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Kraven posted:

What stuff..??

"I was in the room, it didn't happen," H.R. McMaster, Trump's national security adviser, told reporters outside the White House late Monday.

"The president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries including threats to civil aviation," McMaster said. "At no time, at no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed and the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known."

He said Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Dina Powell, deputy national security adviser for strategy, remember the meeting the same way. "Their on-the-record accounts should outweigh those of anonymous sources" in the news report, he said.

But while White House officials denied that any intelligence sources or methods were discussed, they did not deny that Trump shared the information about the use of laptop computers on aircraft. The Post story does not claim that Trump revealed any specific information about how the intelligence was gathered.

The story will only heighten Trump's strained relations with intelligence workers and former officials, who have expressed worry about sharing classified information with a former New York business magnate who often shoots from the hip.

It's unlikely that Trump has broken any law.

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jtdavis posted:

If the left should ever protect terrorists the way you protect Trump and other right wingnuts, your outcry could be heard on the moon.

It's not Trump protection as much as it's protecting the Country
from it's collapse by way of the people who have shown they
are willing to turn everything over to the enemies in our
government and those who were controlling our government.
Hopefully it can always be stopped, but not likely. 
Too many people, you for instance JT, aren't in a frame of mind
to comprehend the clear and present dangers dealt with everyday.   
jtdavis posted:

If the left should ever protect terrorists the way you protect Trump and other right wingnuts, your outcry could be heard on the moon.

There IS an outcry. You lefties ignore it and sue anyone that dares to speak up. Then your corrupt anti-American politicans and lawyers work against anyone that tries to make or inforce laws against the terrorists.

You right wingers keep posting about how lefties want to give away the US. Do any of you want to talk about Trump giving the Russians top level security details that was given to the US by Israel and not supposed to be blabbed to others. Do you want to talk about Trump refusing to shake Angela Merkels hand? Do you want to talk about any other of Trumps lies. I suppose not, in your eyes you and him are prefect.

jtdavis posted:

You right wingers keep posting about how lefties want to give away the US. Do any of you want to talk about Trump giving the Russians top level security details that was given to the US by Israel and not supposed to be blabbed to others. Do you want to talk about Trump refusing to shake Angela Merkels hand? Do you want to talk about any other of Trumps lies. I suppose not, in your eyes you and him are prefect.

President Trump is "no's wheres close" to being perfect but, I'm about as close as an ape descendant can get.

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jtdavis posted:

You right wingers keep posting about how lefties want to give away the US. Do any of you want to talk about Trump giving the Russians top level security details that was given to the US by Israel and not supposed to be blabbed to others. Do you want to talk about Trump refusing to shake Angela Merkels hand? Do you want to talk about any other of Trumps lies. I suppose not, in your eyes you and him are prefect.

I'll answer you, that's more than you ever do. You NEVER answer questions. Trump gave nothing to Russia that he was not at liberty to give, and he did not give them any classified/secret information.

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Jt-Why are YOU upset that he didn't shake merkels hand? Because she's turning germany over to the muslim terrorists is  making her a hero of the left?

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"I don't think he heard the question" posed by Merkel when she suggested they shake hands, in full view of press cameras, spokesperson Sean Spicer told German weekly Der Spiegel published Sunday.

The quote was translated into English from Der Spiegel's online German website.

The veteran German chancellor had arrived for her first meeting with Trump at a snowy White House hoping to reverse a chill in relations after Trump's incendiary election rhetoric, in which he called Merkel's acceptance of refugees a "catastrophic mistake" and suggested she was "ruining Germany."

The visit on Friday began cordially, with the pair shaking hands at the entrance of the White House. But later, sitting side-by-side in the Oval Office, Merkel's suggestion of another handshake went unheard or ignored by Trump -- an awkward moment in what are usually highly scripted occasions.

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What lies do you claim he made that you want to discuss, and why, seeing as how you never want to discuss the lies the slops tell? You never addressed the lie you told about me today.

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While not specifically deny that sensitive information came up at Mr. Trump's meeting with Russian officials, McMaster added that "the story that came out tonight as reported is false."

Kremlin officials also supported Mr. Trump's claims, calling the reports that the U.S. president disclosed intelligence "complete nonsense."

"It's not a subject for us, it's the latest piece of nonsense. We don't want to have anything to do with this nonsense. It's complete nonsense, not a subject to be denied or confirmed," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on a conference call with reporters.

jtdavis posted:

Israel and the US had a special relationship until blabbermouth Trump told the Russians in a private (no US press, only Russian press)meeting what top secret info the Israel intelligence had passed to us. Now, they probably ain't gonna give us any more terrorism info.  

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jtdavis posted:

Israel and the US had a special relationship until blabbermouth Trump told the Russians in a private (no US press, only Russian press)meeting what top secret info the Israel intelligence had passed to us. Now, they probably ain't gonna give us any more terrorism info.  

Bull crap. Nothing  was revealed that was not within Trump's right to reveal. And, the left hates Israel, and anything they can do against them they'll do. 

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jtdavis posted:

Israel and the US had a special relationship until blabbermouth Trump told the Russians in a private (no US press, only Russian press)meeting what top secret info the Israel intelligence had passed to us. Now, they probably ain't gonna give us any more terrorism info.  

What did he pass from Israel to Russia? What did Israel say? Link to any of your assertions? Do you honestly want us to believe Israel would do anything to mess up the relationship Israel and the US have?

jtdavis posted:

Israel and the US had a special relationship until blabbermouth Trump told the Russians in a private (no US press, only Russian press)meeting what top secret info the Israel intelligence had passed to us. Now, they probably ain't gonna give us any more terrorism info.  

