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There's not a liberal alive that CAN defend their actions, They are moochers, gimmethats, and anti-American traitorious scum. How do they defend that?
Y'all are a bunch of self righteous, holier than thou, thinking you are 100% correct in every one of you pin headed thoughts. All you are really good at is posting ignorant lies that you get off your ultra right wing web sites. You wouldn't know a real liberal American if one of them hit you between the eyes.
jtdavis posted:Y'all are a bunch of self righteous, holier than thou, thinking you are 100% correct in every one of you pin headed thoughts. All you are really good at is posting ignorant lies that you get off your ultra right wing web sites. You wouldn't know a real liberal American if one of them hit you between the eyes.
I'll never know.
No real liberal American would think twice of laying a pinky on me.
Nothing to be learned from the second kick of a mule my pappy used to say.
jtdavis posted:Y'all are a bunch of self righteous, holier than thou, thinking you are 100% correct in every one of you pin headed thoughts. All you are really good at is posting ignorant lies that you get off your ultra right wing web sites. You wouldn't know a real liberal American if one of them hit you between the eyes.
There's no such thing as a real liberal American. As for the rest of your hissy fit rant,
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye
Luke 6:42 Or how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me cast out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote that is in thy brother's eye
jtdavis posted:Y'all are a bunch of self righteous, holier than thou, thinking you are 100% correct in every one of you pin headed thoughts. All you are really good at is posting ignorant lies that you get off your ultra right wing web sites. You wouldn't know a real liberal American if one of them hit you between the eyes.
jtdavis posted:Y'all are a bunch of self righteous, holier than thou, thinking you are 100% correct in every one of you pin headed thoughts. All you are really good at is posting ignorant lies that you get off your ultra right wing web sites. You wouldn't know a real liberal American if one of them hit you between the eyes.
Hey mook, what lie from what site? I see opinions from us, formed by learning the facts. Conservatives can do that you know, think for themselves and form opinions based learning the facts. Plus, if it came from a site we put in a link. Not like your, "you heard it or you got an email" cop out.
Liberals see any group that's not included in the present as under privileged, victims -- no matter that the supposed victims have ravished, pillaged and worse for centuries. Somebody hit one of JT's buttons.
Yeah, y'all hit my buttons. I started paying SS when I was 14. I served in the military and got a honorable discharge. I've gone to school or worked until I retired. I didn't get or do all those things that everyone of you accuse all liberals of. Yes I'm liberal, yes I care about other peoples welfare. Yes I think there should be a one payer medical health care in America. Why are we the only modern nation in the world not to have it? Why do other industrialised nations pay their CEOs 30 or 40 times the average worker, but the US pays them 500 times. Can that be justified? How?
jtdavis posted:Yeah, y'all hit my buttons. I started paying SS when I was 14. I served in the military and got a honorable discharge. I've gone to school or worked until I retired. I didn't get or do all those things that everyone of you accuse all liberals of. Yes I'm liberal, yes I care about other peoples welfare. Yes I think there should be a one payer medical health care in America. Why are we the only modern nation in the world not to have it? Why do other industrialised nations pay their CEOs 30 or 40 times the average worker, but the US pays them 500 times. Can that be justified? How?
One more time, there are no nations with single payer insurance.
Yeah, y'all hit my buttons. I started paying SS when I was 14. I served in the military and got a honorable discharge. I've gone to school or worked until I retired.
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Why do other industrialised nations pay their CEOs 30 or 40 times the average worker, but the US pays them 500 times. Can that be justified? How? - JT
You know the saying, JT, "trust, but verify."
And you know the drill. Need some examples / links. Apples to apples comparisons.
Start with what is the salary of the average worker in the US? And what is the salary the average worker in other industrialized nations?
budsfarm posted:Why do other industrialised nations pay their CEOs 30 or 40 times the average worker, but the US pays them 500 times. Can that be justified? How? - JT
You know the saying, JT, "trust, but verify."
And you know the drill. Need some examples / links. Apples to apples comparisons.
Start with what is the salary of the average worker in the US? And what is the salary the average worker in other industrialized nations?
Jt will need to take that up with his favorite party and favorite President. Dems owned both houses of Congress and the White House in 1993 when the tax codes concerning executive compensation changed. Before that they lived like royalty on expense accounts like the rest of the world's executives and our elected leaders so they didn't need large salaries.
