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JuanHuntJuanHuntHall of Famer
The travel and vacationing of former President BushII must have been kept secret, in the bunker with Cheney, as there was no whining about the behavior by any of the Reps or the Cons. Do partisan hypocrites know how entertaining they are?


# Number Of Political Fund-Raisers Attended By President Bush: 338

# Amount Or Money Raised At These Fund-Raisers: $802,586,070
(Some campaigns refused to disclose the amounts)

# Number Of Baseball Games Attended: 12
(Including Game 3 of the World Series in Yankee Stadium on Oct. 30, 2001)

# Number Of All Sporting Events Attended: 98
(Counting the Beijing Olympics as one)

# Number of Cabinet Meetings: 49

# Number Of Times President Bush Had Dinner Out At A Restaurant: 21

# Number Of Commencement Speeches Delivered: 23
(The last one was Dec 12, 2008, at Texas A&M)

# Number Of Visits To Camp David: 149, totaling all or part of 487 days.

# Number Of Visits To His Texas Ranch: 77, totaling all or part of 490 days.

# Number Of Visits To His Parents’ Home In Kennebunkport, Maine: 11, totaling all or part of 43 days.

487-Camp David
490-Ranch in Texas
43-Parents house
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1020 days = 2.79 years ON VACATION!

# Number Of Foreign Leader Visits To Camp David: 19, including 3 by British Prime Minister Tony Blair and 2 by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed al Nahyan of Abu Dhabi, UAE.

Number Of Foreign Leader Visits To His Texas Ranch: 20, including 2 by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia (Crown Prince at the time) and 2 by President Vicente Fox of Mexico.

# Number Of Out Of Town Domestic Trips: 609
(That's not counting Camp David visits or bike riding outings)

# Number Of Foreign Trips: 49

# Number Of Foreign Nations Visited: 75

# Number Of Miles Flown On Air Force One: 1,490,698

Cost of Air Force One operations is about $60,000 per hour.
(Presidential Airlift Group)
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JuanHuntJuanHuntHall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by longawaiting:
Give me a breakdown...1st 20 months of Bush's activities compared to obama's 1st 20 months.
Without a complete and accurate comparison with validation of your figures your numbers are meaningless.


That exact info is still top secret, but according to news reports:

Veteran CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller, a fastidious keeper of presidential statistics, has kept count. By his tally, Obama has embarked on nine “vacations” since taking office, bringing his total days off to 48. Some of those trips lasted a day and some, like his Christmas holiday in Hawaii, more than a week.

By comparison, Bush had visited his ranch in Crawford, Tex., 14 times at this point in his administration and spent 115 days there. And yes, Democrats let him have it, too, complaining that he was a chronic vacationer.

The revelation came this morning, when CIA Director George Tenet was on the stand. Timothy Roemer, a former Democratic congressman, asked him when he first found out about the report from the FBI's Minnesota field office that Zacarias Moussaoui, an Islamic jihadist, had been taking lessons on how to fly a 747. Tenet replied that he was briefed about the case on Aug. 23 or 24, 2001.

Roemer then asked Tenet if he mentioned Moussaoui to President Bush at one of their frequent morning briefings. Tenet replied, "I was not in briefings at this time." Bush, he noted, "was on vacation." He added that he didn't see the president at all in August 2001. During the entire month, Bush was at his ranch in Texas. "You never talked with him?" Roemer asked. "No," Tenet replied.
Jelb87Jelb87Everybody Knows My Name
I don't have a problem with these "vacations" for either President Bush or Obama. These men have the most stressful job in the world. The weight of the world is on their shoulders every day of the year. And yes, even when they are on vacation. A vacation when you are president of the United States is much different than those we all take. There is still a lot of work that goes on. The presidents go through daily briefings and decision-making. Let's give these guys a break. I respect their willingness to serve.
Flatus the AncientFlatus the AncientHall of Famer
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The travel and vacationing of former President BushII must have been kept secret, in the bunker with Cheney, as there was no whining about the behavior by any of the Reps or the Cons. Do partisan hypocrites know how entertaining they are?


You obviously have never heard of a search engine. Google delivers thousands of articles giving the data you want. As for presidential vacations, I am not sure I would call them vacations since they are constantly being briefed or when they are at Camp David (or Bush's ranch) they are surrounded by staffers and bureaucrats conducting business.

As for Tenet not briefing Bush about a terrorist wanting to learn about flying a 747, I suspect that would have been Tenet's decision. Perhaps because Tenet did not know more than what he knew, he didn't call because he didn't know the the rest of the plot. He didn't know what the plan was, where it was to be executed, when it would take place, or even how the airplanes were to be used.
JuanHuntJuanHuntHall of Famer
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Originally posted by Flatus the Ancient:
quote:
The travel and vacationing of former President BushII must have been kept secret, in the bunker with Cheney, as there was no whining about the behavior by any of the Reps or the Cons. Do partisan hypocrites know how entertaining they are?


