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Originally Posted by teyates:

You know QD, it is rionic that you and the Union like to use the word "scab" to refer to those who do not support your iron fisted efforts. I never said I did not think the Unions were at one time useful, but they have since became a "sore" on society.  In order for a sore to heal, it typically requires a "scab" to form.  The scab, as you refer to it, is the typical healing process for a long festering wound.  It protects the individual and keep the "festering sore" from bleeding the patient dry and when rough time come it helps to protect the wound from undue pain.

Yes, I guess "scab" would be an appropiate word after all, thanks for claifying that for us.....


LOL, hit the nail square on the head with that one.  The union mindset that "we are superior" was true at one time.  I've seen amazing work performed by highly skilled craftsmen from construction projects performed 50-60 years ago.  The level of attention to detail was second to none during that era.  I don't see that level of skill/perfection very often these days.

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Teyates, you need to stick to something that you have some knowledge of.  

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If, that were the measure to post to this forum, one would expect QD, Crash and yourself to seldom, if ever post. 

 

Sorry that She Who Must Be Obeyed won't let you view the one who can't be drawn with straight lines. 

Originally Posted by direstraits:

If, that were the measure to post to this forum, one would expect QD, Crash and yourself to seldom, if ever post. 

 

Sorry that She Who Must Be Obeyed won't let you view the one who can't be drawn with straight lines. 

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and yet, we have to endure you, proving you're an  idiot, daily.

Teyates, you need to stick to something that you have some knowledge of.  

jt,

I have forgotten more than you will ever know.

 

The key words are. "forgotten more".  

Since financial melt down, corporate profits are up 50%. median wages are down 6%.  Unions are needed more with each passing year.  Republicans are fighting a minimum wage increase tooth and nail.  Oracle CEO made $78,440,657 last year and that is just fine with the right wing.  It would take a min. wage earner 5.201 years to earn that much.  A good CEO is a very valuable thing to have.  Why does an american CEO earn so much more than one from a foreign country?  Unions made the middle class, as unions shrink, so does the middle class.  I don't know when all workers will realize that.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Teyates, you need to stick to something that you have some knowledge of.  

jt,

I have forgotten more than you will ever know.

 

The key words are. "forgotten more".  

Since financial melt down, corporate profits are up 50%. median wages are down 6%.  Unions are needed more with each passing year.  Republicans are fighting a minimum wage increase tooth and nail.  Oracle CEO made $78,440,657 last year and that is just fine with the right wing.  It would take a min. wage earner 5.201 years to earn that much.  A good CEO is a very valuable thing to have.  Why does an american CEO earn so much more than one from a foreign country?  Unions made the middle class, as unions shrink, so does the middle class.  I don't know when all workers will realize that.

Larry Ellison founded Oracle and is the CEO. It has a market cap of nearly $175 BILLION and employs 120k people.

 

Larry Ellison should be praised not vilified. He created a company that made lots of people rich and gave hundreds of thousands of people a career.

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Teyates, you need to stick to something that you have some knowledge of.  

jt,

I have forgotten more than you will ever know.

 

The key words are. "forgotten more".  

Since financial melt down, corporate profits are up 50%. median wages are down 6%.  Unions are needed more with each passing year.  Republicans are fighting a minimum wage increase tooth and nail.  Oracle CEO made $78,440,657 last year and that is just fine with the right wing.  It would take a min. wage earner 5.201 years to earn that much.  A good CEO is a very valuable thing to have.  Why does an american CEO earn so much more than one from a foreign country?  Unions made the middle class, as unions shrink, so does the middle class.  I don't know when all workers will realize that.

Do you also have a problem that American movie stars make more than foreign movie stars? How about American TV actors making more than foreign TV actors?

 

Is that also a problem for you?

 

Why do Dems have such a problem with people getting rich off of their business, investing, or intellectual talents?

