What turns you off most about politics?
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This might be your worst post yet. I bet you read the whole thing didn't you. How many times did it list Bush? I am sure you tallied that up.
quote:Originally posted by Fighting Illini:
This might be your worst post yet. I bet you read the whole thing didn't you. How many times did it list Bush? I am sure you tallied that up.
Look let us be fair, Can you name 5 things That Bush did that was so Grand? oH, the tax cuts for the rich don't count! because a man that made 50,000 a year only got $11.00 tax break.
The main duty of the President is to lead. As for tax cuts, they help many people indirectly as well as those who directly get the money back in their pockets. They are also known as incentives and they bring about job growth and increased wealth which leads to higher tax revenues. There is no point in pushing my opinion of Bush on you, which I am not that favorable of in many areas.
quote:Originally posted by Fighting Illini:
The main duty of the President is to lead. As for tax cuts, they help many people indirectly as well as those who directly get the money back in their pockets. They are also known as incentives and they bring about job growth and increased wealth which leads to higher tax revenues. There is no point in pushing my opinion of Bush on you, which I am not that favorable of in many areas.
Do you think Bush knows how to lead?
We really know that Cheney pulls his chain
don't we?quote:Originally posted by Fighting Illini:
The main duty of the President is to lead. As for tax cuts, they help many people indirectly as well as those who directly get the money back in their pockets. They are also known as incentives and they bring about job growth and increased wealth which leads to higher tax revenues. There is no point in pushing my opinion of Bush on you, which I am not that favorable of in many areas.
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I didn't read the article but I agree with you that a President's job is to lead. Problem is , every time this president has led, it has been a disaster for this country. What astonishes me is that Bush lovers can't see that.
As far as your wonderful tax breaks, the one I got was $0.19 per payday- every 2 weeks. That's $4.94 / year, and I made about twice the national average wages. All those tax breaks go to those making over $200,000 per year. Now, if you make that kind of money, yes, you should vote for Bush, but if you make less , then you are foolish to vote for those people.
Let me make trickle down economics simple for you with this example.
Trickle down economics says that if you give big tax breaks to Anhauser Bush, that they will go build more breweries, and hire a bunch of people, and make more beer. The world is better off (except that the middle class can't afford to go buy more beer)
Trickle up economics says that if you give tax breaks to middle class people, we will go buy more beer, causing Anhauser-Bush to have to build more breweries, and hire more people to make more beer to meet the demand.
Now I ask you, which is more believeable?
Trickle down economics is a farce, and is only good for those who are in the upper income brackets, and anybody that tells you different is a liar. Even Bush1 referred to it as "Voodoo economics".
Fighting Illini the word Bush appears 187 times in the list. There are three thousand nine hundred eighty seven entries. Four Per Cent of the responses mentioned Bush.quote:Originally posted by Fighting Illini:
This might be your worst post yet. I bet you read the whole thing didn't you. How many times did it list Bush? I am sure you tallied that up.
Now, that is a piece of work, you owe me two hundred twenty five dollars and thirty seven cents.
Please remit the funds to the Episcopal church in your town, for Katrina reconstruction relief.
Some of my favs (highlights mine):
18 lying
19 Dumbing down of issues
29 stupid people
32 How many people are uninformed.
38 lies and the lying liars....
54 mud slinging
59 The ugly side- the backstabbing and just plain false facts and ugly truths that are presented to the media, and in turn, presented to us.
61 people who are so closed minded they pick a party and rigidly follow all of its platforms
64 politi-speak, would somebody please, just answer the question!
1330 How it is so media driven now that campaigns are ruled by soundbites, real issues aren't discussed, and voters now choose their President and other elected officials based on likability rather than issues or intelligence.
18 lying
19 Dumbing down of issues
29 stupid people
32 How many people are uninformed.
38 lies and the lying liars....
54 mud slinging
59 The ugly side- the backstabbing and just plain false facts and ugly truths that are presented to the media, and in turn, presented to us.
61 people who are so closed minded they pick a party and rigidly follow all of its platforms
64 politi-speak, would somebody please, just answer the question!
1330 How it is so media driven now that campaigns are ruled by soundbites, real issues aren't discussed, and voters now choose their President and other elected officials based on likability rather than issues or intelligence.
Well said excelman, but in even simpler terms, trickle down economics simply means that if the rich drop any money and don't relize it... PICK IT UP!!!!!
