 1999 for murders committed in the 80s. NO doubt of his guilt. But I guess I am a ghoul for saying he's long overdue for the needle.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/...a-Needle-3318245.php

 


 
 
 
Classification: Serial killer
Characteristics: Rape - Torture - Robberies
Number of victims: 11 - 25
Date of murders: 1983 - 1985
Date of arrest: July 6, 1985 (in Canada)
Date of birth: December 24, 1960
Victims profile: Harvey Dubs, his wife Deborah and infant son, Sean / Lonnie Bond Sr., his wife, Brenda O'Connor, and his infant son, Lonnie Bond Jr. / Clifford Peranteau / Jeffrey Gerald / Michael Carroll / Kathleen Allen / Scott Stapley
Method of murder: Shooting
Location: Calaveras County, California, USA
Status: Sentenced to death on May 3, 1999

 

Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Beyond a reasonable doubt? Nothing removes doubt like a confession AND an apology to the dead person for killing them/having them killed

 

 

 http://www.nbcnews.com/id/1609...-again/#.Vg7Y6Dgo6vE

There are thousands of these, but again, you aren't interested in seeing the guilty punished.

 

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Not surprisingly, you make a fundamental error in logic.

 

You assume that since I am in favor of exonerating and releasing persons unjustly convicted and sentenced to death, that I am somehow soft or unconcerned about those who were justly convicted, then released only to kill again.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

My point, Best, is that there are all too many false convictions, accompanied by death sentences that, unless overturned (as in Hinton's case and thus far in about 150 others), will result in the execution of innocent people.

 

As to confessions, that is not a settled matter either. There are cases of innocent persons browbeaten into confessing crimes, even murder, that they did not commit, sometimes in exchange for  a life sentence instead of execution. 

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MY point, the clearly guilty should not get to live for years after being sentenced to death. Life does not mean life, even for confessed killers. Too many are turned out. Out of those, too many kill again.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ng

 

On death row since 1999 for murders committed in the 80s. NO doubt of his guilt. But I guess I am a ghoul for saying he's long overdue for the needle.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/...a-Needle-3318245.php

 


 
 
 
Classification: Serial killer
Characteristics: Rape - Torture - Robberies
Number of victims: 11 - 25
Date of murders: 1983 - 1985
Date of arrest: July 6, 1985 (in Canada)
Date of birth: December 24, 1960
Victims profile: Harvey Dubs, his wife Deborah and infant son, Sean / Lonnie Bond Sr., his wife, Brenda O'Connor, and his infant son, Lonnie Bond Jr. / Clifford Peranteau / Jeffrey Gerald / Michael Carroll / Kathleen Allen / Scott Stapley
Method of murder: Shooting
Location: Calaveras County, California, USA
Status: Sentenced to death on May 3, 1999

 

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He could have shot the Pope, robbed Fort Knox,  blown up Disneyland, and gleefully stomped 1000 kittens to death and that would not in any way correct the deadly flaws in our criminal justice system that result in innocent people being unjustly sentenced to die by execution.

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Contendah-You may be convinced of Hinton's total innocence, but as one who followed the case at the time here in B'ham, I am not one of them.  For all the "overturning" of so-called evidence by Equal Justice, a lot of it could have went either way for guilt or innocence.  I am even personally acquainted with the writer of the column you cited, who is too young to have remembered/followed the case when it happened.  One of the "proofs" of innocence stated by the EJ folks is how he was at work when the crimes occurred.  While there were co-employees who testified to that, what they are not telling you is that at the time one former employee and once current employee testified at the time that is/ was commonplace for other employees to "cover for" or even clock in/clock out for others on a

regular basis, and those two witnesses are now deceased-even if the Jeffco DA was inclined to re-try him at this late date. Personally, I am convinced there were two people involved in the crimes and he was the "wheel man". So while I might agree with him being off Death Row for the possibility him not being the shooter-if I had been on the jury (almost was) I would have probably "hung" it by voting for guilt-but not the Death Penalty.

