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giftedamateur posted:

Another Trump thread. Wow old dude, you really are obsessed to the point of insanity.

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How so?  Trump is the single most controversial person in the news these days.

If my posting a few times about him is "insane," then all the print media and all the electronic media that daily--and sometimes multiple times per day--report the sayings and doings of this loathsome varmint must also be insane. You have a perverted notion of insanity.  Straighten up your head!

Trump is largely a creation of both major parties. Too many Republican congresscritters and senew*h*ores have chosen to surrender to Obama and senew*h*ore Reid and the demmy-dummies have ignored the working class voter for the welfare class voter and the "share the wealth and jobs with the rest of the world" limousine liberal. People are angry and working people who normally vote for dems are crossing over in open primary states to push Trump over the top while in closed primaries, Cruz wins.

Stanky posted:

Trump is largely a creation of both major parties. Too many Republican congresscritters and senew*h*ores have chosen to surrender to Obama and senew*h*ore Reid and the demmy-dummies have ignored the working class voter for the welfare class voter and the "share the wealth and jobs with the rest of the world" limousine liberal. People are angry and working people who normally vote for dems are crossing over in open primary states to push Trump over the top while in closed primaries, Cruz wins.

Yes, and as posted, all this and the Democrats pretend they don't understand how Trump came to be.

Trump is the result of both parties ignoring large portions of the citizenry.  Stanky correctly identified the Dems sins of commission.  Republicans have done the same to enrich the Chamber of Commerce portion of the party.  If the GOP doesn't swerve to accommodate the forgotten majorities, they will join the We Haven In God (Whig) party as a footnote in the history books.

Once again, Contendie can't discern fact from fiction:

 

http://www.snopes.com/liselotte-hubner-donald-trump/

Liselotte Whobner?

A meme featuring an image of Donald Trump and a quote purportedly from "Liselotte Hübner" was shared in February 2016.


Claim: Liselotte Hubner remarked in 1929 that the rise of Hitler, a "blusterous man," had dumbfounded educated people.

MOSTLY FALSE

 

Example: [Collected via Email, February 2016]

Did a woman named Liselotte Hubner say in 1929, "The rise of this blusterous man bewilders the educated among us, conjoins opposing politicians, agonizes out international allies,threatens minorities, spits on the disabled, touches the hearts of those who just don't know any better.

"Let us stop propounding how mad this all is, but instead let us do something."

Origin:In February 2016, a meme featuring an image of Donald Trump, superimposed with a quote ostensibly uttered by someone named "Liselotte Hübner," started to circulate. The quote read:

My fellow citizens, the rise of this blusterous man bewilders the educated among us, conjoins opposing politicians, agonizes our international allies, threatens minorities, spits on the disabled, and touches the hearts of those who just don't know any better.

Let us stop propounding how mad this all is, but instead, do something.

Liselotte Hübner, 1929

 

Many who viewed the meme were left with more questions than answers: Who was Liselotte Hübner? Did she really say this? Was she a historical figure? How did it relate to Donald Trump?

The meme originated on the Facebook page of Sebastian Mueller-Soppart on 22 February 2016:

According to Sebastian, Liselotte Hübner was a woman who spent time in a concentration camp after voicing her opinion about Hitler. She is also his grandmother:

I did the translation recently, based on what my mom told me. Liselotte, my grandmother, spent two years in a concentration camp after voicing her opinion.

Sebastian admitted that the quote, as lyrical as it is, may not be entirely accurate, as there is no way to determine exactly what Hübner said:

Liselotte, my grandmother, spoke out against Hitler and consequently spent over two years in a concentration camp. Her exact words are unknown.

While some may see a connection to Hübner's quote and the rise of Donald Trump, the original context of the words apparently had little to do with modern politics, and indeed, may not have been said at all.

We've reached out to Sebastian Mueller-Soppart for further information about the origins of this quote.

 

 

 

 

Last updated: 25 February 2016

Originally published: 25 February 2016

 
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:

Once again, Contendie can't discern fact from fiction:

 

http://www.snopes.com/liselotte-hubner-donald-trump/

Liselotte Whobner?

A meme featuring an image of Donald Trump and a quote purportedly from "Liselotte Hübner" was shared in February 2016.


 

I did the translation recently, based on what my mom told me. Liselotte, my grandmother, spent two years in a concentration camp after voicing her opinion.

Sebastian admitted that the quote, as lyrical as it is, may not be entirely accurate, as there is no way to determine exactly what Hübner said:

Liselotte, my grandmother, spoke out against Hitler and consequently spent over two years in a concentration camp. Her exact words are unknown.

