Trump gets what Obama only dreamt of.

Trump praised

What with the opening of our embassy in Jerusalem Trump is praised for his leadership.  Leadership is not cowtowing and apologizing to everyone for what you think will appease them or telling people what you think they want to hear.   Leaders don't go around with their fingers in the air sampling public opinion and making your decisions based on that.  Leadership is setting the tone and agenda based on what is right or keeping your word.

Trump is a leader, Obama never was!

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )
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Actually, please don’t judge!  I don’t deny being a Christian and will proudly admit to it however to associate me with the Religious Right in a negative connotation is incorrect, not as much from agreeing with the right’s beliefs and position but in attempting to associate it with politics.

I fully support our government’s separation from Church and religion because our Constitution is our government’s document not the Bible and we are not a Theocracy but a Represenative Government that represents both religious and non-religious citizens.  I, also, am not a Republican but have voted for Democrats before and possibly. would again however as the party exist today I doubt that will be anytime soon, unless it’s Doug Jones .... possibly.  I am Independent in my affiliation however I do admit that of recent times I have leaned Republican almost 100% and fully support Donald Trump and his agenda.  

When I have not been happy with the choice of President, as I was with Obama, from year 1 of his administration on, I still supported him as President unlike many, today, with respect to Donald Trump, who will not support the position of President as long as Trump is in it but fully expect everyone else to support their candidate.  

One additional thought.  While I might, next to always, disagree with you politically, I would not attempt to demean you or attempt to blanket associate you with the majority of other far left, politically liberal, advocates under some blanket banner as “my Kind” in a negative way.  Everyone has their own reasons for believing as they do or advocating for their respective positions.  I surely admit not understanding your basis for blanket acceptance of Democratic philosophies and positions while blanket rejection and criticism of Republican positions for what seems like a position based solely upon what side of the isle something originates or is presented on.  IF that is incorrect then I apologize for that characterization.  Please though, with regards to myself, try and give me a measure of impartiality without prior judgment.

When the POTUS makes a religious move and you show your support, you open that door. I feel more sure that the ONLY REASON this was done is to gain favor from the Religious Right in the Republican party and you showed support for that decision. The blood of 37 people resides on Trump's administration and the people who support that decision.

No matter how one would dance around this there's plenty of Dems in
favor of it as well as some MSM reporters. Are they also guilty..............

 

Muslims are the only one attacking the Jews with guns, but the Jews also
have guns and defend themselves and the extreme left hateful blame
the Republicans.... There you go.... Do Si Do.. let the little girl dance..
 
Obozo even drew a red line where he was going to locate the embassy..
UN HUH.......
giftedamateur posted:
gbrk posted:

I disagree.  Whatever the motive is the reason he did it is he promised he would.  I may be wrong but didn't Obama promise the exact same thing only backed out?

Well you see, no one expects Obama to keep his word. 

Ovomit only keeps his word to Soros,,, if he wants his allowance...

gbrk posted:

I disagree.  Whatever the motive is the reason he did it is he promised he would.  I may be wrong but didn't Obama promise the exact same thing only backed out?

Obama's advisors explained what would happen if the embassy was moved .. Obama as well as Bush *W and Clinton all declined to move the embassy because of the turmoil it would cause in the region. Trump's 'advisors' don't have a clue what to do about foreign policy matters and this was unnecessary.

Br’er Rabbit posted:
gbrk posted:

I disagree.  Whatever the motive is the reason he did it is he promised he would.  I may be wrong but didn't Obama promise the exact same thing only backed out?

Obama's advisors explained what would happen if the embassy was moved .. Obama as well as Bush *W and Clinton all declined to move the embassy because of the turmoil it would cause in the region. Trump's 'advisors' don't have a clue what to do about foreign policy matters and this was unnecessary.

Again that's leadership in action!  Obama wasn't willing to cross the political winds when he put his finger in the air to see what direction the breeze was blowing at the time..  He also didn't want to offend, or confront, the Muslim backlash.  Truthfully, you nor I, really will most likely know for sure why decisions were or were not made but I fully believe Trump is a naturally born and developed leader and Obama was never either.   Obama could have done so much to improve race relations in the nation as well as bring us out of the funk that the Iraq war put the country into.  Obama though was not competent nor able to do any of that.  He was a victim of his own education and personal opinions as to all the ills of the world being the United States fault and the blame of white protestant Americans.  At least that is what I believe, subject always to be mistaken but one thing I'm fairly confident about is that Obama was never qualified to be President.  I also am fairly confident that he abhorred the Constitution as written and would have loved to have become a dictator in his own right ruling apart and over congressional opposition(s).  

Obama, on his own, decided to use Executive Orders as a quasi dictator.  As a result though all decisions and orders that were enacted by Executive Orders could be simply undone by the same type order except this time by President Trump.  

Trump has issued more 'Executive Orders", in his first year, than any POTUS in 50+ years. That's with a Republican House and Senate. Another of your Republican talking points falls by the side. Republicans/Trump control the Federal Government and have still issued more Executive Orders than any Administration, in its first year, than any Administration in 50+ years and the Democrats/Obama acted as dictators. Nope, no bias from you there. 