Originally Posted by MULE:

Contendah-You may be convinced of Hinton's total innocence, but as one who followed the case at the time here in B'ham, I am not one of them.  For all the "overturning" of so-called evidence by Equal Justice, a lot of it could have went either way for guilt or innocence.  I am even personally acquainted with the writer of the column you cited, who is too young to have remembered/followed the case when it happened.  One of the "proofs" of innocence stated by the EJ folks is how he was at work when the crimes occurred.  While there were co-employees who testified to that, what they are not telling you is that at the time one former employee and once current employee testified at the time that is/ was commonplace for other employees to "cover for" or even clock in/clock out for others on a

regular basis, and those two witnesses are now deceased-even if the Jeffco DA was inclined to re-try him at this late date. Personally, I am convinced there were two people involved in the crimes and he was the "wheel man". So while I might agree with him being off Death Row for the possibility him not being the shooter-if I had been on the jury (almost was) I would have probably "hung" it by voting for guilt-but not the Death Penalty.

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Who is this guy? Do you have a link to the story?

25 years. What will she do? Half? Less than half? But beternnun calls people who support the death penalty ghouls? What could be more ghoulish than supporting killers, especially child killers, and wanting them turned out after a few years? She was guilty, but of course, she got a plea deal.

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MINOT, N.D. (AP) — A judge sentenced a northwest North Dakota woman to 25 years in prison Friday for her teenage son's starvation death after defense attorneys and prosecutors reached a plea agreement.

Jessica Jensen, 36, of Kenmare, pleaded guilty to two charges: murder and child neglect or abuse. She had reached a plea deal in July that called for her to spend 16 years in prison for the January 2014 death of 13-year-old Aidan Bossingham, but a judge rejected the agreement.

District Judge Gary Lee said then that he could not agree to the terms given the evidence in the case "and the severity of the charges." Lee sentenced Jensen to the longer prison term on Friday.

Authorities have said that Jensen's son weighed just 21 pounds when he died. Jensen had pleaded not guilty last year to murder, child neglect and failure to report the death of a child.

In court Friday, Jensen acknowledged not getting proper medical treatment that would have saved her son's life and she cried as she apologized for her inaction, KXMC-TV reported.

Lee said he was relieved that no jury would have to view the photos he saw of the boy's body after his death.

Jensen was charged in March 2014 after the state medical examiner ruled her son died from chronic starvation due to untreated juvenile appetite disorder. Jensen told investigators that her son had a hormonal growth problem and that his pituitary gland did not function properly.

She also said her son would eat and then vomit, and that he had not seen a doctor for several years.

Defense attorney Tyler Morrow had asked if Jensen's scheduled trial could be moved to eastern North Dakota because of extensive news coverage of the case in the Minot area. Lee refused the request last week.

https://news.yahoo.com/mom-cha...years-212100873.html

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Originally Posted by MULE:

Contendah-You may be convinced of Hinton's total innocence, but as one who followed the case at the time here in B'ham, I am not one of them.  For all the "overturning" of so-called evidence by Equal Justice, a lot of it could have went either way for guilt or innocence.  I am even personally acquainted with the writer of the column you cited, who is too young to have remembered/followed the case when it happened.  One of the "proofs" of innocence stated by the EJ folks is how he was at work when the crimes occurred.  While there were co-employees who testified to that, what they are not telling you is that at the time one former employee and once current employee testified at the time that is/ was commonplace for other employees to "cover for" or even clock in/clock out for others on a

regular basis, and those two witnesses are now deceased-even if the Jeffco DA was inclined to re-try him at this late date. Personally, I am convinced there were two people involved in the crimes and he was the "wheel man". So while I might agree with him being off Death Row for the possibility him not being the shooter-if I had been on the jury (almost was) I would have probably "hung" it by voting for guilt-but not the Death Penalty.

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The prosecutors do not share your doubts.  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04...eed-murder.html?_r=0

 

Excerpts:

 

"But last year, the Supreme Court said that Mr. Hinton’s defense had been unacceptable, setting up a new trial and essentially forcing prosecutors to review the evidence for a case in which they acknowledged the forensic studies were paramount."

