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Ladies with all due respect, no one owes you contraception. In truth, no one owes you health insurance either. Liberty would declare that you can buy what you want. But liberty would also declare that I don't have to buy it for you. Neither does your boss.

 

Why Hobby Lobby Is Not an Assault on Women

By Melancton Smith 

 

The reactions from the progressive side of the fence to Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc. was stunning. The spin is that American women have been stripped of fundamental constitutional protections. Sandra Fluke at The Washington Post’s blog claimed that “[t]he Hobby Lobby case is an attack on women.” The White House lamented that the decision “jeopardizes the health of women employed by these companies.” Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, according to CBS News, opined that “[t]his ruling goes out of its way to declare that discrimination against women isn’t discrimination.”

 

So in what nefarious way did Hobby Lobby and other Christian-owned businesses conspire with five members of the Supreme Court to discriminate against women and impair their health? The business owners simply objected to paying for health insurance coverage for four birth control methods that prevent a fertilized egg from developing by inhibiting its attachment to the uterus. Because they believe that life begins at conception, the Christian business owners felt that they would be aiding and abetting the murder of unborn children if they funded these methods. The owners are not against all contraception and voiced no objection to the 16 other FDA-approved birth control methods that health insurance plans must provide under Obamacare. In essence, these Christian villains simply objected to being forced to provide what they viewed as abortifacients.

 

In interpreting the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (“RFRA&rdquo, the Court simply held that the Christian business owners do not have to pay for the four methods that they believe induce abortion. The Court assumed that the government had a compelling interest in providing cost-free contraceptives but found that the mandates of Obamacare were not the least restrictive means in furthering that interest. This is that statutory test that Congress requires in a RFRA analysis.

 

This decision does not open the door for large corporations and others to successfully invoke RFRA for evil purposes. Remember:

 

1. Key to the Court’s decision was that Hobby Lobby and the other companies were closely held and had an established policy of Christian business ethics.

 

2. In finding that the means were not the least restrictive, the Court pointed out that the federal government already has a health insurance accommodation set up for nonprofit organizations that object to certain contraceptive services. The government has a ready-made vehicle whereby it can channel certain insurance claims made by Hobby Lobby employees. Yes, the government has to pick up the tab, but it is already doing so for many other organizations.

 

Sadly, any decision or act that does not further the agenda of making abortion easy and costless (monetarily) is vilified by the progressives. Hobby Lobby is a limited decision that gave relief to Christian business persons who did not want to aid and abet the termination of human life. Women working for the businesses and desiring the “morning after pill” can still obtain it. Right now they have to pay for the medicine with their own money (apparently unheard of in America) and most likely will soon be able to get the pill for free once the feds channel them into established programs.

 

Left-wingers, get a grip. The sky is not falling.

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The Constitution. Every Issue, Every time. No Exceptions, No Excuses.

 

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."---Thomas Jefferson

 

"That's what governments are for... get in a man's way."---Mal Reynolds Capt. of Serenity, "Firefly-Class" spaceship

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In all of this Hobby Lobby and religious freedom discussion and debate, it is interesting to reflect upon the law most cited by the Supreme Court in establishing its verdict, namely the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.  This act was signed into law by President Clinton after it passed in both houses of Congress with huge majorities.  Here is a summary of the history of this act:

 

http://nypost.com/2014/06/30/a...r-religious-freedom/

Originally Posted by Contendah:

In all of this Hobby Lobby and religious freedom discussion and debate, it is interesting to reflect upon the law most cited by the Supreme Court in establishing its verdict, namely the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.  This act was signed into law by President Clinton after it passed in both houses of Congress with huge majorities.  Here is a summary of the history of this act:

 

http://nypost.com/2014/06/30/a...r-religious-freedom/

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This should be brought up every time Hillary comments on the decision.

 

It is amazing the Libs and the current administration can drag up the most obscure BS of a family business, yet they can't provide nor findmissing e-mails and information that implicate the current administration and their clandestine activities to thwart American freedom.  They are more worried about trying to force someone to provide them with free stuff or more tax money to squander.  It is a disgrace what the media has become. If Huff and Puff, Mother Jones, and MSNBC spent half as much time looking into the dealing at the WH instead of the junk they report they could probably be a reputable news source.

 

This is the type of business David is proud to stand behind:

 

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/....U7Wa99hwdBU.twitter

 

Proving once and for all that Planned Parenthood's business is abortion, Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains gave its Aurora abortion clinic an award certificate for "exceeding abortion visits [in the] first half of FY12 compared to the first half of FY13."

Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains is the 2nd largest Planned Parenthood facility in the U.S.

