Win or lose I'll be glad!

Kraven posted:
SirWasabi posted:
gbrk posted:
SirWasabi posted:

No, Alabama Republicans believe whatever the Republicans running for office tell them to believe. You, yourself, make that painfully obvious. You've completely ignored any evidence provided. Republicans, especially in Alabama, have a habit of 'holding their nose' and voting Republican, regardless of the cost to voters, as a whole.

EVIDENCE?  WHAT EVIDENCE?  Please cite the evidence because speaking from the standpoint of what could be admitted into court I have yet to see any credible evidence.  

9+ women with similar stories, Who never met before the stories broke.

Handwriting expert on Moore's signature.

Moore's lie of 'I don't know these women', which he later walked back.

The people of the town in which the incidents took place.

The mall records where Moore was known to harass young girls.

 

I bet you've purchased many a bridge in your narcissistic life

Handwriting expert used photocopy -- not usable in court.

No mall records of such. Former manager says didn't happen. Policewoman admitted she lied.

I've not seen where the policewoman lied, but she certainly had no reason to like Moore, so her testimony could be suspect.

While there are no mall records on banning anyone, the mall manager goes to the Y with Roy and he and his wife said they were casual friends and planned to vote for him.

Someone should have delved more deeply into the various stores where former employees said Moore was banned. That sound's more logical than the entire mall banning an ADA. 

I like Ann Coulter's synopsis:

"It's hard to disprove accusations from 40 years ago -- that's why we have statutes of limitations -- but, despite that, there are a surprising number of problems with the allegations against Moore.


One accuser has been called a liar by her own stepson, who says he's voting for Moore. Another neglected to mention that Moore sent her brother to prison.

In defense of one of Moore's accusers, Gloria Allred produced a yearbook allegedly signed by Moore, apparently in two different inks and giving his title as "D.A." He was not the district attorney and didn't sign his name that way. Allred refuses to produce the yearbook for handwriting analysis or to deny that it's a forgery.

Contrary to what you have heard one million times a day on TV, there aren't "multiple accusers." There are two, and that's including the one with the fishy yearbook inscription whose stepson says she's lying.

The other "accusers" claim he dated them when they were 16 to 19 years old and Moore was in his early 30s -- or younger than Jerry Seinfeld was (39) when he dated 17-year-old Shoshanna Lonstein.

That would also make Moore 15 years younger than Bill Clinton when he had a 22-year-old intern performing oral sex on him in the Oval Office. Moore's date "accusers" say he did nothing more than kiss them."
Old American posted:

In your case IDK must mean I don't know because it's evident you don't.

Just remember some think you might be stupid, be careful what you say and you might remove all doubt.

You know I was being sarcastic right?

Old American posted:

Please don't classify an entire group just because some are bad. There are bad apples in any group whether it be CoC, atheists, Baptist, Methodist, democrats, republicans or any group.  No one or no group is perfect.

In this case I have seen nothing to change my mind.

"How about the coc attracts the already mean and nasty with their egotism running amok".

Bestworking posted:
Old American posted:

Please don't classify an entire group just because some are bad. There are bad apples in any group whether it be CoC, atheists, Baptist, Methodist, democrats, republicans or any group.  No one or no group is perfect.

In this case I have seen nothing to change my mind.

"How about the coc attracts the already mean and nasty with their egotism running amok".

ironic

As I said I'm glad the election is over and although the candidate I was against won I will fully support Doug Jones as our Senator now and hope he keeps his promise to work with both Republicans and Democrats rather than 100% voting with the Democrats just to oppose Donald Trump.  

I do believe that the accusations is what sunk the Roy Moore campaign and ruined his chances although the National media will be recording this as a vote against Donald Trump, they just can't help themselves.  As I indicated from the first post .... I AM glad it's over.  

I see where Roy Moore isn't conceding the election.   I voted for Moore but I don't think it's too classy of a move, not to admit to your defeat, when it's evident that you have lost.   Most likely he lost due to the accusations that came out but then, like Hillary, a lot of the blame can go to the candidate and the way he campaigned or didn't campaign.  Maybe he just assumed that Jones would be like Luther Strange and not stand a chance but if so that was a poor assumption.  I also don't think Moore could have strengthened his position had he taken a polygraph and his denials were not that persuasive and left a lot open to speculation.  