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"The only potential evidence that proves Mr. Hinton committed the murders “depends upon an absolute, conclusive determination that the bullets recovered from their bodies were in fact fired through the barrel of the firearm taken from the defendant’s home,” prosecutors wrote in their court filing on Wednesday."

 

 Later studies proved that this determination was in no way "conclusive":

 

"After a new round of analysis, prosecutors wrote, state experts “found that they could not conclusively determine that any of the six bullets were or were not fired through the same firearm or that they were fired through the firearm recovered from the defendant’s home.”

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I think they should toss the lethal injection method in the trash and opt for the captive bolt stunner method. Just rig one of those babies into the headrest of a chair and death is clean and instantaneous (or close enough for my satisfaction). It also leaves a nice pretty corpse for the more esthetically concerned.

Works for me.

 

Released to Kill Again

WAUKEGAN, Ill.  — Twenty years ago, when James Ealy’s conviction in the slaying of a pregnant woman and three children was thrown out on appeal, a Chicago judge warned that a menace to society was about to be turned loose.

Two decades later, prosecutors believe Judge Thomas J. Maloney has been proven horribly right.

Ealy, now 42, shuffled into a suburban Chicago courtroom this week, again accused of murder. Prosecutors say he strangled a Burger King employee last month with the bow tie from her uniform.

The circumstances were similar to those that led to his conviction in the 1982 murders. Ealy, then 17, was accused of using a piece of fabric to strangle 33-year-old Christine Parker, her two daughters, ages 12 and 15, and the older girl’s 3-year-old son. The boy, whose body was found curled up in a ball on a bathroom floor, had been also been molested.

When an appeals court later ruled that the evidence used to convict Ealy was the result of an improper arrest and search, Maloney issued his warning from the bench.

“When this dangerous man is released from the penitentiary, the state should rent every billboard in the county and state to announce that he has been turned loose on society,” he said.

One of the detectives who investigated that case felt sick when he started reading news reports that said a man named James Ealy had been arrested in the Nov. 27 killing of Burger King manager Mary Hutchison.

“I was hoping against hope it wasn’t the same guy, wasn’t our James Ealy,” Vic Switski said Thursday. “But when I got to the part she died of strangulation ... it was like I got kicked in the stomach.”

He added: “This guy was a dangerous predator out there.”

As for the judge who warned against Ealy’s release, he is now in federal prison, convicted in 1993 of taking bribes to fix cases. There have been no allegations he committed any wrongdoing in Ealy’s case.

At the quadruple murder trial, prosecutors presented several pieces of evidence against Ealy, who lived at the same Chicago public housing complex as the victims. The evidence included a signed confession and a piece of fabric found in his mother’s apartment that matched the material police said was used to kill at least one of the victims.

A jury deliberated for just three hours before finding Ealy guilty of four counts of murder in 1984, and he was sentenced to life in prison without parole.

But Ealy’s attorney appealed, arguing that the confession was phony and was beaten out of him and the evidence was collected improperly.

Conviction overturned, despite suspicions In 1986, the Illinois Appellate Court overturned the conviction — even as justices acknowledged Ealy almost certainly was guilty. They said police had arrested him without probable cause and conducted an illegal search, and they threw out virtually all of the evidence against him.

A year later, exasperated prosecutors said they had no choice but to drop the murder charges instead of retrying him, since the confession and other key evidence could not be used against him.

Ealy’s attorney at the time, Randy Mehrberg, said the justice system had worked.

“This is exactly the type of confession that the Constitution is intended to protect against,” he said in 1987. “You can’t have police going around and picking up people without evidence.”

Ealy remained in prison for an earlier rape conviction until 1993. He then went back to prison for another offense in 1996, and got paroled again in 1999.

Jailed without bail Ealy is jailed without bail in the killing of the 45-year-old Burger King manager during a robbery at a restaurant where he once worked. As much as $2,000 was stolen.

Investigators said Ealy came under suspicion when he and other current and former Burger King employees were interviewed. Police said they later searched his apartment and found cash from the restaurant safe, and also found evidence that he made a cell phone call to the Burger King on the day of the crime.

