I do thank we should give, but I have a friend who's family needs help, but instead of helping them he gives to the church, so is he wrong for not helping his family who is in need? I read Matthew 25:35-40 so is it better to give to the church than helping one who is in need? Just like to know.
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I have two relative comments:
1. Christians aren't commanded to tithe. They're commanded to give liberally.
2. This doesn't apply to money gained by stealing from cars outside the pool room.
i do tithe, it's right for ME. i have found that as i honor my commitment to tithe, God supplies more than i need for all other things. that isn't the reason to tithe, but it's just my experience.
As a rule of thumb, 10% of one's income is pretty generous.
I suggest one sends it to charities that actually do something besides building impressive edifices. Say, Doctors Without Borders.
DF
As a rule of thumb, 10% of one's income is pretty generous.
I suggest one sends it to charities that actually do something besides building impressive edifices. Say, Doctors Without Borders.
DF
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Then they'd lose the "my church is nicer than your church" argument.
Or a place to play basketball.
Or dating services.
Then they'd lose the "my church is nicer than your church" argument[best]
do they say that in Ardmore bestun?
Best, I had not thought of that.
For Pete's sake, we must have glorious churches while people starve.
What a fool I was.
DF
Nothing wrong with giving, but if that person is choosing a church over his/her own family then i'd say that is wrong. Especially if she/he gives because he was led to believe tithing money to the church is preached and commanded in the Scriptures.
1Ti 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
Short copy and paste below. Please read all of it and stop giving money to those lying thieves.
http://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.html
Tithing is Unscriptural Under the New Testament Parts I and II It is a sin to enforce tithing on New Testament Christians!
PART I
"Will a man ROB God?" How many untold tens of thousands of men will give account one day for teaching this verse in Malachi 3:8 totally out of context for their own sordid gain. I couldn’t count the times I have heard self-appointed ministers of the gospel berate their congregations and listeners for "robbing God" in tithes and offerings. This verse in Malachi certainly means what it says. Someone was defrauding God of tithes and offerings, but wait until you find out who it is that God blames for this act.
On any given Sunday morning there will be numerous men-of-the-cloth who will be bellowing out over the air waves that people are being "cursed with a curse" because they have failed to pay God ten percent of their paychecks. And should such a gullible listener decide to repent and give God ten percent of his salary, just how would he do that? Just keep reading. These men of the cloth who often have unquenchable worldly desires of the flesh, will be sure to give you an address where you can send them (or, ah, rather God) your tithe. And do they have a right to quote these Scriptures in this manner? No they do not, and furthermore they themselves know better.
SOME SHOCKING TRUTHS ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN TITHING DOCTRINE
- Abraham never tithed on his own personal property or livestock.
- Jacob wouldn’t tithe until God blessed him first.
- Only Levite priests could collect tithes, and there are no Levite priests today.
- Only food products from the land were tithable.
- Money was never a tithable commodity.
- Christian converts were never asked to tithe anything to the Church.
- Tithing in the Church first appears centuries after completion of the Bible.
Forget tithing and pay a few taxes.
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Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's
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FYI, the Salvation Army IS a church.
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FYI, the Salvation Army IS a church.
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Aha! Learned something new today... I'll take your word for it... Prob. a tax thing... Or really a church?
Is it also an army?
No, it is really a church with worship services and everything. They tell you their version of how the NT tells us to be saved. Not sure of all their doctrine, but they apparently can't read. I do not support the Salvation Army for that reason.
I've often wondered if the TD supported the Baptist of Methodist Church at Christmas, would people be so giving. Dove's remarks probably aren't that odd. So many don't know it's a church.
Good advice vplee.
Nothing wrong with giving, but if that person is choosing a church over his/her own family then i'd say that is wrong. Especially if she/he gives because he was led to believe tithing money to the church is preached and commanded in the Scriptures.
1Ti 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
Short copy and paste below. Please read all of it and stop giving money to those lying thieves.
http://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.html
Tithing is Unscriptural Under the New Testament Parts I and II It is a sin to enforce tithing on New Testament Christians!
PART I
"Will a man ROB God?" How many untold tens of thousands of men will give account one day for teaching this verse in Malachi 3:8 totally out of context for their own sordid gain. I couldn’t count the times I have heard self-appointed ministers of the gospel berate their congregations and listeners for "robbing God" in tithes and offerings. This verse in Malachi certainly means what it says. Someone was defrauding God of tithes and offerings, but wait until you find out who it is that God blames for this act.
On any given Sunday morning there will be numerous men-of-the-cloth who will be bellowing out over the air waves that people are being "cursed with a curse" because they have failed to pay God ten percent of their paychecks. And should such a gullible listener decide to repent and give God ten percent of his salary, just how would he do that? Just keep reading. These men of the cloth who often have unquenchable worldly desires of the flesh, will be sure to give you an address where you can send them (or, ah, rather God) your tithe. And do they have a right to quote these Scriptures in this manner? No they do not, and furthermore they themselves know better.
SOME SHOCKING TRUTHS ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN TITHING DOCTRINE
- Abraham never tithed on his own personal property or livestock.
- Jacob wouldn’t tithe until God blessed him first.
- Only Levite priests could collect tithes, and there are no Levite priests today.
- Only food products from the land were tithable.
- Money was never a tithable commodity.
- Christian converts were never asked to tithe anything to the Church.
- Tithing in the Church first appears centuries after completion of the Bible.
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I've also never found where the Bible says we have to give a specified percent. However, I tithe what I can when I can, because I want to. I also give to certain charities when I can. Dinosaur, if you give to your family or to charity, you are not robbing God. He told us to love one another. Heal the sick, feed the poor, etc. If your friend is giving to the church and refusing to help his family, I think he is wrong for doing so. That is just my humble opinion.
I've also never found where the Bible says we have to give a specified percent.
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"Tithe" means a tenth or 10 percent. The Old Testament law required that a tenth of all produce, flocks, and cattle be given to support the Levites.
I've also never found where the Bible says we have to give a specified percent.
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"Tithe" means a tenth or 10 percent. The Old Testament law required that a tenth of all produce, flocks, and cattle be given to support the Levites.
Ok, I did not know that. Thanks for the info!
Actually, if one counted special gifts that were required for the poor, etc., many gave at least 30% of their income. So the NT admonishment to give liberally probably means more than ten percent.
Here's a good link: https://www.ministrymagazine.o...of-the-old-testament