I think it's fairly evident, from the vote count, that had those who wrote in their votes made the difference and had they voted for Moore or the party that Moore would have won but lose he did.

Also, being a professing, open and bold Christian, one of the best testimonies and witnesses we can give is by example rather than word.  The testimony that Roy Moore is giving with his denial to concede and the way he is approaching his loss is not (my own opinion mind you) the best example of being a Christian in the face of defeat or a loss.

 Also as has been stated the term for this special election is not the full 6 years so in another 2 years the Republicans will have a chance to take back the seat with a better, stronger, candidate.  Now, I hope Roy Moore decides to concede and offer congratulations to Doug Jones as the winner and as an Alabama citizen get behind our new Senator but somehow I don't feel that is going to be in Roy Moore.  I believe that Roy Moore feels that the system let him down and that he was unfairly treated what with the accusations.  IF THOSE ACCUSATIONS, though, are false then I can surely understand Roy Moore's anger and angst what with the media and state of this Senatorial Election.  It may even set a new precedent for elections to come now that it's been proven a winning tactic.  If, Roy Moore, is guilty of what was accused then he deserves the defeat he suffered but If he is innocent of the charges or they were false or fraudulent then the offense suffered by Roy Moore is much greater than that which would be suffered by the women had the charges been true.  Frankly we may never know though, either way.   My feeling is now that Moore lost the women, like the charges, will go away.

There will be no 'charges'. The statute of limitations has run out for prosecuting Moore. The people of Alabama voted for their choice. As you Republicans like to say 'Your candidate lost, Deal with it.' After 8 years of Republican obstructionists, it's funny to see Republicans whine about it.

Old American posted:

Bestworking is good at classifying a whole group so I guess all atheists are like her?

Sorry you're so butt hurt at the truth about the coc. You have all always lumped all atheists into one group, so what's good for the goose and all that. The demoslops love to dish it out, but cry like the ******* they are when they get it back.

You have no idea what truth is and you certainly don't have the ability to know what I lump together. You can't stand to be wrong and in this you are.

For your info I am not a democrat. This is about you lumping a religious group as all being bad. Be careful what you sow because that is what you will reap.

Enough said.

Old American posted:

You have no idea what truth is and you certainly don't have the ability to know what I lump together. You can't stand to be wrong and in this you are.

For your info I am not a democrat. This is about you lumping a religious group as all being bad. Be careful what you sow because that is what you will reap.

Enough said.

No, not "enough said" just because you deem it so. Clean up your nasty old church if the truth stings you so bad. I can "stand to be wrong" if I am wrong. However, in this case I'm not wrong. Don't try to order me around, I don't belong to your coc cult and I don't grovel to you and the other coc trash that posts here.

Kraven posted:
As I predicted with the invasion of Alabama by G. Soros,
his money and thugs. Roy could reverse the purchased
outcome with a "Go Fund Me" account of his own....  

Lies and out of state money. But as I said, we survived 8 years of obama, and after a good "craw full" of the demoslop things will get back to normal.

The inherent pathetic trait of far left worshippers would be the
proof of ignorance to see the future after their, I feel good vote..
But too embarrassed to admit Mobumer is a complete failure.
 
Sucking up to Saul Alinsky is a sure sign of anti America life.
Which is the dream of the liberals this country has to deal with..
Old American posted:

Sorry you have so many problems in the only life you will ever have, according to your thinking. Guess it never occurred to you that you may be the problem and not others? How pathetic.

Are you rambling at me old man? If you are I think it's clear I have a handle on it and I have no problems to speak of. No more than average, but not being a demoslop like you, I can handle things without melting into a puddle. I can even manage to put a optimistic spin on the demoslop that got elected. For some reason you have decided to come after me with stupid attacks. COC cult maybe? Get over yourself, it's a different age and women don't have to grovel and "mind" old men. Go try that crap on your old lady.

Old American posted:

Best you can rattle on with your nonsense and as always you are wrong.

For anything else you might have to say, my answer will be.

You are wrong as usual, so just refer back to this answer for anything else you want to say.

I have wasted enough time with you!

Well, if you didn't want it, you shouldn't have started it.

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