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That man acts like a timid housecats in a room full of bulldogs! Watch him when someone ask him a question. He hems and haws around like he has never even heard of the subject matter. So many "umm" and "ahh", "well" and "you see" etc. just on and on. He has no authority in his voice unless he is talking about "excessive police force" or some other pet peeve he has concerning a LOCAL problem. These are better left to the LOCAL leaders. My God man!!! You are the leader of what used to be the most feared country in the world. It is pretty sad when someone like Putin is beginning to look like a MAN. And while we are on the subject, take everyone of those grown children in the senate and house and send them home. Its time we elect some leaders. Talk about the blind leading the blind!!! 

 

This problem is not going to go away, and although I agree it needs to start (the solution) with addressing issues from Saudi, there is an immediate danger HERE.

Reports are that a computer seized in the Middle East from a student of the sciences had plans and methodologies for a biological attack in the US, originating from the mexico-US border. If anyone who thinks an open border policy is a good thing, then let them be the first to greet our Islamic friends as they bring hell on Earth to us thru that route.  These people are dangerous, with a capital "D", and we must take some action soon.  A biological attack on this country, even a limited one, would effectively crash our economic stability to the ground. A crash we are not likely to recover from any time soon.

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Originally Posted by teyates:

This problem is not going to go away, and although I agree it needs to start (the solution) with addressing issues from Saudi, there is an immediate danger HERE.

Reports are that a computer seized in the Middle East from a student of the sciences had plans and methodologies for a biological attack in the US, originating from the mexico-US border. If anyone who thinks an open border policy is a good thing, then let them be the first to greet our Islamic friends as they bring hell on Earth to us thru that route.  These people are dangerous, with a capital "D", and we must take some action soon.  A biological attack on this country, even a limited one, would effectively crash our economic stability to the ground. A crash we are not likely to recover from any time soon.

 t you can blame your concerns on the warmonger bushes. Obama didn't stir up the wasp nest you did

Here's a plan:

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Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, made clear this weekend his foreign policy strategy for dealing with the militant group Islamic State: “bomb them back to the Stone Age.”

 

"They want to go back and reject modernity," he said. "Well, I think we should help them. We ought to bomb them back to the Stone Age."

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Trouble is we would have to carpet bomb entire regions. The jehadim hide amongst the civilians.  However, there are several targets in Syria that sorties by B-52s would be beneficial.  There is a large ammo dump, a combination ammo dump/equipment depot and a command and control center controlled by ISIS. Too big for drones or even F-16s, but inviting for BUFFs. 

Originally Posted by direstraits:

Trouble is we would have to carpet bomb entire regions. The jehadim hide amongst the civilians.  However, there are several targets in Syria that sorties by B-52s would be beneficial.  There is a large ammo dump, a combination ammo dump/equipment depot and a command and control center controlled by ISIS. Too big for drones or even F-16s, but inviting for BUFFs. 

Do it once and the regions would not allow them to hide in their regions.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I'm so proud we have a bunch of geniuses working on solutions. 

What I don't understand is why the police or army in that region would surrender to ISIS. If they surrender, they are gonna kill them anyway. 

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Most just ran away.  Hopefully, the rest will learn a lesson and stand and fight, if they can't run.

 

If there is a 911 type attack by ISIS in the next two years, the Dems will blame Bush.  If, an attack comes one day after the Republican president takes over, the Dems will say he should have anticipated, it.

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I'm so proud we have a bunch of geniuses working on solutions. 

What I don't understand is why the police or army in that region would surrender to ISIS. If they surrender, they are gonna kill them anyway. 

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Most just ran away.  Hopefully, the rest will learn a lesson and stand and fight, if they can't run.

 

If there is a 911 type attack by ISIS in the next two years, the Dems will blame Bush.  If, an attack comes one day after the Republican president takes over, the Dems will say he should have anticipated, it.

dire I will blame it on bush ahead of time and be correct in doing so. you're still dumb I see. lol

 

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I'm so proud we have a bunch of geniuses working on solutions. 

What I don't understand is why the police or army in that region would surrender to ISIS. If they surrender, they are gonna kill them anyway. 

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Most just ran away.  Hopefully, the rest will learn a lesson and stand and fight, if they can't run.

 

If there is a 911 type attack by ISIS in the next two years, the Dems will blame Bush.  If, an attack comes one day after the Republican president takes over, the Dems will say he should have anticipated, it.

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and dire will blame it on obama.. because nothing bad happened during bush's 'war on terror'.. it'll have to be obama's fault.. or it could be clinton's.

“There are a number of commercial airliners in Libya that are missing,” said one official. “We found out on Sept. 11 what can happen with hijacked planes.”

 

The Department of Homeland Security has lost track of more than 6,000 foreign nationals who entered the United States on student visas, overstayed their welcome, and essentially vanished -- exploiting a security gap that was supposed to be fixed after the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.

 

"My greatest concern is that they could be doing anything," said Peter Edge, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement official who oversees investigations into visa violators. "Some of them could be here to do us harm."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/...ts/story?id=25208740

 

It's not ISIS or ISIL that's junior varsity, it's the Obama IDJITS.

The last time we had a strategy for mideast conflict, didn't we invade a country based on lies and deceptions.  It cost up billions of unpaid war costs, cost 4,000 American lives. destablized the entire mideast, created this modern world wide terrorist network and made American military industrial complex billions and part of them moved out of America to avoid paying tax on the profits.