Hey JT, does this bother you? Below is a list of the top paid french actors. Robert Downey JR was the highest paid American actor making $75MILLION!!! OMG! Can you please explain why an AMERICAN actor gets paid so much more than a foreign actor?? It's not fair!!!! LOL

 

1. Dany Boon: 3,6 millions €
2. Gérard Depardieu: 2,3 millions €
3. Catherine Frot: 2,235 millions €
4. Gad Elmaleh: 2,1 millions €
5. Alain Chabat: 2 millions €
6. Patrick Bruel: 1,8 millions €
7. Marion Cotillard: 1,7 millions €
8. José Garcia: 1,6 millions €
9. Jamel Debbouze: 1,5 millions €
10. Mathilde Seigner: 1,475 millions €

 

 

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

"Why do Dems have such a problem with people getting rich off of their business, investing, or intellectual talents?" [1]

[1] Kenny Powers

 

Because they expect their workers to supply labor at a cheap rate.

No brainer. 

Do you have a problem with Matt Damon making $20m for a movie while the camera grip gets paid peanuts?

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

"Why do Dems have such a problem with people getting rich off of their business, investing, or intellectual talents?" [1]

[1] Kenny Powers

 

Because they expect their workers to supply labor at a cheap rate.

No brainer. 

Also, please quantify what a "cheap" rate is. 

 

You may think your skills are worth $25 an hour in the market place but if there are 100 equllally qualified people willing to do the job for less then guess what? You're not worth $25 an hour.

 

It doesn't matter if we are talking about a unit of labor or a used Honda Accord, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The market determines the true value of any good or service.

Kenny Powers, do you go to movies?  I don't.  I don't care to spend a days pay to watch an hour of fiction.  Hollywood pays the stars that much because of the draw they have at the box office.  The people who go to movies pays it.  

 

You asked what a cheap rate is, it's minimum wage.  The least lawful wage allowed.

When there was a demand for workers the unions thrived but, now with global competition unions are killing jobs.  You have to blind not to see the difference in the amount of foreign products we use now than were used just thirty to fifty years ago and the number of jobs that have gone offs****.

 

I'm not blind, I do look for the made is USA label.  I can't always find it, but if I do, I'll buy that one.

 

The anti union forces talk global competition, what they are really saying is lower your standard of living so that the top 1% can have the multimillion dollar incomes.  Listen to Fox and the Koch brothers, they have your best interests at heart. (BS)

Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

"Why do Dems have such a problem with people getting rich off of their business, investing, or intellectual talents?" [1]

[1] Kenny Powers

 

Because they expect their workers to supply labor at a cheap rate.

No brainer. 

Do you have a problem with Matt Damon making $20m for a movie while the camera grip gets paid peanuts?

in both cases collective bargaining is involved for the actor and camera grip. They are both union. You know that. You apparently don't know how agents perform for professionals.

Originally Posted by uandurine:

When there was a demand for workers the unions thrived but, now with global competition unions are killing jobs.  You have to blind not to see the difference in the amount of foreign products we use now than were used just thirty to fifty years ago and the number of jobs that have gone offs****.

you haven't a clue . just go and work for min wage somewhere and be happy. lol

Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

"Why do Dems have such a problem with people getting rich off of their business, investing, or intellectual talents?" [1]

[1] Kenny Powers

 

Because they expect their workers to supply labor at a cheap rate.

No brainer. 

Also, please quantify what a "cheap" rate is. 

 

You may think your skills are worth $25 an hour in the market place but if there are 100 equllally qualified people willing to do the job for less then guess what? You're not worth $25 an hour.

 

It doesn't matter if we are talking about a unit of labor or a used Honda Accord, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The market determines the true value of any good or service.

bad analogy . quit trying to be a philosopher. get back to work for min. wage and hush. You shouldn't be on here wasting your employer's money. At the rate you actually work you are being paid the same rate as matt damon, whoever that il LOL.

Originally Posted by Quaildog:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

"Why do Dems have such a problem with people getting rich off of their business, investing, or intellectual talents?" [1]

[1] Kenny Powers

 

Because they expect their workers to supply labor at a cheap rate.

No brainer. 

Also, please quantify what a "cheap" rate is. 

 

You may think your skills are worth $25 an hour in the market place but if there are 100 equllally qualified people willing to do the job for less then guess what? You're not worth $25 an hour.

 

It doesn't matter if we are talking about a unit of labor or a used Honda Accord, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The market determines the true value of any good or service.

bad analogy . quit trying to be a philosopher. get back to work for min. wage and hush. You shouldn't be on here wasting your employer's money. At the rate you actually work you are being paid the same rate as matt damon, whoever that il LOL.

