Who said '....the Dems don't want our guns?'

I don't agree with her, but, is she the only honest politician in DC?  I'm not used to hearing one of them tell the truth.

Unfortunately, when you vote democrat you vote for extreme gun control.  Controlling what kind of gun I can buy ain't gonna stop the criminal.  If you take all the guns away, criminals will have even less to fear from law abiding citizens.  You can say the left does not want to disarm law abiding citizens all you want, when I listen to and watch the left leaning press, I get the impression that is the goal of the left.

claiming 'democrats are all for gun control' is like saying 'all republicans are for denying equal rights'. such a blanket statement says more about the person posting it, than the complaint. thinking like that is what's wrong with the republican party.. and it'll show in the next election. don't be shocked when more democrats win.. and republicans lose.

What about having to show some level of proficency with a gun before getting a permit.  In Tennessee, you have to go somewhere and shoot it.  I don't know if you have to hit a target or just give them some money.  

There needs to be some quick response accuracy with the gun.  In a lot of situations, there isn't time to lift the gun, brace with the other hand, aim and shoot.  You need to point and shoot, not aim and shoot.

Last year while listening to talk radio, a gun shop owner was the guest.  One caller said, I recently inherited 3 guns.  Can I bring them to your shop and have maintenance preformed on them.  And also could you tell me what type of bullets to buy for them.  Of course, the answer was yes.  Does that man really need a gun?

He may not "need" them, but if he's not a criminal he has every freaking right to own them. How do you know he's not going to learn to use them? Most people with guns know how to use them, sadly that includes criminals. There are still places in this country where a gun is a necessity for home/land owners.

What the hell does inheriting a firearm in a caliber one is not familiar with have to do with needing a gun?

I was not debating whether or not he could have them, it is his right.  I was debating, should he have a permit to carry.  And he should get educated on proper use and care.

The reason I'm concerned with use is, in Chattanooga two or three years ago, a man created a disturbance at a business.  He shot one time and killed a policeman, the responders shot fourty something times and hit him 12 times and he is still alive.  In New York City, the police shot 9 bystanders while trying to shoot someone they thought was dangerous.  These officers are supposed to be experts.  They need training in shooting.  Most people with a gun needs training.

No, its actually like saying 'republicans are all against abortion'.  While there are a few republicans, I'm  sure, that are pro choice, the party platform is pro life.  

Much like the democrat party platform is pro gun control.

copy/paste DIRECTLY from the 'democratic party website'.. democrats.org
again, why is the battle cry 'they're gonna take our guns'?

http://www.democrats.org/democratic-national-platform

Firearms. We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans' Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements—like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole—so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.

Whenever anyone, especially a gun owner, refers to a semi-auto as an assault rifle, they have told me all I need to know regarding their lack of knowledge of firearms.

Period.

 "we can work together to enact commonsense improvements"

There are an awful lot of laws being introduced and passed regarding banning certain firearms, specifically those that have a certain size magazine (even if its not detachable).  The vast majority of them are introduced by democrats as part of the platform you quoted (section requoted above).

again.. 'work together to enact commonsense improvements'..  from the democrats

          'they're gonna take our guns' from the republicans..

there can be no 'commonsense' discussion.. therefore, there can be no 'commonsense' improvements... pretty plain to me.

You stated this not "all" so I pointed out some do want take guns from citizens. Now you changed it to ALL.

didn't ask about 'gun control laws'... nor did i say anything about banning any weapons, yet here we are again.. 'they're gonna take our guns'... there can be no discussion of the topic. not as long as the rt. wingnuts battle cry is 'they're gonna take our guns'.

The 'common sense' of a group of thieves and the 'common sense' of hard working people are two different things, much like the difference between the 'common sense' of a liberal and a conservative. Use of that phrase does not signify agreement between two groups.

But you already knew that.

Btw - "commonsense improvements - like reinstating the assault weapons ban...." - a policy that was never shown to work in the first place, sure sounds a lot like a pro gun control policy to me.

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i wasn't addressing your post. sorry for the confusion.