It is one of the left's self conceits  to smile indulgently when conservatives mention the chances that Clinton had to eliminate bin Laden and didn't take them.  If, al Qaeda's chief money man, engineer capable of planning the destruction of large buildings,, main fanatic and zealot, and chief utter nutter had been eliminated earlier in the game, isn't it very possible that 911  and the aftermath would never have happened!

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

The last time we had a strategy for mideast conflict, didn't we invade a country based on lies and deceptions.  It cost up billions of unpaid war costs, cost 4,000 American lives. destablized the entire mideast, created this modern world wide terrorist network and made American military industrial complex billions and part of them moved out of America to avoid paying tax on the profits.

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The Muslim Brotherhood, progenitor of most modern terrorist organizations, has existed since 1928.  The Arab spring destabilized not just north Africa, but the Middle East, as well. There is no reason to believe Saddam would have survived any more than many of those overthrown as a result. 

 

The defense industry is one that I have heard as moving offs****.  Do you have knowledge of such, please!

 

Originally Posted by uandurine:

Obama's in a tough spot.  He doesn't want to go to war and he can't ignore IS, so he's trying to contain the conflict by throwing a bunch of money and some bombs at it.  If he can keep the fight there long enough then he'll be able to pass the problem to the next administration.

The problem has grown over the last year and doesn't seem to be slowing.   We are looking at a big attack here and it's only a matter of time.  Obama might not want war but ignoring the fact ISIS has declared war on us is willfully negligent.  

It is one of the left's self conceits  to smile indulgently when conservatives mention the chances that Clinton had to eliminate bin Laden and didn't take them.  If, al Qaeda's chief money man, engineer capable of planning the destruction of large buildings,, main fanatic and zealot, and chief utter nutter had been eliminated earlier in the game, isn't it very possible that 911  and the aftermath would never have happened!

 I remember when Clinton tried to take out Bin Laden. The right wing screamed about him bombing an aspirin factory.  If he would have got him, he would still  be called a murderer for killing an innocent man.

 

The defense industry is one that I have heard as moving offs****.  Do you have knowledge of such, please!

 

I'm pretty sure Haliburton moved to Oman or Quatar. 

 

Over a year ago, first the CIA and Syrian embassy warned that ISIS needed to be eliminated. Our embassy in Iraq joined the plea, all to no avail.

 

See my comment about rushing into war based on lies and misconceptions.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

It is one of the left's self conceits  to smile indulgently when conservatives mention the chances that Clinton had to eliminate bin Laden and didn't take them.  If, al Qaeda's chief money man, engineer capable of planning the destruction of large buildings,, main fanatic and zealot, and chief utter nutter had been eliminated earlier in the game, isn't it very possible that 911  and the aftermath would never have happened!

 I remember when Clinton tried to take out Bin Laden. The right wing screamed about him bombing an aspirin factory.  If he would have got him, he would still  be called a murderer for killing an innocent man.

 

The defense industry is one that I have heard as moving offs****.  Do you have knowledge of such, please!

 

I'm pretty sure Haliburton moved to Oman or Quatar. 

 

Over a year ago, first the CIA and Syrian embassy warned that ISIS needed to be eliminated. Our embassy in Iraq joined the plea, all to no avail.

 

See my comment about rushing into war based on lies and misconceptions.

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It is one of the left's self conceits  to smile indulgently when conservatives mention the chances that Clinton had to eliminate bin Laden and didn't take them.  If, al Qaeda's chief money man, engineer capable of planning the destruction of large buildings,, main fanatic and zealot, and chief utter nutter had been eliminated earlier in the game, isn't it very possible that 911  and the aftermath would never have happened!

 

 I remember when Clinton tried to take out Bin Laden. The right wing screamed about him bombing an aspirin factory.  If he would have got him, he would still  be called a murderer for killing an innocent man.

 Wrong, the right derided Clinton for ineffective attacks. The aspirin factory was struck because supposedly they were creating VX nerve gas, which is still unproven. It was the left and UN organizations that charged Clinton with killing people by denying them the drugs made at the factory.  The other missile attack made by Clinton was against an abandoned al Qaeda camp. We spent millions blowing up empty mud huts.

 

The defense industry is one that I have heard as moving offs****.  Do you have knowledge of such, please! 

 

I'm pretty sure Haliburton (sic) moved to Oman or Quatar (sic). 

 

 From Wiki. “Halliburton Company/ˈhælɨbɜrtən/ is an American multinational corporation, and one of the world's largest[8] oil field services companies with operations in more than 80 countries. It owns hundreds of subsidiaries, affiliates, branches, brands, and divisions worldwide and employs approximately 100,000 people.[7]

 

Halliburton did have contracts to build and maintain camps in the middle east as it was present in the area and had the `expertise to do it quickly.  Defense is not one of major activites.

Over a year ago, first the CIA and Syrian embassy warned that ISIS needed to be eliminated. Our embassy in Iraq joined the plea, all to no avail.

 

See my comment about rushing into war based on lies and misconceptions.

 

Again, the war would have been unnecessary if al Qaeda and bin Laden were nipped in the bud. Instead, the left will allow it to fester and grow. 

 

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