So basic economics means nothing to you? LOL

 

 

Originally Posted by Quaildog:
Originally Posted by uandurine:

When there was a demand for workers the unions thrived but, now with global competition unions are killing jobs.  You have to blind not to see the difference in the amount of foreign products we use now than were used just thirty to fifty years ago and the number of jobs that have gone offs****.

you haven't a clue . just go and work for min wage somewhere and be happy. lol

 

Actually I have worked for less than minimum wage before I had the initiative, skills and education to do better.  Some people just want success given to them.

 

can you provide proof of your statement.. or is that just more 'regressive facts'? real life shows.. with an increase in minimum wage comes an increase in demand.. and thus, increase in employment. because, in economics 101, an increase in demand.. is what really drives the economy.. contrary to what the forum's 'regressive accountant' may preach.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

can you provide proof of your statement.. or is that just more 'regressive facts'? real life shows.. with an increase in minimum wage comes an increase in demand.. and thus, increase in employment. because, in economics 101, an increase in demand.. is what really drives the economy.. contrary to what the forum's 'regressive accountant' may preach.

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Crach,

 

Proof of what -- that we have high under and unemployment or that we are in a stagflation economy?  Only, if you haven't read the business news for the last five years, would you not recognize that.  Or, that increasing minimum wage fro $7.25 to $10.10 isn't a 39 percent increase/  Surely, even you can do basic math. 

 

Any economic studies I've read show that a significant increase in labor costs results in less employment and an increase in prices -- basic stagflation,  Perhaps, you could prove actual case histories to the opposite.

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

can you provide proof of your statement.. or is that just more 'regressive facts'? real life shows.. with an increase in minimum wage comes an increase in demand.. and thus, increase in employment. because, in economics 101, an increase in demand.. is what really drives the economy.. contrary to what the forum's 'regressive accountant' may preach.

So by your rationale we could raise minimum wage to $30 an hour and the economy would boom. LOL

The minimum wage debate has zero economic merit because so few people make it. It is much more of a political argument. Most people on this board cannot separate economics from politics.

 

Creating artificial wage or price floors does not grow the economy. It hampers growth.

 

Plus, an often overlooked aspect of this "debate" is what do you do about employees that have already been given raises due to hard work or being promoted? Let's say you promoted someone or gave them a raise to $11 an hour. Now minimum wage goes up to $10.10. The employee making $11 is not going to like that someone who doesn't work as hard as they do making basically the same. So now you either have to give the $11 an hour employee a raise or you are left with a disgruntled(rightfully so) employee. 

Originally Posted by direstraits:

As usual, Crash quickly crawdad's away from my questioning of his statements, using a throwaway line "business magazines." No, you dolt, business magazines, business sections of several newspapers, cable business stations including CNBC and Fox Business, plus the internet sites. 

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so, get this.. dire knows everything about everything.. because he reads the 'business news'.. and yet.. i'm the 'dolt'. i asked for proof of your claim.. now, i'm supposed to prove what you said?   imagine that. you make a claim.. i ask for proof.. your reply..' i read it in the 'business news''..  you poor poor pitiful man. rt. wingnut politics.. turns out you can just make it up.. why not, they do.

Originally Posted by direstraits:

As usual, Crash quickly crawdad's away from my questioning of his statements, using a throwaway line "business magazines." No, you dolt, business magazines, business sections of several newspapers, cable business stations including CNBC and Fox Business, plus the internet sites. 

I figured as much you get you crap from magazines and TV ; now that is laughable. hahaha

Ever read Batman? lol 

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

so, by your rational , we could reduce min. wage to $2/ hour and economy would be booming? the lengths the regressives will go , to 'put down' a min. wage increase is ridiculous.

No, becaause only 4.5% of hourly wage earners make minimum wage so it is a non issue.

 

you are the one that said creating artificially high wage floors would stimulate the economy. 

 

Where any of your 4 college degrees from the school of business or are you just the best troll on here?

 

 

Originally Posted by direstraits:

Pardon old Squirrelly Dawg, He only believes what he pulls out of his rear end 

dire you are the one who claims to have earned your education by reading magazines. Not me. lol

My guess is; you believe in TV and accuracy of magazine articles. Probably the NY Times also. Huh? Am I hittin' the nail on it's head? There is no telling what you told other passengers on your bus ride over here from Atlanta. lol. Ole Squirrelly Dawg has had you treed in a dead snag from day one.

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