This week, Ealy told a judge his family was trying to raise money to hire a lawyer.

The chief prosecutor in the quadruple murder case, Brian Telander, said that he always believed Ealy would strike again.

“When the case got thrown out and he was released, I had this sinking feeling,” Telander said. “We were sick.”

 

 

Lisa Ann Millican[edit]

Lisa Ann Millican, a 13-year-old girl from Cedartown, Georgia was abducted by Alvin and Judith Neelley from the Riverbend Mall in Rome, Georgia on September 25, 1982.[4] She was taken to a Scottsboro, Alabama, motel where the Neelleys held her captive. During her captivity, Lisa was raped by both Neelleys, and Judith injected her with Drano in an attempt to poison her. On the 28th, Lisa was shot in the head by Judith and her body was thrown in the Little River Canyon in Fort Payne, Alabama.[1] Judith even called police to report Lisa's body.[6]

Janice Chatman and John Hancock[edit]

Janice Chatman and John Hancock were a young engaged couple from Rome, Georgia. On October 4, 1982, they were abducted by Judith Neelley.[4] John Hancock was shot while Janice Chatman was abducted and brought back to the Neelleys' motel room, where she was tortured and murdered. John Hancock, however, did not die, and was able to point to Alvin and Judith Neelley as his assailants.[6]

Best, you can serve up all the examples you wish of persons justly convicted for capital crimes and sentenced to death. Those cases have no relevance whatsoever to the instances I have cited where persons were sentenced to death for crimes later proven not to have been committed by them. Last night 60 Minutes featured the case of such an innocent  man, who spent 30 years on death row at Louisiana's Angola Prison.  He is one of "149 inmates freed from death row since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated capital punishment in 1976." Read about this case and maybe your attitude toward the death penalty will find a little room for adjustment, especially if you consider the very real likelihood that the system did not discover the innocence of a number of other death row residents in time to avoid killing them.

 

In an incredible miscarriage of justice, a prosecutor admits his cowardice and indifference led to the wrongful murder conviction of a man sentenced to death

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The following is a script from "30 Years on Death Row" which aired on October 11, 2015. Bill Whitaker is the CBS correspondent. Ira Rosen and Habiba Nosheen, producers.

 

There may be no greater miscarriage of justice than to wrongfully convict a person of murder and sentence him to death. But that's exactly what happened to Glenn Ford. He spent nearly 30 years on death row, in solitary confinement, in Louisiana's notorious Angola prison until new evidence revealed he did not commit the murder.

 

He was one of 149 inmates freed from death row since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated capital punishment in 1976. In all those exonerations, you have likely never heard a prosecutor admit his role and apologize for his mistakes in sending an innocent man to death row. But tonight, a prosecutor's confession. Marty Stroud, speaks of an injustice he calls so great it destroyed two lives: Glenn Ford's, and his own."

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Beternnun, you can post all the "wrongly convicted" cases you want, but they have no relevance to the thread I started, and they are not under discussion. I know you're senile, and you've lost almost all ability to understand and follow along with a discussion, BUT, I have explained to you enough times that it should have sunk into even your addled brain what this thread is about. It's about the proven guilty and the death penalty, and the ridiculous time it takes to carry out, the slap on the wrist some get when they should get death, or in the case of the POS he11bytch neelley, the shameful commuting of her sentence. If you want to whine about other things, make a thread.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

And beternnun, you can post all the "wrongly convicted" cases you want, and they have no relevance to the thread I started, and they are not under discussion. I know you're senile, and you've lost all most all of ability to understand and follow along with the discussion, BUT I have explained to you enough times that it should have sunk into your addled brain what this thread is about. It's about the proven guilty and the death penalty. If you want to whine about other things, make a thread.