You obviously have never heard of a search engine. Google delivers thousands of articles giving the data you want. As for presidential vacations, I am not sure I would call them vacations since they are constantly being briefed or when they are at Camp David (or Bush's ranch) they are surrounded by staffers and bureaucrats conducting business.

As for Tenet not briefing Bush about a terrorist wanting to learn about flying a 747, I suspect that would have been Tenet's decision. Perhaps because Tenet did not know more than what he knew, he didn't call because he didn't know the the rest of the plot. He didn't know what the plan was, where it was to be executed, when it would take place, or even how the airplanes were to be used.


Google must be too complicated for me. I cannot find a single news report of Conservatives criticizing BushII for his vacation habit.
Flatus the AncientFlatus the AncientHall of Famer
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Google must be too complicated for me. I cannot find a single news report of Conservatives criticizing BushII for his vacation habit


Oh, you only wanted GOP whiners. Maybe they didn't need to because the news media had it covered. Except for John Stewart, I haven't heard many negative statements about Obama's time away from the White House from the left either.
pineywoodscatpineywoodscatHall of Famer
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Originally posted by JuanHunt:
I specifically said Conservatives. You know, the TEA party participants that claim they were vocal critics of fiscal irresponsibility during the BushII cabal. Find an article by Will that criticizes BushII for vacationing too much.

Mad And from your list find 3 people that really gives a Flying Flip how many times they go or who they go with. Big Grin
JuanHuntJuanHuntHall of Famer
I can only imagine how hard it is to accept when your own hypocrisy is put in your face. But you must recognize it and move on to the real issues: gay marriage bans and the authenticity of all birth certificates.

Q: Has President Obama taken more vacation time than his predecessors?

A: According to one count, Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush spent more time on "vacation" during their first year than President Obama did. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton spent less time on "vacation."

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President Reagan and his wife, Nancy, also spent three or four days around New Year’s Day each year in Palm Springs, Calif., at the home of philanthropist Walter Annenberg. (In 1993 the late Mr. Annenberg founded the nonpartisan Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, which is FactCheck.org’s parent organization.)
marksw59marksw59Post Master
quote:
Originally posted by JuanHunt:
I can only imagine how hard it is to accept when your own hypocrisy is put in your face. But you must recognize it and move on to the real issues: gay marriage bans and the authenticity of all birth certificates.

Q: Has President Obama taken more vacation time than his predecessors?

A: According to one count, Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush spent more time on "vacation" during their first year than President Obama did. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton spent less time on "vacation."

Factcheck info

President Reagan and his wife, Nancy, also spent three or four days around New Year’s Day each year in Palm Springs, Calif., at the home of philanthropist Walter Annenberg. (In 1993 the late Mr. Annenberg founded the nonpartisan Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, which is FactCheck.org’s parent organization.)


Thaaat's right tote it boy, just keep on tote'n that water... Wink
marksw59marksw59Post Master
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Originally posted by JuanHunt:
I am immune to ad hominem attacks. I would prefer you explain the discrepancy in your newfound concern over presidential vacations, which is unwarranted, even when compared to previous administrations. Well, except for the two most recent Democrat admins.


That's the point, I don't care. Or didn't you get that? Wink
CageTheElephantCageTheElephantPost Master
Yes! Bush vacationed A LOT while in office! Congratulations on the crack research on your part. It's not like EVERY lib rag in the country did not run a story at one time or another on Bush's vacations. I just did a google search on it and the number of articles nearly crashed my computer!
How classless and arrogant is it for Obama to play golf every time he visits the Gulf? And now he "takes a swim". He is supposed to be leading by example, but whenever the stress of dealing with a serious problem comes his way, he would rather play golf, go to Camp David, or waste MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars with one of his frequent "campaign trips" or a quick 11 day jaunt to Hawaii. Do you have any idea how many millions it takes to fly the president one way to Hawaii with all of the support staff, vehicles, aviation fuel, and personnel that have to travel with him?

No! Obama will do everything he can to monitor his vacation days and make sure he does not surpass Bush. You can count on that. However, this country is at war, still, in an unemployment crisis, an economic crisis, a housing crisis, and a debt/deficit crisis. (quadrupling the debt in less than one year in office ). This nonchalant, disengaged, attitude Obama is showing only increases the certainty of his presidency being a one term presidency.
elinterventor01elinterventor01Post Master
For the health and safety of the Republic, I wish Obama many vacations over the next two years. I read the Oval office was just remodeled. Seems a bit over much for someone who will only occupy the place for 28 more months. Hope its in good taste so the next occupant won't have to go to the expense of changing the decor. Except, for requesting the Brits send back a bust of Churchill.