That's some funny chit right there, yall.

 JT, everybody!  Give him a hand!

Spoiler alert.

CNN was saying today there's nothing uncommon about what happened = dismissing [from a private meeting] the VP, AG, and releasing confidential information.  Something only the POTUS can do.  They said Obama did it too. 

They said!  But not for reasons of national security / isis / in Trumps case appears to be but for vanity reasons Obama released CI to Woodward o/r Berstein [I get those guys mixed up] for a f*r*e*a*k*I*n*g book.

Way to go CNN!

But when it comes to cuttin' to the chase releasing CI, nobody beats Hillary.  Just throw 30,000 tidbits in a hail Mary of stuff out there and see who catches it.  What difference does it make.

LOL

Trump tweets

Liberals sheet.

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Bestworking posted:

Think they are 3 to 3 1/2 BILLION dollars upset jt?

Given that U.S. military aid to Israel was $2.775 billion in 2010, $3 billion in 2011, $3.07 billion in 2012 (and $3.15 billion per year from 2013-2018) while Israel's defense budget is around $15 billion......

 

 

one of their men will be/is dead... how much money did you republicons spend to blame the deaths in benghazi on someone?  your hypocrisy is showing, yet again.

The intelligence concerned ISIS designed bombs disguised as laptops.  Which are hard to detect. That explains the reason such are now banned on some flights.  A president has full authority to declassify intelligence. Israel was the source and had no objections.  Now, how did this ensure the Kremlin will rule the world?  Keep a few Aeroflot planes from being blown up, perhaps.  

Who could object, except ISIS agents and Democrats? If, one may discern any difference. 

jtdavis posted:

What would your reaction be if Hillary had done it?

What would have been your reaction if Comey had read off all those charges against Trump instead of Hillary and didn't move for an incitement?  When Comey was being cross-examed by Gowdy, you would have been screaming for Trump's head were it him instead of Hillary.  And she still won the popular vote in the sanctuary states and pot holes in Tennessee.

It's going to come out that Trump was within his bounds at POTUS when he did what he did. 

 99% of liberals on this forum have not a clue as to how a grand jury works much less a Congressional investigation, so whatever the outcome, I don't expect the liberals on this forum to [1] to like it mainly because they will [2] have a clue as to what it means and [3] will argue with the man in the mirror because they can't admit their ignorance.

I think Trump sends out tweets to stir up liberals for the same reason a small boy stirs up a ant nest because it's fun to watch them run around.  Y'all spend all your time chasing Trump's tail and don't get a single else thing done.

Liberals.  Taking the bait.

 

100% of the conservatives on these forums have no clue what's actually going on in the world. as evident in the posts they make... a special prosecutor has been assigned to get the facts after trump and team have done their dead level best to obstruct the investigation. anyone who denies that is living inside a bubble of republicon lies. period.

news flash... the facts speak for themselves concerning hillary.. and she lost the election. trump has a scandal a day... isn't it time to drop hillary and worry about the current potus and all the scandals?

i mean, the repubicon party has dropped the 'hillary issue', now that they won the election. isn't it time the 'base' figured out they were duped and start acting like americans instead of the america hating republicons they've become?

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My point was, Crash, given the facts spoke for themselves, no justice was administered.  The election was not a trial.  Losing the election was not a criminal penalty.  Her post-election speech was not testimony although the last time she did testify it was under oath and she lied according to Comey though no indictment forthcoming while coincidentally his boss, the AG, is having a private cozy meeting with her impeached husband.  And somehow you feel this is all water under the bridge, you're being plain silly.

I say let the investigation go forward.  Let the chips fall where they may.  Heck, I want to know the details.  Pence would make a fine POTUS if it goes that way.  But if it is found, as it has been reported by none other than a CNN reporter, the substance of the meeting with the Russians was a legal act that only can be performed by the POTUS, I do not expect liberals to accept it and do what they do always.  The best judge of future behavior is past behavior.

Riot.

 

exactly what part of 'not a prosecutable offense' is so confusing for you? the fbi, justice department and several other reputable officials said the same thing. yet, you wanna see the facts. ha! 

what about the facts of trump knowing flynn was lying before he hired him? wanna know about that? or why the trump campaign had 18 conversations with russian officials that are just now being reported, before the election? wanna know about that? or if trump's campaign colluded with the russians to hack the DNC ?(basically watergate 2.0) wanna know about that? or is it just hillary's emails that concern you? or what about the 'above top secret' information our frat boy in chief was bragging to the russians about? is that perfectly ok because he's potus and can do it? your fascination with hillary's emails only goes to show your hypocrisy concerning trump.

exactly what part of 'not a prosecutable offense' is so confusing for you? the fbi, justice department and several other reputable officials said the same thing. yet, you wanna see the facts. ha!  - Crash

Let me stop you right there, Ironside.  On the local level, your District Attorney is your chief law enforcement officer.  He/she alone decides whether or not a case goes forward and with what charge.  Comey has no authority to tell his boss the AG that this case is not prosecutable.  That kind of comment is out of his pay grade but it most definitely is politically serving.  Kindly recall that the congressional hearing after hearing his evidence did not agree with him and felt like he laid out evidence that a junior prosecutor could make a slam dunk.  I would refer you to the vid I posted earlier of Gowdy grilling Comey.  Congress doesn't take kindly to being lied to, Crash.  It ain't over.

JT believes so strongly in Comeys evidence that he believes he influenced the election more than anything, anyone.  You libs are on the same track heading straight at each other.

I think this is where in your response you reply hahahahahaha

It's all you got.

Your friend,

Bud

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