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As to whining, it is you and others who incessantly whine about how long it takes to carry out a capital murder death sentence.  In response to, and ENTIRELY RELEVANT to that perspective, I have simply pointed out that there are numerous cases on record where persons sentenced to death have been exonerated and released after many years, sometime decades, of imprisonment on death row. Those persons, like the extreme cases you cherry-pick, were found at trial to be "GUILTY beyond a reasonable doubt," but in the end it was determined that they were NOT guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and in most cases were provably innocent, without any doubt.  Had there been a swift execution after trial, they would have been unjustly executed.  How many others like them have been unjustly convicted and unjustly executed because time ran out before some organization like the Innocence Project or the Equal Justice Initiative could get to their cases and engage the difficult and time-consuming process for exonerating them?

 

The price for saving the innocent from execution might be high, in your opinion, in terms of the appeals and delays sometimes encountered in the ultimate disposition of capital cases, but many of the same rules of criminal procedure, appeals, etc. that bring about those delays also provide time for exonerating the unjustly convicted.  In the meantime, the truly guilty are, and will remain, behind bars and thus in a place where they can do no further harm. Sometimes the price of fairness and justice is high, but has to be paid.

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As to whining, it is you and others who incessantly whine about how long it takes to carry out a capital murder death sentence.

Get over it, I will continue to speak out about  the failure to punish killers in a timely manner.

 

 

 In response to, and ENTIRELY RELEVANT to that perspective, I have simply pointed out that there are numerous cases on record where persons sentenced to death have been exonerated and released after many years, sometime decades, of imprisonment on death row.

And that is apples to oranges and not what is being discussed old man.

 

 

Those persons, like the extreme cases you cherry-pick, were found at trial to be "GUILTY beyond a reasonable doubt," but in the end it was determined that they were NOT guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and in most cases were provably innocent, without any doubt.

Well beternnun, when they freaking confess or a survivor says they're the ones I tend to believe it. And how is posting about them "cherry picking"? They're in the news you freaking idiot.

 

 Had there been a swift execution after trial, they would have been unjustly executed.  How many others like them have been unjustly convicted and unjustly executed because time ran out before some organization like the Innocence Project or the Equal Justice Initiative could get to their cases and engage the difficult and time-consuming process for exonerating them?

Don't know and don't care, it's not the subject under discussion.

 

 

The price for saving the innocent from execution might be high, in your opinion, in terms of the appeals and delays sometimes encountered in the ultimate disposition of capital cases, but many of the same rules of criminal procedure, appeals, etc. that bring about those delays also provide time for exonerating the unjustly convicted.  In the meantime, the truly guilty are, and will remain, behind bars and thus in a place where they can do no further harm.

They DO NOT always remain behind bars where they can do no harm. That is a downright lie and you know it. I have posted that IF life meant life, and they weren't turned out to kill again, that I might have a different opinion of the death penalty, seeing as how the POS get to live almost all their natural lives on death row. BUT you know d*** well too many murderers are turned out and too many kill again.

 

Sometimes the price of fairness and justice is high, but has to be paid.

 
 
 
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13 years for this POS if it goes through.

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Texas to execute man who fatally shot Dallas police officer

 

Witnesses testified that Escamilla was laughing at the hospital and boasting about killing the officer, court documents showed. A jury sentenced him to death in 2002.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-ex...ficer-111013606.html

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HUNTSVILLE, Texas (AP) " Licho Escamilla is slated on Wednesday night to become the 24th convicted killer put to death this year in the United States.

The 19-year-old was already wanted in Dallas in the fatal shooting of a neighbor when he got involved in a brawl outside a club, pulled out a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun and opened fire on police as they tried to break up the fight.

Escamilla's bullets twice struck Christopher Kevin James, one of four uniformed Dallas officers working off-duty security that night in 2001. Escamilla then calmly walked up to James and pumped three more shots into the back of his head before running and exchanging shots with other officers, witnesses said. A wounded Escamilla was arrested as he tried to carjack a truck.

The U.S. Supreme Court last week refused to review the 33-year-old's case, the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles on Monday decided against a reprieve and recommending clemency and no new appeals were in the courts Tuesday.

"He's a really bad guy," trial prosecutor Fred Burns said Tuesday. "I think what happened is the guy already committed one murder and figures that's what (officers) were coming after him for."

