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The United Auto Workers has served 20 subpoenaes for an April 21 National Labor Relations Board hearing on its appeal of February’s Chattanooga Volkswagen plant vote, including to Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam and U.S. Sen. Bob Corker, documents showhttp://www.timesfreepress.com/...-chatt/?breakingnews

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They influenced the election in unethical ways.  They told lie after lie about events that would happen if the UAW was voted in.  They will claim some type of immunity to keep from attending the hearing.  The VW officials even said undue influence was placed on the workers.  Who brought Grover Norquist in on it?  Why him?  Who financed the anti union people?  A lot of questions need to be answered.

          Dire you are consistently barking at anything that is a threat to a selfish agenda that everybody should suffer the same shellacking you received from your corporate bosses in Atlanta when they turned you out to pasture.

         These elected politicians were perjuring themselves to influence a lawful exercise of the freedom to vote by citizens.  These crooks will have their crimes against humanity made transparent.

        There is still time for some noble deed to be done by you.

Yeah, here's may answer jt.  The Union is gonna continue to whine and complain if they don't get their way.  The argument in Alabama stems from the fact that they can't get in at the MB plant, and despite the fact that they are allowed to hand out their material in lunchrooms and everywhere else before work, they are not happy.  They chief complaint was that someone was selling girl scout cookies but they couldn't talk about the union....haha....seriously.

These guys are moronic.  Now they are having a trial in TN to try and convict the politicians, who are way to slick to actually have put anything in wriiting that will convict them.  They continue to show just how desperate they are and how far they will go to get their way despite the fact that the majority does ot want them in the plants.  Peopl have gotten wise to their tactics and the fact that they take their money with little to no representation.

Perhaps the UAW should try to get the girl scout's cookie deal, that would serve them right for screwing over the poor little ole Union members....haha

What a joke.

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http://www.al.com/business/ind...ni.html#incart_river

http://www.al.com/business/ind...if.html#incart_river

 

A key issue in Monday's testimony was the legal status of Team Centers, which are employee gathering spots scattered across the plant and used for meetings as well as breaks. Mercedes considers those to be work areas.

Lawyers for the NLRB and UAW attempted to show them as something different, however. Under questioning from them, employees described Team Centers as having refrigerators and microwaves to keep and warm lunches, as well as tables and bulletin boards posted with information about the company and its products.

But under cross-examination from lawyers representing Mercedes, employees acknowledged that Team Centers also contain computers, phones and filing cabinets, and they are close to the assembly line.

Employees also acknowledged that they know of no one who has been disciplined, demoted or fired for supporting the union.

The company is committed to being neutral on the union topic, Matthew Everitt, general counsel for Mercedes' Alabama operations, said in a statement after the hearing.

"In fact, we've even worked with our team members to adjust policies at the plant to ensure we stick to neutrality," he said.

Last year, at the request of some employees, the company changed a long-standing policy on distributing non-work related materials, Everitt said.

 

At Mercedes, the UAW is receiving assistance from the German labor union IG Metall, which also helped with the UAW campaign at the Volkswagen plant in Tennessee.

 

Like I said, you can jump over barrells to try and please these folks, but they will not be happy unless they get their way.  The article points out the UAW is being assisted by the same union in Germany......but I thought they were ONLY interested in the VW plant??????

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http://www.examiner.com/articl...ed-u-s-auto-industry

 

Read here how the Unions destroyed the US auto industry, and tell me they were not corrupt....

 

 

"In the 1980s and 1990s the automobile industry found itself struggling to compete in the global economy as Chrysler, Ford and GM lagged behind foreign competitors to manufacture  higher fuel efficiency vehicles and investing in newer technologies to respond to shifting market demands.  While Japanese and German autos were being built to get maximum fuel efficiency, developing and advancing “smart car” technologies, the Big 3 were building SUV’s and pickup trucks that used much more fuel than the foreign competitors. Even though the demand for such large vehicles was there during that time, the Big 3 could still get away with investing more into those types of vehicles and continue charging inflated prices at their dealerships. As long as there were buyers willing to pay more for an American-built vehicle and gasoline was cheap, it was not an issue. After all, it is a free market, and at that time, the formula was still working. However, trouble was brewing on the horizon, and no one seemed to be planning on how best to meet the coming challenges in Lansing or Detroit."

 

"One major hurdle facing the Big 3 is the simple fact that they pay nearly 3 times as much in wages to their employees than the foreign automakers. Because all Big 3 autoworkers are members of the union rackets, the Big 3 had no choice but to continue paying off the collectors from the unions “for protection” from strikes and shutdowns. In addition to the $80 per hour wage of an average union auto employee, the unions also demanded that the Big 3 provide extremely generous benefits, such as full medical coverage and a requirement that the Big 3 must pay all laid-off union members up to 80% of their full employment wages while idle. Of course, once the huge pensions and benefits enjoyed by union members can be added to this mix, and you have a recipe for disaster. These unsustainable costs to the auto makers, when  added to the overbearing benefits to the unions, have essentially priced Detroit’s vehicles out of the market. The high costs of paying the artificial wages and benefits “protection” demanded by the unions have almost destroyed the City of Detroit and, to a larger extent, the economy and image of Michigan.  "

 

"When the non-union wages for autoworkers are $30 per hour as opposed to union-made vehicles at $80 per wage hour, it does not take a rocket scientist to see how negative the impact was going to be on Detroit.  By the 1990s, consumers found they no longer had to accept the skyrocketing costs of American-built cars. They could proudly buy foreign autos while no longer being shamed by the unions crying foul or making accusations of being “un-American.” Over time, this led to the fall of Detroit’s auto-makers, which, in turn, started to have negative domino effect on the thousands of suppliers who depended on a healthy automobile industry and all other businesses that provide service to this huge sector. "

