The same race baiters who pushed for prosecution shot the bad guy when placed in similar simulations:

 

http://www.khou.com/story/news...department/22901953/

"But they also said the shooting occurred in an environment of systemic mistreatment of blacks, where officials traded racist emails and jokes and where minorities were disproportionately stopped and searched, fined for petty offenses and subjected to excessive police force."

The crackers are too busy working to get into trouble.

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Someone shoots and kills a "pick pocket" while they're waiting in line to buy freaking sports shoes that costs hundreds of dollars, and never get out of that line after the murder. The rest of the bunch praise the killer. There are no questions about why he had to shoot and kill the person. There are no wails that the shooter could have done something else. Oh no, only praise because someone dared mess with them while they were waiting in line to get their new shoes. Where are the riots and looting? Again, the cop needs to sue the crap out of that racist bunch, but of course if he does they will declare it a hate crime and go after him again.

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Around 5:30 a.m. officers responded to 447 Moreland Ave. regarding a shooting, and found the man, already dead, police spokesman Officer John Chafee said.

Investigators said the suspect approached a group of people who were waiting in line for Wish, a clothing and shoe store, to open.

“The suspect produced a firearm and attempted to rob the group,” Officer Chafee said. “One of the victims pulled his own handgun and shot the suspect.”

The shooter then got back in line, according to Channel 2 Action News. “He really stood up for all of us,” Mr. Taylor White told Channel 2.

He said he was in line when the shooting happened. “I salute the homie that did that.”

A parking lot attendant had warned customers that a man had been attempting to pick-pocket people in the area during the past week, according to the news station.

Jank,
Even if that is so, that does not make right to try and lynch a guy who was only doing his job and did nothing wrong!!

Have any of you read the report? Ferguson PD needs to be completely dismantled and rebuilt. If they don't make some major changes I have a feeling that the DOJ will charge them. Here is the report.

 

http://www.justice.gov/sites/d...epartment_report.pdf

 

Here is an article that gives a run down of the worst violations and practices of the FPD. 

 

http://mic.com/articles/111772...rse-than-you-thought

 

I hope they clean house at that PD. There are good police officers out there that would actually do their job with integrity. Maybe there are some in that department that will rise to the top once the scum bag racist are removed. 

 

HF, I have always said that there was no way for us to ever truly know what happened, so I can't say if the officer is innocent and just trying to do his job or not. Either way there was not enough evidence to prosecute. I'd rather see them err on the side of caution. 

The decorated officer "subdubed a black suspect without shooting" not the criminal who just robbed a store!

 

This report by the DOJ was just to save face, nothing more.  They had to come up with something.  If the police department had been 100% black, the statistics would still be the same.  The crime committed in this country is disproportionally committed by blacks, that's a fact that is not going away until the black community decides to change things.   The report stating that blacks were disproportionally cited for any offenses is not surprising considering the culture that most embrace. 

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I'm sorry, I still don't understand what you are trying to say. I am not being sarcastic either. Can you be more specific? Are you talking about Michael Brown, Officer Wilson, or someone in one of the links posted? 

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Hoob, I don't believe that is true. Either the report is not valid (and if its not then that would mean Wilson got away with murder) or it is. You can't have it both ways.

Also, if you read the report then you had to have seen the overwhelming amount of arrest that were later found to be wrong. For example the group of young black men that were arrested because the officer said he smelled marijuana and then after a search of their person and car there was no marijuana found. The black man charge because he said his name was Mike instead of Michael when ask. Using K9 units on black citizens when there was no call or need. The overall racism in that department is disgusting. The emails they shared within are proof of the racist atmosphere and callousness of those that were supposed to be protecting and serving their community with fairness and integrity. There is no doubt that many of those officers were biased against black people. 

https://www.tnvalleytalks.com/t...4#440543784627083614

 

Holder admits 'hands up don't shoot' was a lie. Ruined a lot of folks lives, oh well, their 'bad'. Oopsies and giggles.

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The DOJ has no credibility as long as Holder is in charge.  I don't care what they say either way, it means nothing to me.  They are driven by pure political motivation, nothing more. 

 

When a people embrace a thug culture, they should not be surprised when no one trusts or respects them.

 

Jank,

Officer Wilson was in the almost same exact situation earlier in his career.  He had a young black resist arrest and fight him and was able to control the situation without hurting the guy. The guy had i think 28 lbs of pot in his car and was convicted.  Officer Wilson Received a award for his actions on that day.   Hardly the gun happy cop out to shoot a black guy and ask questions later protrayed in the media.   

Mike Brown was a criminal who just robbed a store, was high and disobeyed instructions to get out the middle of the street.  I choose to believe the non criminal decorated officer instead of the criminal buddy who was with the criminal Mike Brown.