Camp David, to be fair, is a cheap vacation. Its local and the complex is set up for the Cabinet to work and reside on site.
Renegade NationRenegade NationHall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by JuanHunt:
The travel and vacationing of former President BushII must have been kept secret, in the bunker with Cheney, as there was no whining about the behavior by any of the Reps or the Cons. Do partisan hypocrites know how entertaining they are?


What's really entertaining is a partisan liberal complaining and trying to "call out" partisan republicans for doing the exact same thing they did for 8 years of Bush...talk about hypocrites...

Partisan politics = hypocrites (Left & Right)
JuanHuntJuanHuntHall of Famer
It's not the same because the Right purports to be more honest, law-abiding, and moral than the Left. Yet, the Right is gung-ho to deny the Constitutional rights of millions of Muslim Americans to practice their religion as they please.

The Right has proclaimed that the criticism of OBama is due to his failure to adhere to the USConstitution and his semi-socialist policies, yet the tirades over his vacations is completely disproportionate to the furor that was raged over BushII's similar behavior.

BushII had 8 years to prove himself a conservative and he failed. Yet, come November, the Right is going to go and elect more Reps and expect a different result. That guarantees failure. After 100 years, its time for a change.
Renegade NationRenegade NationHall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by JuanHunt:
It's not the same because the Right purports to be more honest, law-abiding, and moral than the Left. Yet, the Right is gung-ho to deny the Constitutional rights of millions of Muslim Americans to practice their religion as they please.

The Right has proclaimed that the criticism of OBama is due to his failure to adhere to the USConstitution and his semi-socialist policies, yet the tirades over his vacations is completely disproportionate to the furor that was raged over BushII's similar behavior.

BushII had 8 years to prove himself a conservative and he failed. Yet, come November, the Right is going to go and elect more Reps and expect a different result. That guarantees failure. After 100 years, its time for a change.


I don't dispute what you say...in fact, like I said above...Partisan politics = hypocrites.

Maybe you missed this part Left & Right

And yes the left does claim to be "moral", "right", etc...
ferrelljferrelljOld Faithful
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Originally posted by b50m:
If you checked your sources, you will find that Bush had 'working' vacations at Crawford. He usually had his top staff with him.

Obama takes Sasha and Malia, adorable girls, but I doubt they know foreign policy.


I would be willing to bet Sasha and Malia know about as much foreign policy as their dad. Big Grin
teyatesteyatesOld Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by JuanHunt:
It's not the same because the Right purports to be more honest, law-abiding, and moral than the Left. Yet, the Right is gung-ho to deny the Constitutional rights of millions of Muslim Americans to practice their religion as they please.

The Right has proclaimed that the criticism of OBama is due to his failure to adhere to the USConstitution and his semi-socialist policies, yet the tirades over his vacations is completely disproportionate to the furor that was raged over BushII's similar behavior.

BushII had 8 years to prove himself a conservative and he failed. Yet, come November, the Right is going to go and elect more Reps and expect a different result. That guarantees failure. After 100 years, its time for a change.


Wait a mintue...change...I thought we got that with Obama? No thats right we got more lying, cheating, vacationing, and government intrusion. Except this one claims to be a liberal. Gitmo is till there (not that I disagree, but lets face it, he claimed he would close it. He opened up the front in Afghanistan after running on a compaign to be a more peaceful loving nation. We rammed thru his healthcare policy, despite the fact that 60% of voters have said they did not want it. No change in the ability to spy on the consituents. Transparency in government? WTH is that????? All of this and a forthcoming tax bill the highest of anything seen by a living taxpaying worker in the US. Yeah, I'd say we need more change like what we got now.....yechhhh
elinterventor01elinterventor01Post Master
quote:
Originally posted by JuanHunt:
It's not the same because the Right purports to be more honest, law-abiding, and moral than the Left. Yet, the Right is gung-ho to deny the Constitutional rights of millions of Muslim Americans to practice their religion as they please.

The Right has proclaimed that the criticism of OBama is due to his failure to adhere to the USConstitution and his semi-socialist policies, yet the tirades over his vacations is completely disproportionate to the furor that was raged over BushII's similar behavior.

BushII had 8 years to prove himself a conservative and he failed. Yet, come November, the Right is going to go and elect more Reps and expect a different result. That guarantees failure. After 100 years, its time for a change.


Requesting they move a community center a couple of blocks is hardly denying freedom of religion. What ever happened to the left's cry of the need to be sympathetic to others?
ferrelljferrelljOld Faithful
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Originally posted by O No!:
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I would be willing to bet Sasha and Malia know about as much foreign policy as their dad.



I don't know about that but I guarantee they know more about it than Sarah Palin!! Wink


It may come as a shock to you but Sarah Palin has nothing to do with foreign policy. Nice try though to deflect Obama's shortcomings to Sarah. Too bad it doesn't work.

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