A warrant had been issued for Escamilla in the shooting death of a neighbor nearly three weeks before James' death on Nov. 25, 2001. Escamilla's trial attorneys told jurors he was responsible for James' slaying but argued it didn't merit a death sentence because James was not officially on duty, meaning the crime didn't qualify as a capital murder.

As the judge in October 2002 read his death sentence, Escamilla threw a pitcher of water at the jury, started kicking and hitting people and hid under the defense table until he was subdued by sheriff's deputies.

"It was a real scene," Wayne Huff, Escamilla's lead trial lawyer, said. "I don't think there was any real doubt he was going to be found guilty."

Testimony showed Escamilla bragged to emergency medical technicians who were treating his wounds that he had killed an officer and injured another and that he'd be out of jail in 48 hours. He also admitted to the slaying during a television interview from jail.

James, 34, had earned dozens of commendations during his nearly seven years on the Dallas police force after graduating at the top of his cadet class. He was working the off-duty security job to earn extra money so he and his new wife could buy a house.  A second officer wounded in the gunfire survived.

 

 

This story has been automatically published from the Associated Press wire

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13 years for this POS if it goes through.

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Texas to execute man who fatally shot Dallas police officer

 

Witnesses testified that Escamilla was laughing at the hospital and boasting about killing the officer, court documents showed. A jury sentenced him to death in 2002.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-ex...ficer-111013606.html

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HUNTSVILLE, Texas (AP) " Licho Escamilla is slated on Wednesday night to become the 24th convicted killer put to death this year in the United States.

The 19-year-old was already wanted in Dallas in the fatal shooting of a neighbor when he got involved in a brawl outside a club, pulled out a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun and opened fire on police as they tried to break up the fight.

Escamilla's bullets twice struck Christopher Kevin James, one of four uniformed Dallas officers working off-duty security that night in 2001. Escamilla then calmly walked up to James and pumped three more shots into the back of his head before running and exchanging shots with other officers, witnesses said. A wounded Escamilla was arrested as he tried to carjack a truck.

The U.S. Supreme Court last week refused to review the 33-year-old's case, the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles on Monday decided against a reprieve and recommending clemency and no new appeals were in the courts Tuesday.

"He's a really bad guy," trial prosecutor Fred Burns said Tuesday. "I think what happened is the guy already committed one murder and figures that's what (officers) were coming after him for."

A warrant had been issued for Escamilla in the shooting death of a neighbor nearly three weeks before James' death on Nov. 25, 2001. Escamilla's trial attorneys told jurors he was responsible for James' slaying but argued it didn't merit a death sentence because James was not officially on duty, meaning the crime didn't qualify as a capital murder.

As the judge in October 2002 read his death sentence, Escamilla threw a pitcher of water at the jury, started kicking and hitting people and hid under the defense table until he was subdued by sheriff's deputies.

"It was a real scene," Wayne Huff, Escamilla's lead trial lawyer, said. "I don't think there was any real doubt he was going to be found guilty."

Testimony showed Escamilla bragged to emergency medical technicians who were treating his wounds that he had killed an officer and injured another and that he'd be out of jail in 48 hours. He also admitted to the slaying during a television interview from jail.

James, 34, had earned dozens of commendations during his nearly seven years on the Dallas police force after graduating at the top of his cadet class. He was working the off-duty security job to earn extra money so he and his new wife could buy a house.  A second officer wounded in the gunfire survived.

 

 

This story has been automatically published from the Associated Press wire

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Keep it up, Best, but those kinds of stories do not address one of the screaming injustices of our time, namely the false conviction and wrongful imprisonment of far too many people by our flawed criminal justice system.

I really don't need your permission to "keep it up". As I posted, this thread is about justice denied for victims, or delayed way to da** long. I don't care if you whine about people you think were falsely convicted, even if there is evidence of their guilt, so why are you so upset that I want justice for victims, and I want it swiftly? Anyone that would argue that the POS I post about deserve to live all the extra years they do after being sentenced, are, imo, not much better than the criminals themselves.

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