The picture of the award was snapped by a former worker who saw it posted on a bulletin board in Denver. The board displays awards satellite clinics have earned.

The award challenged the Planned Parenthood worker's thinking, since it showed that clinics were given abortion "quotas" to meet, and that this particular clinic had "exceeded" expectations and received an award for doing so.

From a blog post by Abby Johnson, former Planned Parenthood director turned pro-life advocate:

Ever since I left Planned Parenthood, I have been talking about the abortion quotas that are established inside abortion facilities.  Many abortion supporters refused to believe it, citing that surely Planned Parenthood wants abortion to be safe, legal and RARE.  If they want something to be RARE, they certainly wouldn't have quotas, right?

Planned Parenthood had a net revenue of $1.21 billion last year, and received $540.6 million in U.S. taxpayer funding.

Hobby Lobby pays almost twice the minimum wage on the lowest end of their pay scale and only objected to paying for a particular type of contraceptive which some people believe is a form of abortion...In essence with the insurance they agree to pay for 16 types of contraceptives and object to just 4.


From IJReview.com

 

…Hobby Lobby pay their full-time employees a minimum of $14 an hour. That is nearly double the national average for minimum wage. The hourly wage for part-time employees is also $9.50.

 

“We are very fortunate to be able to increase hourly wages for our employees, because we know our company would not be successful without the great work they do each day in our stores across the nation,” said the CEO and founder David Green.

 

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/0...y-just-want-get-job/

Originally Posted by teyates:

It is amazing the Libs and the current administration can drag up the most obscure BS of a family business, yet they can't provide nor findmissing e-mails and information that implicate the current administration and their clandestine activities to thwart American freedom.  They are more worried about trying to force someone to provide them with free stuff or more tax money to squander.  It is a disgrace what the media has become. If Huff and Puff, Mother Jones, and MSNBC spent half as much time looking into the dealing at the WH instead of the junk they report they could probably be a reputable news source.

 

t, I'm thinking a casual forensic glance at your books would reveal a gracious bounty you receive from Uncle Sam at that hospital.

 

quit griping and take back the practice of medicine from corporate thieves.

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"we suggest things to the doctors" [a case worker] ..........BS!!!!!.... have you received a degree, served a residency and been certified to practice medicine? I don't think so little case worker. LOL....don't suggest anything to a doctor regarding my loved ones.

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

.and BTY RENEGADE, you are correct in saying [quote] "Ladies with all due respect, no one owes you contraception"

 

the fact is this is not a gift.  It is a part of employee wages and to withhold any portion of a person's wages based on your religious belief is criminal.

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It's part of a benefits package...a package forced on Hobby Lobby without respect to their private property rights.

 

the employees are more than free to do what they wish with their wages.

 

 

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renegade it doesn't matter if it was forced on the employer at gunpoint; it was still offered to employees as wages in the form of benefits. It is an expense to do business and therefore a tax deduction.

 

Hobby Lobby is paying for nothing; the employee is paying for the contraceptives.

 

Any matching funds paid by H L for insurance is a tax write-off.

SCOTUS has now defined a separate entity with religious privileges..... a "company".

 

Closely held? Any company could argue they are "closely held".

 

We are talking about a "company". Closely held is one of many adjectives that describes Hobby Lobby. H L is a craft store. One could argue any craft store by precedence has religious privileges against any law.

 

Logically H L could put an employee to death for being tardy and claim religious privilege to do so.

 

After all these pills were the law. Being a craft store one can argue precedence to break the law and not even be closely held. On and on it goes.

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

dire,theft of wages by an employer by any other name is still a felony. being the *** kisser bookkeeper I'm sure you were an accessory to pinching wages from overtime work by employees.

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Name calling and scatology -- the last refuge on the weak minded in argumentation.

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

SCOTUS has now defined a separate entity with religious privileges..... a "company".

 

Closely held? Any company could argue they are "closely held".

 

We are talking about a "company". Closely held is one of many adjectives that describes Hobby Lobby. H L is a craft store. One could argue any craft store by precedence has religious privileges against any law.

 

Logically H L could put an employee to death for being tardy and claim religious privilege to do so.

 

After all these pills were the law. Being a craft store one can argue precedence to break the law and not even be closely held. On and on it goes.

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!.  The majority report defined "closely held" as five owners holding at least 51 percent of the stock.

2 . There was no law involved.  It was an HHS regulation that required the 20 specific drugs.  SCOTUS stated that a law might have been ruled different from a regulation.

3. Old Squirelly Dawg speaking from ignorance and thru his do rag, again and again and again.

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