Stanky posted:budsfarm posted:Why do other industrialised nations pay their CEOs 30 or 40 times the average worker, but the US pays them 500 times. Can that be justified? How? - JT
You know the saying, JT, "trust, but verify."
And you know the drill. Need some examples / links. Apples to apples comparisons.
Start with what is the salary of the average worker in the US? And what is the salary the average worker in other industrialized nations?
Jt will need to take that up with his favorite party and favorite President. Dems owned both houses of Congress and the White House in 1993 when the tax codes concerning executive compensation changed. Before that they lived like royalty on expense accounts like the rest of the world's executives and our elected leaders so they didn't need large salaries.
Exactly, their expense accounts paid for everything. One could read articles about flying to London to have bespoke suits made at less than the cost in NYC, of one ordered at least five suits (including the cost of air fare). The Japanese still have this type of tax exclusion, partially because of high tax rates.
jtdavis posted:Yeah, y'all hit my buttons. I started paying SS when I was 14. I served in the military and got a honorable discharge. I've gone to school or worked until I retired. I didn't get or do all those things that everyone of you accuse all liberals of. Yes I'm liberal, yes I care about other peoples welfare. Yes I think there should be a one payer medical health care in America. Why are we the only modern nation in the world not to have it? Why do other industrialised nations pay their CEOs 30 or 40 times the average worker, but the US pays them 500 times. Can that be justified? How?
You're a fibber, and still worried about what someone else has earned, and you have no idea how government works. Who did you work for at 14 that paid you by check and took out taxes and SS? Fibber.
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jtdavis posted:Yeah, y'all hit my buttons. I started paying SS when I was 14. I served in the military and got a honorable discharge. I've gone to school or worked until I retired. I didn't get or do all those things that everyone of you accuse all liberals of. Yes I'm liberal, yes I care about other peoples welfare. Yes I think there should be a one payer medical health care in America. Why are we the only modern nation in the world not to have it? Why do other industrialised nations pay their CEOs 30 or 40 times the average worker, but the US pays them 500 times. Can that be justified? How?
Who pays? Where does the money come from? Whose welfare do you care about? Certainly not American citizens since you are an anti-American Democrat.
Dire, Wikipedia says Canada and Taipan are single payer, lots of other nations are national plus some private.
Per CNBC, average Ceo pay in America in 2016 was 12.4 million which was 335 times average worker pay. Per Time money, same thing.
per Bloomberg, average US CEO made 16.85 million last year, world average was 6.51 million. China was 0.64
Gifted, I had SS held out of earnings on farm labor. If, I think, back then if a farmer was gonna claim a tax deduction and paid over $250 to a worker, SS had to be held out.Thanks for calling me a liar. Typical.
jtdavis posted:Dire, Wikipedia says Canada and Taipan are single payer, lots of other nations are national plus some private.
Per CNBC, average Ceo pay in America in 2016 was 12.4 million which was 335 times average worker pay. Per Time money, same thing.
per Bloomberg, average US CEO made 16.85 million last year, world average was 6.51 million. China was 0.64
Gifted, I had SS held out of earnings on farm labor. If, I think, back then if a farmer was gonna claim a tax deduction and paid over $250 to a worker, SS had to be held out.Thanks for calling me a liar. Typical.
I said fibber, so you lied, which is typical. I don't believe you about the SS either.
jtdavis posted:Dire, Wikipedia says Canada and Taipan are single payer, lots of other nations are national plus some private.
Per CNBC, average Ceo pay in America in 2016 was 12.4 million which was 335 times average worker pay. Per Time money, same thing.
per Bloomberg, average US CEO made 16.85 million last year, world average was 6.51 million. China was 0.64
Gifted, I had SS held out of earnings on farm labor. If, I think, back then if a farmer was gonna claim a tax deduction and paid over $250 to a worker, SS had to be held out.Thanks for calling me a liar. Typical.
My purpose here is just to point out that the economic structure of health care in other places just isn't what all too many people think it is. There's a large part of the American political class insisting that this is just obvious. We should have a national, single payer, health care financing system. And the amazing thing about this is that so few countries actually do that. And most of those countries who are thought to have better health care systems than the US don't do that either.
There are indeed national health care systems out there--but they tend not to be single payer. And there are single payer systems out there, or close enough at least--but they tend not to be national.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/t...ystems/#7c1ed4465c5a
Got that Jt? Comprehend it?