Bush, Cheney (the brains) and Condi... enough to make me throw up!!!
Makes Larry, Moe & Curly look like geniuses.
quote:Originally posted by pba:
What turns you off most about politics?
All the ballyhoo that goes along with it.
What turns me off:
1. Stupid and ingnorant people are allowed to vote. If you do not know the issues of the day, if you do not know how the federal, state, and local governments operate (i.e. you failed 8th, 10th, 11th, and 12th grade history and civics classes), and when you show up to vote, and you still do not know the issues, how gov't works, current events, then you should not be allowed to vote. Ignorant and stupid people voting results in ignorant and stupid people getting voted into office, when those that know what is going on do not get voted in.
2. Mudslinging. Especially by the media. It is keeping good people away from running for office or leadership positions.
3. Appointed judges. They should be elected, and not elected via the party system, i.e. they should not be a member of any party. Judges should interpret the law face value, not rule from the bench.
4. Parties. They should do away with Republican, Democratic, etc. parties. Call the candidates, and make the candidates declare, what they believe in. I.e. Conservative, Moderate-middle of the road, and liberal.
5. WAY too much money in politics today. It has gotten totally out of control.
6. Polls. Too many people, and politicians also, go the way the wind blew the poll that day. Leadership and standing up for what you believe in are going the way of the do-do bird. Plus, lots of polls twist and spin the questions to make a poll go one way or the other. Just keep it simple, and simple yes-no type answers.
7. Ignoring the Constitution, Bill of Rights, borders, etc. by our elected leaders. This has got to stop.
NOTE: for the purpose of this post-
ignorant: unaware of the topic at hand, and acts without prior knowledge. I.e. uninformed.
stupid: aware of the topic at hand, but acts foolishly with this prior knowledge. I.e. informed, but goes unwisely against this prior knowledge.
1. Stupid and ingnorant people are allowed to vote. If you do not know the issues of the day, if you do not know how the federal, state, and local governments operate (i.e. you failed 8th, 10th, 11th, and 12th grade history and civics classes), and when you show up to vote, and you still do not know the issues, how gov't works, current events, then you should not be allowed to vote. Ignorant and stupid people voting results in ignorant and stupid people getting voted into office, when those that know what is going on do not get voted in.
2. Mudslinging. Especially by the media. It is keeping good people away from running for office or leadership positions.
3. Appointed judges. They should be elected, and not elected via the party system, i.e. they should not be a member of any party. Judges should interpret the law face value, not rule from the bench.
4. Parties. They should do away with Republican, Democratic, etc. parties. Call the candidates, and make the candidates declare, what they believe in. I.e. Conservative, Moderate-middle of the road, and liberal.
5. WAY too much money in politics today. It has gotten totally out of control.
6. Polls. Too many people, and politicians also, go the way the wind blew the poll that day. Leadership and standing up for what you believe in are going the way of the do-do bird. Plus, lots of polls twist and spin the questions to make a poll go one way or the other. Just keep it simple, and simple yes-no type answers.
7. Ignoring the Constitution, Bill of Rights, borders, etc. by our elected leaders. This has got to stop.
NOTE: for the purpose of this post-
ignorant: unaware of the topic at hand, and acts without prior knowledge. I.e. uninformed.
stupid: aware of the topic at hand, but acts foolishly with this prior knowledge. I.e. informed, but goes unwisely against this prior knowledge.
quote:Originally posted by DHS-86:
Makes Larry, Moe & Curly look like geniuses.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
quote:Originally posted by Fighting Illini:
The main duty of the President is to lead. As for tax cuts, they help many people indirectly as well as those who directly get the money back in their pockets. They are also known as incentives and they bring about job growth and increased wealth which leads to higher tax revenues. There is no point in pushing my opinion of Bush on you, which I am not that favorable of in many areas.
OH PULEEAASE!!! An Administration that has spent around 500 BILLION dollars on Iraq and you are worried about taxes???
Well, NOW you have REASON to worry, so do your kids, and grandkids, and great-grandkids!!!
quote:Originally posted by bluesmann:
pba, that is a long list. Good site, but the best thing that could help polticcs, would be if the Hooters girls would run for office.
Heck, I am a woman, and I WOULD even allow that to happen!!! LOL... Would have to make blinders for my guy though! (as if that would do any good) LOL!!!
ANYTHING/ANYBODY would be better than what we have!!!
Good One bluesman!!!