Foreign Policy advisors are there because they understand the region. Trump doesn't understand much past how to operate twitter.  The US improved its foreign relations under Obama. I think you've noticed how the world view has changed, in the past year.

Br’er Rabbit posted:

Trump has issued more 'Executive Orders", in his first year, than any POTUS in 50+ years. Another of your Republican talking points falls by the side. Foreign Policy advisors are there because they understand the region. Trump doesn't understand much past how to operate twitter.  The US improved its foreign relations under Obama.I think you've noticed how the world view has changed, in the past year.

Oh I totally agree with you on that part.  The US, and the Office of the President, are again respected and admired rather than laughed at and taken for granted.  Quite a change!  Whereas, and yes we have to wait to see how it pans out, North and South Korea stand a chance to declare the Korean war actually OVER and North Korea stands a chance (possibly a small one) of actually giving up Nuclear Weapons and their leader (Kim Jung Un) is going to set down with Trump and discuss peace and change, something unthinkable for any POTUS before.  Yes there has been some friction with Trump pulling out of the Iran deal but it was never a treaty or never even something Congress had anything to do with.  It was some wet dream of Obama's with many side agreements such as the US actually coming to the defense of Iran if Israel attacked Iran and other crazy stuff like that.  Also, if you get to the heart of it most of those European leaders or politicians that are decrying the US pulling out of the Iran deal have an economic vested interest in Iran so everything isn't necessarily as you might think it is.

I agree a lot has changed in the world has changed and for the better or at least with respect to the United States (America) for the better.  I know that you disagree but I feel fairly confident that the future and history will prove me correct or more correct than you are believing.

gbrk posted:
Br’er Rabbit posted:

Trump has issued more 'Executive Orders", in his first year, than any POTUS in 50+ years. Another of your Republican talking points falls by the side. Foreign Policy advisors are there because they understand the region. Trump doesn't understand much past how to operate twitter.  The US improved its foreign relations under Obama.I think you've noticed how the world view has changed, in the past year.

Oh I totally agree with you on that part.  The US, and the Office of the President, are again respected and admired rather than laughed at and taken for granted.  Quite a change!  Whereas, and yes we have to wait to see how it pans out, North and South Korea stand a chance to declare the Korean war actually OVER and North Korea stands a chance (possibly a small one) of actually giving up Nuclear Weapons and their leader (Kim Jung Un) is going to set down with Trump and discuss peace and change, something unthinkable for any POTUS before.  Yes there has been some friction with Trump pulling out of the Iran deal but it was never a treaty or never even something Congress had anything to do with.  It was some wet dream of Obama's with many side agreements such as the US actually coming to the defense of Iran if Israel attacked Iran and other crazy stuff like that.  Also, if you get to the heart of it most of those European leaders or politicians that are decrying the US pulling out of the Iran deal have an economic vested interest in Iran so everything isn't necessarily as you might think it is.

I agree a lot has changed in the world has changed and for the better or at least with respect to the United States (America) for the better.  I know that you disagree but I feel fairly confident that the future and history will prove me correct or more correct than you are believing.

I guess they're celebrating for joy in Gaza, today. I'm pretty sure those 'death to America' chants , in Iran, are just a misunderstanding. I'm sure our allies are quite happy about the US posing to impose sanctions on them for honoring their word. Yep, the US is sure changing in the world's eyes and according to you, it's for the better. What a wonderful world you must live in, compared to reality.

Br’er Rabbit posted:
gbrk posted:
Br’er Rabbit posted:

Trump has issued more 'Executive Orders", in his first year, than any POTUS in 50+ years. Another of your Republican talking points falls by the side. Foreign Policy advisors are there because they understand the region. Trump doesn't understand much past how to operate twitter.  The US improved its foreign relations under Obama.I think you've noticed how the world view has changed, in the past year.

Oh I totally agree with you on that part.  The US, and the Office of the President, are again respected and admired rather than laughed at and taken for granted.  Quite a change!  Whereas, and yes we have to wait to see how it pans out, North and South Korea stand a chance to declare the Korean war actually OVER and North Korea stands a chance (possibly a small one) of actually giving up Nuclear Weapons and their leader (Kim Jung Un) is going to set down with Trump and discuss peace and change, something unthinkable for any POTUS before.  Yes there has been some friction with Trump pulling out of the Iran deal but it was never a treaty or never even something Congress had anything to do with.  It was some wet dream of Obama's with many side agreements such as the US actually coming to the defense of Iran if Israel attacked Iran and other crazy stuff like that.  Also, if you get to the heart of it most of those European leaders or politicians that are decrying the US pulling out of the Iran deal have an economic vested interest in Iran so everything isn't necessarily as you might think it is.

I agree a lot has changed in the world has changed and for the better or at least with respect to the United States (America) for the better.  I know that you disagree but I feel fairly confident that the future and history will prove me correct or more correct than you are believing.

I guess they're celebrating for joy in Gaza, today. I'm pretty sure those 'death to America' chants , in Iran, are just a misunderstanding. I'm sure our allies are quite happy about the US posing to impose sanctions on them for honoring their word. Yep, the US is sure changing in the world's eyes and according to you, it's for the better. What a wonderful world you must live in, compared to reality.

If you think any of those in Gaza or Iran will decide to like America regardless of what we do you are delusional.  They hate the west and want it destroyed.

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