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"Don't expect the polar vortex to pummel the eastern United States this winter, government scientists said today (Oct. 16).

 

Overall, forecasters expect mild winter conditions across much of the United States, scientists with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said as they issued their annual winter weather outlook.

 

While there's always a chance that the polar jet stream will again funnel frigid Arctic air south toward the United States, nothing in the new forecast indicates a rerun of the persistent patterns responsible for the "polar vortex." "We do not expect to see a repeat of last winter," said Mike Halpert, acting director of NOAA's Climate Prediction Center."

http://www.livescience.com/483...r-forecast-2015.html

 

All 50 states has temperatures below freezing this week.  Earlier, I saw that a Farmer's Old Almanac predicted a cold winter

 

Obama's riding the climate change hobby horse, now.  Earlier, we were told global warming, man-caused, was coming with dire results.  Then, it was climate change,  Think I've decoded the message.

After re-evaluating all the global warming data, its now -- we have no idea what will happen. 

 

TRUTH -- THE NEW HATE SPEECH!

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Originally Posted by direstraits:

"Don't expect the polar vortex to pummel the eastern United States this winter, government scientists said today (Oct. 16).

 

Overall, forecasters expect mild winter conditions across much of the United States, scientists with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said as they issued their annual winter weather outlook.

 

While there's always a chance that the polar jet stream will again funnel frigid Arctic air south toward the United States, nothing in the new forecast indicates a rerun of the persistent patterns responsible for the "polar vortex." "We do not expect to see a repeat of last winter," said Mike Halpert, acting director of NOAA's Climate Prediction Center."

http://www.livescience.com/483...r-forecast-2015.html

 

All 50 states has temperatures below freezing this week.  Earlier, I saw that a Farmer's Old Almanac predicted a cold winter

 

Obama's riding the climate change hobby horse, now.  Earlier, we were told global warming, man-caused, was coming with dire results.  Then, it was climate change,  Think I've decoded the message.

After re-evaluating all the global warming data, its now -- we have no idea what will happen. 

 

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Who are they saving it for?

Climate change acceptors state that deniers have no idea of the science,  From those accepting climate change in this forum, its obvious they have no idea of the scientific principle.  First, stating anything that has not happened is settled science is in contradiction with the principle. Secondly, quoting a statistic that 97 percent of scientists agree is false.  As I've shown, the statistical sample was for  handful of climatologists at a seminar that included many more scientists.  Such as sample would not meet the legal definition as applied to a global sample. 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Why don't you make a chart? It's your claim. BTW, what are you lefties saving it for?

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I have, if I posted it, you wouldn't believe the result. Why don't you make one and you can see the result of your own research. Are you afraid of seeing it.

This goes for all of you.


The fact that you believe the last 30 years of data proves "climate change" only proves you don't know what you are talking about.  That is an infinitesimally small sample compared to how long the earth has been around.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Why don't you make a chart? It's your claim. BTW, what are you lefties saving it for?

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I have, if I posted it, you wouldn't believe the result. Why don't you make one and you can see the result of your own research. Are you afraid of seeing it.

This goes for all of you.

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Then it should be easy for you to repost it. Oh, and something legitimate, not something 'someone told you' or 'you heard'. I don't have to post anything, I'm not the ones making the claims.

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Every one of you are afraid to look at NOAH web site and look up the heating and cooling degree days and make a chart. If you do, you will find a warming trend and you will be unable to believe your own eyes.You are so afraid of being shown wrong that you refuse to attempt something that would prove you wrong.

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NOAH? No one is afraid of anything you'd post, if you ever could/did post a reliable link or source. You made the claim, it's on you to post sources. You should know by now that your way of posting, 'someone told me, emailed me, or I heard' doesn't cut it. People know better.

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Every one of you are afraid to look at NOAH web site and look up the heating and cooling degree days and make a chart. If you do, you will find a warming trend and you will be unable to believe your own eyes.You are so afraid of being shown wrong that you refuse to attempt something that would prove you wrong.


Are you actually claiming the earth has not had any other warming trends throughout its life?

why don't the republicans educate themselves as to what 'climate change' consists of...  why all the conflicting reports by companies with a vested interest? why do such a large number of people who study our climate agree? why did the pentagon issue a statement about military bases and climate change? why not become knowledgeable of the topic?

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

why don't the republicans educate themselves as to what 'climate change' consists of...  why all the conflicting reports by companies with a vested interest? why do such a large number of people who study our climate agree? why did the pentagon issue a statement about military bases and climate change? why not become knowledgeable of the topic?


Then why are their dire predictions continually shown to be false?  Remember, the chicken littles have been making these claims for many decades now.  

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

as i said, why not learn the facts instead of insisting they don't exist?


No one is saying the climate is not changing.  This is just a fact of life and it will continue to change until the end of time.  Again, the dire predictions the alarmist have been making and the computer models they are so proud of are continually shown to be wrong time and time again.  How many times can you be fooled?

Deny, deny, deny, no, no, no.  Those words and slurs are all y'all know.

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You should know by now that your way of posting, 'someone told me, emailed me, or I heard' doesn't cut it. People know better.

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Best, that proves my point, you have no facts other than those you make up, so you resort to lies and slurs. That is all you are capable of.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Deny, deny, deny, no, no, no.  Those words and slurs are all y'all know.

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You should know by now that your way of posting, 'someone told me, emailed me, or I heard' doesn't cut it. People know better.

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Best, that proves my point, you have no facts other than those you make up, so you resort to lies and slurs. That is all you are capable of.

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Looks to me like you're the liar. What facts have I made up, and where did I post those made up facts? What lies and slurs? You're not even capable of posting a freaking link to any of your claims. You just post your silly childish mess and claim insult and name calling when you're called on it.

Last edited by Bestworking
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Deny, deny, deny, no, no, no.  Those words and slurs are all y'all know.

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You should know by now that your way of posting, 'someone told me, emailed me, or I heard' doesn't cut it. People know better.

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Best, that proves my point, you have no facts other than those you make up, so you resort to lies and slurs. That is all you are capable of.


Jim, do you really believe the last thirty years of data is absolute conclusive evidence that we are in danger, fully knowing the computer models that predicted horrible scenarios have already been shown to be grossly wrong?  BS followed by more BS is just a whole lot of BS.

Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

do you think those predictions fall short because of the measures we've already taken? why not educate yourself as to the facts?


What measures?  Increased use of fossil fuels?  I'm not sure you can be educated.


Let's use more fossil fuels to combat dire computer model predictions.  It's worked so far:

Last edited by Mr. Hooberbloob

I tried to find a historic chart of heating and cooling degree days, all I got was "That data is not available at this time".  To define what a heating or cooling degree days is; 66F is considered 0 point. take the high temp and the low temp each day, add them and divide by 2, that gives the number.  For instance 90 + 70=160 divide by 2= 80.subtract 66 base = 14 cooling degree days. Or 50 high+20 low= 70 divide by 2= 35 which gives 31 heating degree days. 

If NOAA ever decides to make this public again, look at it, it will tell whether it's getting warmer or not, but not why.

Sorry for the confusion.

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