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Best doesn't pay attention to those kinds of findings, since they go against her "true believer" mindset on race and law enforcement.

hold on a minute, should officer wilson be given the benifit of the doubt ?  After all its wrong to judge one because the actions of others.  You know like you should not think the thug is a thug simply because he looks like one, he is probably a choir boy!

Hiflyer, I think we are talking about two different aspects of this DOJ report. I am perfectly fine with the finding on the part of Wilson. I personally would not want them to prosecute him if they didn't find any probable cause. What this investigation did uncover however is that there is quite of lot of racism and bias in that PD. THAT is what I was pointing out. 

 

Best original post seemed to want to ignore the fact that racism was found and evidence was provided to prove it. The citizens of Ferguson have obviously been dealing with it for a long time and the Brown/Wilson case just pushed them over the edge. 

BTW, I'm in no way disputing the finding of the AG office regarding problems within the FPD.  I've known a lot of black LEOs who would be very qualified to be Chief.  Question is, would they want it.

 

But!  I consider the riot to be a separate issue as I do the AGs findings regarding the use of force.  X number of blacks stopped for jaywalking justifies a riot?

 

Outsider instigator = Sharpton.

Not all the protesters were rioting. Matter of fact it was a small percentage of them. And yes I believe a lot of them were outsiders. The incident in Ferguson should not be defined by those that looted businesses. There were blacks from the community that stood outside of businesses and protected them from those that were there for no good. 

 

When I said "pushed them over the edge" I was not talking about the looters. I was talking about the fact that the people in that community knew better than anyone what the PD were capable of. They knew that there was racism going on and that they were being targetted by many of the officers. That is why they so readily believed that one of the officers could/would shoot a unarmed black man who they believed had been surrendering. 

I can't  even guess what I would do if I thought my son was murdered and the murderer was going to go unpunished. Can any of us? 

 

Right or wrong, Brown's family believed he was murdered. They lived there and had seen enough racism out of that department to make them believe it was possible. 

 

 

And holder, and obama

Racial Politics: Unable to pin racism charges on Ferguson policeman Darren Wilson in the shooting death of Michael Brown, Attorney General Eric Holder is using half-baked data to manufacture a case of racism against his entire police force.

Holder's race-baiting civil rights crew combed through several years of Ferguson Police Department data on traffic stops, searches and arrests and "found a pattern of racial disparities in Ferguson's police activities."

"African Americans are overrepresented in FPD's vehicular stops" and victims of "racial bias," Holder concludes in his report.

He notes that blacks accounted for 85% of vehicle stops, "despite comprising only 67% of Ferguson's population," while whites made up 15% of stops, despite representing 29% of the population.

So there you have it, a slam-dunk case of racism, right? Hardly.

Outrageously, the nation's top prosecutor failed to control for factors that explain the racial "disparity" in traffic stops, such as speeding, DUI, expired license plates, headlight, seat-belt and child-restraint violations and other reasons for being pulled over.

Holder's own department statistics show that African Americans, on average, violate speeding and other traffic laws at much greater rates than whites.

 

The Justice Department's research arm, the National Institute of Justice, explains that differences in traffic stops can simply be attributed to "differences in offending."

 

Duh. For another example, "Seat-belt usage is chronically lower among blacks," the NIJ says in a 2013 study. "If a law enforcement agency aggressively enforces violations, police will stop more black drivers."

 

It adds that three out of every four black drivers say "police had a legitimate reason for stopping them."

 

The institute cites two major studies on police profiling, one conducted in Savannah, Ga., and another in Cincinnati. Neither "support the perception that a high level of discrimination occurs prior to a traffic stop."

 

Perhaps the attorney general should read his own research before making wild accusations of racism based on specious data.

 

Holder also complains black motorists were more likely than whites to receive multiple citations from Ferguson police, proof in his mind that cops "enforce the law more harshly against black people than others."

 

"African Americans experience disparate impact in nearly every aspect of Ferguson's law enforcement system," his report finds.

 

But federal data compiled by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration show that blacks violate traffic laws at higher rates than whites in every offense, including driving with an invalid license.

 

Yet Holder makes it sound as if Ferguson police target blacks at random for stops for no other reason than "driving while black," and then pile on the tickets.

 

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Apparently Best can't be bothered with reading the report for herself. Or she might just agree with the racism and treatment of blacks in Ferguson by the PD. That would not surprise me. 

 

The tickets were a very small part of the report. There was an incident where a black man was sitting in a parked car at the park and he received (among other nonesense tickets) a ticket for not wearing his seat belt. He wasn't even driving! So when you add those kinds of "violations" into the equation it might appear that blacks violate traffic laws more.