"

It is ironic and sad that the unions continue pressuring the Big 3 with unsustainable demands that will all but destroy the shell of the once-great U.S. automobile industry. Like the parasite that eventually kills its host, in turn, killing the parasite, so too the unions kill the remnants of their livelihood, which will destroy the unions  eventually lead to the end of the unions themselves.
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teyates, you may know how to fix a stumped toe, but you don't know anything about unions.  You don't know anything about the UAW.  You don't know anything about pay rates.  The $80 per hour is pure fiction.  When some people want to change $28 per hour into $80, you fall for it hook, line and sinker.  The ones who sank Detroit is management who did not fund what they gave in negotiations.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

teyates, you may know how to fix a stumped toe, but you don't know anything about unions.  You don't know anything about the UAW.  You don't know anything about pay rates.  The $80 per hour is pure fiction.  When some people want to change $28 per hour into $80, you fall for it hook, line and sinker.  The ones who sank Detroit is management who did not fund what they gave in negotiations.

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JT, One can rant about management not funding the pensions, but if the funds aren't there, there's nothing to reserve.  GM management made bone headed decisions about production.  Both management and unions colluded to deliver a decidedly inferior product in the late 1970s, resulting in the onslaught to foreign cars to the US, especially from Japan, which delivered a superior product.  Union leaders knew the truth and refused to negotiated a more realistic contract.  It was a true confederation of dunces. 

From Factchecker:

Labor Costs Aren’t the Same as Wages Earned

The result is the per-hour labor cost to the automakers, which is very different from "pay" or "wages" or even "wages and benefits" earned by their workers. As David Leonhardt pointed out in the New York Times (countering, in a sense, the earlier piece by Sorkin), the average GM, Ford and Chrysler worker receives compensation – wages, bonuses, overtime and paid time off – of about $40 an hour. Add in benefits such as health insurance and pensions and you get to about $55. Another $15 or so in benefits to retirees (known as "legacy costs") brings the number to roughly $70.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

The people who make over $32,000 per year pay 97% of income taxes.  Is this a problem?

The people who make over $340,000 pay 36%,  are you saying that is too low?

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Combine the results of the chart and the graph. One can conclude that no matter the level of taxation of the different levels of income, the percentage of GDP measured against taxes collected remains near constant.  Higher math for some progressives who received a liberal education, I realize.

Well, looks like the UAW has decided to cut their losses and leave TN to someone else.  They have dropped their suit against the "corruption" for the previous election at the VW plant.  They say the chances of them gaining any ground in the second election would be worse. They want Congress to hear their complaints against the Gov and other elected official in TN who campaigned against the UAW / VW venture.  Looks more and more like what was alluded to earlier.  The board members of the VW plant who are also Union memebers were pushing for this, not necessariliy the whole VW plant. At least TN remains secure now as a right to work state.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

.. all while the regressives rejoice over the loss of jobs.

Did you get that off the "talking points " bulletin down at the union hall?  because, as I see it, no jobs were lost.  And yes, there were multiple members on the board who are also german union members.  Several stroies have pointed out that their entire reason for backing this was to see fewer jobs leave Germany.  Sorry, that is too hard for you to understand, but those people are really not "your friends", and were not doing anything to "help" you...haha

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

the vw plant won't open.. there will be no jobs.

do you read these threads, or just start asking questions?

I skimmed the thread and saw no mention of the plant closing. 

 

A quick google search found no evidence of the plant closing.

 

All that was mentioned was that the VW Labor Board(aka Union members that sit on the board) would try to block further expansion in the South if the plants are not unionized. That sounds to me like thuggery.

The corruption in the UAW union was the downfall of the Ford plant shutting down in Muscle Shoals. I've had several former union workers that worked there to tell me that. I've also heard that several of the staunch union workers from the Frod plant were blacklisted from being hired at Saginaw back in the day. Unions are only as good as the head people in them. If the supervising people are thugs, so are the unions. The tactics that the UAW are using in Chattanooga will only turn folks off. If you don't think the UAW is crooked, then you're turning a blind eye on the demise of Detroit.

There is no need to argue with jealous non-union scabs crash. I've served as project manager on too many multi-million construction projects that were done with skilled union labor. There is no way they could have been accomplished with low-paid, un-skilled minds such as are arguing here in this post.

I will admit though that there are chicken-coop sweat-shop jobs that can be wrestled to completion by scabs but at a huge cost to the economic welfare of a community. All these scabs arguing on here have never been skilled union workers and are just jealous liars or brain dead to argue against a fair living wage for employees or they are just simply just mean as the devil. dire is the poster child for corporate karl roves who got a "jelly-of-the-month -club" subscription for his loyalty to Atlanta and squeals like a lil pig at some good ole hard worker who gets more than four bucks an hour.

You know QD, it is rionic that you and the Union like to use the word "scab" to refer to those who do not support your iron fisted efforts. I never said I did not think the Unions were at one time useful, but they have since became a "sore" on society.  In order for a sore to heal, it typically requires a "scab" to form.  The scab, as you refer to it, is the typical healing process for a long festering wound.  It protects the individual and keep the "festering sore" from bleeding the patient dry and when rough time come it helps to protect the wound from undue pain.

Yes, I guess "scab" would be an appropiate word after all, thanks for claifying that for us.....

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