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wow! what a great discussion.. first, the 'thieves' comparison.. then, reagan's gun ban.. and your opinion on what democratic party policy 'sounds like'... that about covers it.

Anyone I see associated with the term 'redistribution of wealth' gets labelled as a thief.  Sorry if that hurts anyones feelings.  

And who created the original weapons ban is irrelevant at this point.  They tried it, it didn't help, we let it expire.  it says a lot more about the folks that want to keep trying the same, ineffective policy over and over than it does about the person who originally created it.

Anyone I see associated with the term 'redistribution of wealth' gets labelled as a thief.  Sorry if that hurts anyones feelings.  

Who coined that phrase?  Was it Fox?

Re: what Tennessee requires to obtain a CCW permit:  Applicants MUST sign up for, pay (usually $100), then QUALIFY with their firearm.  The class is 8hours in length.  The instructors all MUST be licensed by the state and provide documentation that THEY are trained to instruct in firearms.  Passing score is '70'.  I scored a '100'.  My wife scored a '96'.  The permit itself is issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety (THP).  IIRC, initial licensing fee was $120.  The permit is good for 4 years. Renewal cost is $50. 

The fees, in my professional opinion, are excessive, especially for folks on fixed incomes that desire to exercise their right to self defense.

But if you shoot someone while defending your life and or property, the left loses another voter.

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Come on, you're a teenager, admit it. That phrase was around long before Fox news. Actually the term is too nice to describe what you lefties want. I call it wanting to rob from productive people to give to unproductive people. BTW capt, the left doesn't have feelings, pride or shame.

That's what we have been doing for the past 30 years. Taking from the poor and middle class, and distributing it upward to the richest 1% in the world.

Check this out in case you ahve not already seen it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

while the chart shows the current distribution of wealth, which i was already aware of, i didnt see any proof of the government redirecting the earnings of the poor and giving it to the one percent.....

They want your guns so they can sell them to gang members.

I watched one of seeweed's linked videos. Complete BS. I want 52  minutes of my life back.

But if you shoot someone while defending your life and or property, the left loses another voter.

Mad, If the left ever made the same statements about the right the same way as you, the screams would be heard for miles.

Come on, you're a teenager, admit it. That phrase was around long before Fox news.

Best, if that phrase was around long before Fox news, it sure was kept silent.  Wish I was a teenager.

Are you seriously saying that the term "redistribution of wealth" was recently coined?

Seriously? 

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Apparently he does, and by Fox news. I guess "he heard, someone told him, or he got an email".

I think he is trolling. No one with access to a computer can be that dumb.

redistribution of wealth is Biblical: "Sell all you have and give it to the poor". [Jesus]

Does that mean that the poor would then have to sell all they have and it give it back since they are now rich?

Put two and two together Cap.
This all started in the 80s with cutting taxes on the wealthy, and corporations, and a concerted government push against unions. Still going on by some is an attempt to further redistribute the wealth by placing the burden of the debt, caused byt the lack of funds, onto the seniors by cutting Social Security and Medicare (which "they" refer to as "saving" ) , and cutting unemployment insurance benefits on people who cannot find a job, and cutting food stamps for military families, Walmart and fast food workers, all the while denying  them a raise in the minimum wage to compensate for those cuts.
Redistribution of wealth is exactly what has been going on since the 80s, from the middle class and poor to the wealthy. 

One of the liberals on here has chosen to put his head in a real dark place and has me blocked. Here is a fact for ya'll.  Back when W. cut everyones taxes, I remember the left press saying it was done on the backs of the poor.  After researching tax rates before and after the tax cuts for the rich, I discovered that everyone got a tax cut.  After said tax cut, the ones that did not pay taxes got a bigger return.

And back on topic.  Law abiding citizens do not need any more hoops to go through to buy a firearm, there are enough laws on the books now, enforce them. 

To the best of my knowledge, the phrase was also used in the 1950s by politicians.

In that instance, Jesus was issuing a challenge in order to determine where the individual in question's heart really lay.  The guy didn't pass the test.