Wasn't it you Best who recently posted an article and said that people shouldn't jump to conclusions without getting all the information? Take your own advice. 

A small part of the report.

 

Ferguson’s approach to law enforcement both reflects and reinforces racial bias, including stereotyping. The harms of Ferguson’s police and court practices are borne disproportionately by African Americans, and there is evidence that this is due in part to intentional discrimination on the basis of race. Ferguson’s law enforcement practices overwhelmingly impact African Americans. Data collected by the Ferguson Police Department from 2012 to 2014 shows that African Americans account for 85% of vehicle stops, 90% of citations, and 93% of arrests made by FPD officers, despite comprising only 67% of Ferguson’s population. African Americans are more than twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during vehicle stops even after controlling for non-race based variables such as the reason the vehicle stop was initiated, but are found in possession of contraband 26% less often than white drivers, suggesting officers are impermissibly considering race as a factor when determining whether to search. African Americans are more likely to be cited and arrested following a stop regardless of why the stop was initiated and are more likely to receive multiple citations during a single incident. From 2012 to 2014, FPD issued four or more citations to African Americans on 73 occasions, but issued four or more citations to non-African Americans only twice. FPD appears to bring certain offenses almost exclusively against African Americans. For example, from 2011 to 2013, African Americans accounted for 95% of Manner of Walking in Roadway charges, and 94% of all Failure to Comply charges. Notably, with 5 respect to speeding charges brought by FPD, the evidence shows not only that African Americans are represented at disproportionately high rates overall, but also that the disparate impact of FPD’s enforcement practices on African Americans is 48% larger when citations are issued not on the basis of radar or laser, but by some other method, such as the officer’s own visual assessment. These disparities are also present in FPD’s use of force. Nearly 90% of documented force used by FPD officers was used against African Americans. In every canine bite incident for which racial information is available, the person bitten was African American. Municipal court practices likewise cause disproportionate harm to African Americans. African Americans are 68% less likely than others to have their cases dismissed by the court, and are more likely to have their cases last longer and result in more required court encounters. African Americans are at least 50% more likely to have their cases lead to an arrest warrant, and accounted for 92% of cases in which an arrest warrant was issued by the Ferguson Municipal Court in 2013. Available data show that, of those actually arrested by FPD only because of an outstanding municipal warrant, 96% are African American

 

From Best opinion article:

"Holder's race-baiting civil rights crew combed through several years of Ferguson Police Department data on traffic stops, searches and arrests and "found a pattern of racial disparities in Ferguson's police activities."

 

2012-2014 is not "several years"

More...

 

This incident is also consistent with a pattern of suspicionless, legally unsupportable stops we found documented in FPD’s records, described by FPD as “ped checks” or “pedestrian checks.” Though at times officers use the term to refer to reasonable-suspicion-based pedestrian stops, or “Terry stops,” they often use it when stopping a person with no objective, articulable suspicion. For example, one night in December 2013, officers went out and “ped. checked those wandering around” in Ferguson’s apartment complexes. In another case, officers responded to a call about a man selling drugs by stopping a group of six African-American youths who, due to their numbers, did not match the facts of the call. The youths were “detained and ped checked.” Officers invoke the term “ped check” as though it has some unique constitutional legitimacy. It does not. Officers may not detain a person, even briefly, without articulable reasonable suspicion. Terry, 392 U.S. at 21. To the extent that the words “ped check” suggest otherwise, the terminology alone is dangerous because it threatens to confuse officers’ understanding of the law. Moreover, because FPD does not track or analyze pedestrian Terry stops—whether termed “ped checks” or something else—in any reliable way, they are especially susceptible to discriminatory or otherwise unlawful use. As with its pattern of unconstitutional stops, FPD routinely makes arrests without probable cause. Frequently, officers arrest people for conduct that plainly does not meet the elements of the cited offense. For example, in November 2013, an officer approached five African-American young people listening to music in a car. Claiming to have smelled marijuana, the officer placed them under arrest for disorderly conduct based on their “gathering in a group for the purposes of committing illegal activity.” The young people were detained and charged—some taken to jail, others delivered to their parents—despite the officer finding no marijuana, even after conducting an inventory search of the car. Similarly, in February 2012, an officer wrote an arrest notification ticket for Peace Disturbance for “loud music” coming from a car. The arrest ticket appears unlawful as the officer did not assert, and there is no other indication, that a third party was disturbed by the music—an element of the offense. See Ferguson Mun. Code § 29-82 (prohibiting certain conduct that “unreasonably and knowingly disturbs or alarms another person or persons&rdquo. Nonetheless, a supervisor approved it. These warrantless arrests violated the Fourth Amendment because they were not based on probable cause. See Virginia v. Moore, 553 U.S. 164, 173 (2008). While the record demonstrates a pattern of stops that are improper from the beginning, it also exposes encounters that start as constitutionally defensible but quickly cross the line. For example, in the summer of 2012, an officer detained a 32-year-old African-American man who 19 was sitting in his car cooling off after playing basketball. The officer arguably had grounds to stop and question the man, since his windows appeared more deeply tinted than permitted under Ferguson’s code. Without cause, the officer went on to accuse the man of being a pedophile, prohibit the man from using his cell phone, order the man out of his car for a pat-down despite having no reason to believe he was armed, and ask to search his car. When the man refused, citing his constitutional rights, the officer reportedly pointed a gun at his head, and arrested him. The officer charged the man with eight different counts, including making a false declaration for initially providing the short form of his first name (e.g., “Mike” instead of “Michael&rdquo and an address that, although legitimate, differed from the one on his license. The officer also charged the man both with having an expired operator’s license, and with having no operator’s license in possession. The man told us he lost his job as a contractor with the federal government as a result of the charges. 

