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Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:

This is a complete and total cluster f#@k. We should have never been over there to begin with.

 

The majority of those people are savages that have been fighting for a 1,000 years. 

 

Why are we so arrogant to believe that we can change that?

Seems like everything was in control until the administration failed to secure a agreement allowing troops to continue training Iraqi soldiers.   This administration made sure all that blood and treasure was in vain.  Thy believe the war on terrorism is over and our real threat is climate change.  America people will suffer from this administration naivete.

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Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:

This is a complete and total cluster f#@k. We should have never been over there to begin with.

 

The majority of those people are savages that have been fighting for a 1,000 years. 

 

Why are we so arrogant to believe that we can change that?

Agreed. I know I can't be the only one in the world who saw this coming. It was seemingly inevitable. 

Should have left 10K soldiers in Iraq to maintain the peace and keep a dialogue up with the "tribes."  Our arrogant Commander in Chief didn't want to be bothered with Iraq--preferring to spend his time playing golf than building personal relationships with anyone.  (I'm not kidding.)

 

Now, the whole world's screwed.  Do you want to live under Sharia law?

 

And all the time, the EU is again turning their backs.  They'll be affected much quicker than the U.S.

Originally Posted by Bamaman1:

Should have left 10K soldiers in Iraq to maintain the peace and keep a dialogue up with the "tribes."  Our arrogant Commander in Chief didn't want to be bothered with Iraq--preferring to spend his time playing golf than building personal relationships with anyone.  (I'm not kidding.)

 

Now, the whole world's screwed.  Do you want to live under Sharia law?

 

And all the time, the EU is again turning their backs.  They'll be affected much quicker than the U.S.

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You make it sound like Mr. Obama is the only President that ever played golf  !!

Drones are for carefully targeted strikes. The Hellfire missile kills many fewer than the air force's smallest bomb (500 lb) or army's smallest long range missile (250 lb).  Best bet is to activate, and or insert CIA assets with forward observer experience.  Then, target convoys between the cities with gunships and fighters.

Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

kp, let's bring back the draft, whatta you think?

QD, I know you are a dem and as a result you blindly agree with everything Obama and the dems do.

 

However, does it not concern you that we are killing innocent civilians with these drones? It creates a whole new group of motivated terrorists. 

kp, you are suddenly concerned about citizens in Iraq? un-believable......what about the 100's of thousands the Gulf war killed by: So why did we invade Iraq? I believe it was the triumph of the so-called neo-conservative ideology, as well as Bush administration arrogance and incompetence that took America into this war of choice. . . . They obviously made a convincing case to a president with very limited national security and foreign policy experience????????????????????????????

here's my plan:

1.let ISIS get about 20 miles from Bagdad, attack the front of the convoy and stop them in their tracks. They probably didn't bring enough sandwiches to last very long and when anyone leaves the road let them get away from the convoy a distance then capture them.

 

2.let the Iranians send rag heads into the already captured cities to purge them of what can't be a huge number of ISIS.

Originally Posted by Quaildog:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

kp, let's bring back the draft, whatta you think?

QD, I know you are a dem and as a result you blindly agree with everything Obama and the dems do.

 

However, does it not concern you that we are killing innocent civilians with these drones? It creates a whole new group of motivated terrorists. 

kp, you are suddenly concerned about citizens in Iraq? un-believable......what about the 100's of thousands the Gulf war killed by: So why did we invade Iraq? I believe it was the triumph of the so-called neo-conservative ideology, as well as Bush administration arrogance and incompetence that took America into this war of choice. . . . They obviously made a convincing case to a president with very limited national security and foreign policy experience????????????????????????????

Not sure what you mean about me being "suddenly concerned"? I have been against our involvement in Iraq from the get go.

 

It's one of the differences between people like me and kool-aid drinkers like you. I look at the issue and determine what my opinion is. You have to see what the Democratic Party opinion is before you can form your own opinion.

 

I bet as a Dem you claim to be for preserving civil liberties and was against the Patriot Act. However, I bet you have no problem with the fact that warrantless wiretaps have quadrupled under Barack's Gestapo. 

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

kp, we the dems look at the big picture while you pubs breed in factions which produce arguments only with no solutions. .......too many "have not's" is always the source of problems

 

P.S. Religions are factions.

What makes you think I'm a repub?

 

Why do you and Barack have so little respect for our civil liberties?

Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

kp, we the dems look at the big picture while you pubs breed in factions which produce arguments only with no solutions. .......too many "have not's" is always the source of problems

 

P.S. Religions are factions.

What makes you think I'm a repub?

 

Why do you and Barack have so little respect for our civil liberties?

Well kp, what civil liberties are you referring to? .........me and my man protect yours..

you can't get over a black man winning an election can you?

I'm against major US military force sent to Iraq.  However, I'm against a major terrorist organization having their own oil rich state to project their operations.  Again, forward observers to identify their convoys and formations,.  Then, destruction by gunship and fighters.  Let the Iraqis and Iranians fight the ISIS in the cities   Hopefully, both will suffer heavy casualties.

Better get DARPA to dust off the old hafnium bomb project.  It produces 5 times the power of our largest conventional one (fuel air) and one-third the power of a large tactical nuke -- all without any radiation.  May have to go to old Beziers backup plan -- kill'em all, Lucifer will know his own.

 

Originally Posted by Quaildog:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

kp, we the dems look at the big picture while you pubs breed in factions which produce arguments only with no solutions. .......too many "have not's" is always the source of problems

 

P.S. Religions are factions.

What makes you think I'm a repub?

 

Why do you and Barack have so little respect for our civil liberties?

Well kp, what civil liberties are you referring to? .........me and my man protect yours..

you can't get over a black man winning an election can you?

Warrantless wiretappings have quadrupled under your boy Barack. It's just another similarity between he and W. Both of them have little regard for our civil liberties.

 

The funny thing is that the kool aid drinking simpletons such as yourself probably hated the Patriot Act but love Barack's Gestapo spying on citizens and using drones to execute citizens. I would encourage to try and learn to think for yourself instead of basing every one of your beliefs on what a politician tells you to think. I will add that you are not the only one guilty of that on this forum. 

 

I want black people to succeed. It is why I support giving poor black kids vouchers to get out of their crappy schools. Why do you want to deny poor black kids that opportunity, QD? 

Last edited by Kenny Powers
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

here's my plan:

1.let ISIS get about 20 miles from Bagdad, attack the front of the convoy and stop them in their tracks. They probably didn't bring enough sandwiches to last very long and when anyone leaves the road let them get away from the convoy a distance then capture them.

 

2.let the Iranians send rag heads into the already captured cities to purge them of what can't be a huge number of ISIS.

I thought you were enlightened how can you use such a derogatory racist term?

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