While some may see a connection to Hübner's quote and the rise of Donald Trump, the original context of the words apparently had little to do with modern politics, and indeed, may not have been said at all.

We've reached out to Sebastian Mueller-Soppart for further information about the origins of this quote.

 

 

 

 

Last updated: 25 February 2016

Originally published: 25 February 2016

 

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Now comes the right wing, invoking support from snopes.com ---the same snopes.com that is regularly denounced by the wingers as a propaganda tool allegedly financed and controlled by George Soros!!!!!

Every Republican candidate since Eisenhower was compared with Hitler since Eisenhower. Ike, the Dems stated, was a dunce. They didn't dare compare him with Schikelgruber for obvious reasons.  My dad, who voted Democrat until Reagan and served in the Third Army, voted for Ike out of disgust for the Dems dishonesty.  So did most vets.

Contendahh posted:
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:

Once again, Contendie can't discern fact from fiction:

 

http://www.snopes.com/liselotte-hubner-donald-trump/

Liselotte Whobner?

A meme featuring an image of Donald Trump and a quote purportedly from "Liselotte Hübner" was shared in February 2016.


 

I did the translation recently, based on what my mom told me. Liselotte, my grandmother, spent two years in a concentration camp after voicing her opinion.

Sebastian admitted that the quote, as lyrical as it is, may not be entirely accurate, as there is no way to determine exactly what Hübner said:

Liselotte, my grandmother, spoke out against Hitler and consequently spent over two years in a concentration camp. Her exact words are unknown.

While some may see a connection to Hübner's quote and the rise of Donald Trump, the original context of the words apparently had little to do with modern politics, and indeed, may not have been said at all.

We've reached out to Sebastian Mueller-Soppart for further information about the origins of this quote.

 

 

 

 

Last updated: 25 February 2016

Originally published: 25 February 2016

 

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Now comes the right wing, invoking support from snopes.com ---the same snopes.com that is regularly denounced by the wingers as a propaganda tool allegedly financed and controlled by George Soros!!!!!

Again confused with facts vs. fiction.  I have never said anything negative about Snopes.  However, if it is a left wing tool, then you've been owned by your own ilk.

Mr. Hooberbloob posted:
Contendahh posted:
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:

Once again, Contendie can't discern fact from fiction:

 

http://www.snopes.com/liselotte-hubner-donald-trump/

Liselotte Whobner?

A meme featuring an image of Donald Trump and a quote purportedly from "Liselotte Hübner" was shared in February 2016.


 

I did the translation recently, based on what my mom told me. Liselotte, my grandmother, spent two years in a concentration camp after voicing her opinion.

Sebastian admitted that the quote, as lyrical as it is, may not be entirely accurate, as there is no way to determine exactly what Hübner said:

Liselotte, my grandmother, spoke out against Hitler and consequently spent over two years in a concentration camp. Her exact words are unknown.

While some may see a connection to Hübner's quote and the rise of Donald Trump, the original context of the words apparently had little to do with modern politics, and indeed, may not have been said at all.

We've reached out to Sebastian Mueller-Soppart for further information about the origins of this quote.

 

 

 

 

Last updated: 25 February 2016

Originally published: 25 February 2016

 

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Now comes the right wing, invoking support from snopes.com ---the same snopes.com that is regularly denounced by the wingers as a propaganda tool allegedly financed and controlled by George Soros!!!!!

Again confused with facts vs. fiction.  I have never said anything negative about Snopes.  However, if it is a left wing tool, then you've been owned by your own ilk.

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Thanks for the clarification re your take on snopes.  Henceforth I will assume that when I post snopes in rebuttal to anything you assert, you will not be among those who automatically reject snopes as a leftist tool financed by Soros.

Mr. Hooberbloob posted:

I think it's safe to say that based on the continual posting of false content, Contendie and Woz are actually the split personalities of one person.  At the mental ward that he currently resides, these personas are better known as "Dumb" and "Dumber".

Considering the disordered content of that eructation, your title should be "irrelevant" and "more irrelevant."

Contendahh posted:
Mr. Hooberbloob posted:

I think it's safe to say that based on the continual posting of false content, Contendie and Woz are actually the split personalities of one person.  At the mental ward that he currently resides, these personas are better known as "Dumb" and "Dumber".

Considering the disordered content of that eructation, your title should be "irrelevant" and "more irrelevant."

I take it back, they just call him "dumbest".

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