 

Jank
Say what you want per-capital young black males commit more crimes, so in a mostly black community more will be stopped by police.  Sadly this is the case all across America and needs to be reversed, but not by ignoring the crime!  It needs to be stopped by the black community by teaching manners, ethics and by not tolerating crime.   Currently in Wisconsin another young unarmed black youth was shot.  His family is on the news demanding the officer to charged and saying over and over thier kid was not violent.  The only problem with that is he was a convicted felon for armed robbery and was already out of jail at 19. WGTBSM!!!  I am not saying this is not sad but hardly the polices fault!

Jank

 

I don't know Bud. Maybe when racism is no longer a wide spread problem then those that use racism to further their own agenda will not get the attention they seek. Ignoring racism, that is still plaguing this nation, is certainly not the answer. There are some that use the term too loosely, but to say racism no longer causes problems for blacks is not accurate or in anyway helpful. 

 

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I wouldn't say that, however ...

 

There will always be those race baiters such as Sharpton who will light the fires and fan the flames.  It's what they do, always have, always will.  They will attract followers.  And are allowed to go untouched.

 

So I see the problem within and without.

 

It was "Sharpton" racists who looted and burned those businesses.

Race has nothing to do with crime. We can find crime in all races. 83% of whites that are murdered are murdered by other whites. There are primarily white poor neighborhoods that are just as dangerous as primarily poor black ones. Education, poverty, and opportunity are the main culprits to crime. If we really want to see a change we will focus on these issues instead of the color of peoples skin.

 

This is a very good read on the subject.

http://www.nationaldialoguenet...g/poverty-and-crime/

 

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If we don't allow him to be the loudest voice then we can stop him. I try and call out racism when I see it. Even if it makes things uncomfortable. Sharpton gets the attention he does because no one with a better message is stepping up and taking his place. Just as the black community has to work within to make things better for themselves, the white community needs to do the same thing. When you hear a racist joke, don't laugh, speak out against it. When we see injustice being done to a minority group, stand with them, and fight beside them. I will be glad when we don't label people as black, or white, but just as humans beings. Of course I probably won't see that in my life time. 

All due respect, but who is this "we" you're referring to?

 

I don't know of anyone at this time, not even Klan, who represents a greater threat to race relations than does Sharpton, yet I've never seen him disinvited/disallowed to any black event even when his purpose was to incite.  It is "they" who allow it who must be the ones who end it. 

 

And "they"  include the DOJ but they have marching orders to see only one edge of the sword.

 

You asked previously, what can they do ... this could be a good start because mediating with anarchist [as defined during the riots by a black elected sheriff] ain't going to cut it.  Guarantee you this, Sharpton best not come to his town with mischief on his mind.

 

David Clarke, Wisconsin sheriff: ‘Al Sharpton ought to go back into the gutter he came from’

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Thanks.

 

Why isn't sharpton in prison?

Bud-

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/k...npaid-taxes-n1923307

White House Plays Dumb Over Advisor Al Sharpton's $4.5 Million in Unpaid Taxes

 

 

Why is this crook smiling?

MSNBC host, self-proclaimed civil rights activist, professional race-baiterand shakedown artist Al Sharptonapparently owes $4.5 million to the IRS in unpaid taxes. On top of this long list of titles, Sharpton also serves as an unpaid advisor to the White House and President Obama on civil rights issues, race and politics. In fact, just three days after the 2014 midterm elections Sharpton was invited to the White House to offer advice about how to work with the GOP in the new Congress. In August, President Obama spoke for Sharpton's National Action Network. The video of Obama's speech is available on the official White House YouTube page and is watermarked with the WhiteHouse.gov logo. 

"I want to say thank you to your leader, Rev. Al Sharpton, give him a big round of applause. I appreciate being an Action President."