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Horrors! A W I T C H!!!!

It has not been very long since the religious right issued multiple warnings about the insidious influence of the Harry Potter books and movies. The issue was the alleged promotion of WITCHCRAFT and the symbology of WITCHCRAFT!!

Now we have a political candidate who confesses to have been involved in--you guessed it--WITCHCRAFT!!!!

Is it not time for the religious right to sally forth and demand a full investigation of the witching career of Ms. O'Donnell? After all, witchcraft is no joking matter. I would remind the religious right that the Old Testament made witchcraft a capital crime. Exodus 22:18: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

Should good, godly, Christian Republicans, Tea Partiers, or conservatives of any stripe simply shrug off Ms. O'Donnell's nervous,giggly explanation of that time when she "dabbled in witchcraft?" How much and what kind of witchly activity is involved in "dabbling" in this Satanic black art?

In her "explanation" on the Bill Maher program, O'Donnell said something about a date with a boy which involved blood and an altar! That kind of thing should not be allowed to get by without some very serious scrutiny. Has O'Donnell cut off social intercourse with those who led her into witchcraft, however dabbly the experience might have been? Or do they remain within her coven circle of acquaintances, ready, should opportunity knock, to use her as a powerful political ally for the forces of sorcery??!!

Or should we just back off and acknowledge that Ms. O'Donnell is entitled to freely practice witchcraft to whatever extent she chooses or may have chosen, since witchcraft is, after all, a religion, and the Constitution stipulates that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article VI, paragraph 3)? N-a-a-ah! The religious right would be loathe to accept that explanation, since it clutters up their theocratic comfort zone. These are, after all, the folks who never tire of insisting that this is a 'Christian nation'.
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Originally posted by beternU:
Horrors! A W I T C H!!!!

It has not been very long since the religious right issued multiple warnings about the insidious influence of the Harry Potter books and movies. The issue was the alleged promotion of WITCHCRAFT and the symbology of WITCHCRAFT!!

Now we have a political candidate who confesses to have been involved in--you guessed it--WITCHCRAFT!!!!

Is it not time for the religious right to sally forth and demand a full investigation of the witching career of Ms. O'Donnell? After all, witchcraft is no joking matter. I would remind the religious right that the Old Testament made witchcraft a capital crime. Exodus 22:18: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

Should good, godly, Christian Republicans, Tea Partiers, or conservatives of any stripe simply shrug off Ms. O'Donnell's nervous,giggly explanation of that time when she "dabbled in witchcraft?" How much and what kind of witchly activity is involved in "dabbling" in this Satanic black art?

In her "explanation" on the Bill Maher program, O'Donnell said something about a date with a boy which involved blood and an altar! That kind of thing should not be allowed to get by without some very serious scrutiny. Has O'Donnell cut off social intercourse with those who led her into witchcraft, however dabbly the experience might have been? Or do they remain within her coven circle of acquaintances, ready, should opportunity knock, to use her as a powerful political ally for the forces of sorcery??!!

Or should we just back off and acknowledge that Ms. O'Donnell is entitled to freely practice witchcraft to whatever extent she chooses or may have chosen, since witchcraft is, after all, a religion, and the Constitution stipulates that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article VI, paragraph 3)? N-a-a-ah! The religious right would be loathe to accept that explanation, since it clutters up their theocratic comfort zone. These are, after all, the folks who never tire of insisting that this is a 'Christian nation'.


So.... I guess your youth is spotless... good for you... now run along and get your little gold star for that... Wink
Apparently, she dated a member of a coven of a branch of satanist type witches, not the Wiccans when a teenager.

The present occupant of the WH, during his same years, spent his time drunk, toking and sniffing lines. He brought his MJ and coke from an old commie/pusher. As he still drinks and smokes, with an obvious chemical dependent personality, I'm certain you are more concerned about that, more than a flirtation with stupid heavy metal types.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by elinterventor01:

The present occupant of the WH, during his same years, spent his time drunk, toking and sniffing lines. He brought his MJ and coke from an old commie/pusher. As he still drinks and smokes, with an obvious chemical dependent personality, I'm certain you are more concerned about that, more than a flirtation with stupid heavy metal types./QUOTE]


Sounds a lot like the life I lived back in the day. I no longer smoke cigarettes tho.
Guess he is just the average American with a "little guy makes good" story.
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Originally posted by seeweed:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by elinterventor01:

The present occupant of the WH, during his same years, spent his time drunk, toking and sniffing lines. He brought his MJ and coke from an old commie/pusher. As he still drinks and smokes, with an obvious chemical dependent personality, I'm certain you are more concerned about that, more than a flirtation with stupid heavy metal types./QUOTE]


Sounds a lot like the life I lived back in the day. I no longer smoke cigarettes tho.
Guess he is just the average American with a "little guy makes good" story.


That's what you think?
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Originally posted by seeweed:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by elinterventor01:

The present occupant of the WH, during his same years, spent his time drunk, toking and sniffing lines. He brought his MJ and coke from an old commie/pusher. As he still drinks and smokes, with an obvious chemical dependent personality, I'm certain you are more concerned about that, more than a flirtation with stupid heavy metal types./QUOTE]


Sounds a lot like the life I lived back in the day. I no longer smoke cigarettes tho.
Guess he is just the average American with a "little guy makes good" story.


Not even close on that one seeweed.
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Originally posted by beternU:
Horrors! A W I T C H!!!!

It has not been very long since the religious right issued multiple warnings about the insidious influence of the Harry Potter books and movies. The issue was the alleged promotion of WITCHCRAFT and the symbology of WITCHCRAFT!!

Now we have a political candidate who confesses to have been involved in--you guessed it--WITCHCRAFT!!!!

Is it not time for the religious right to sally forth and demand a full investigation of the witching career of Ms. O'Donnell? After all, witchcraft is no joking matter. I would remind the religious right that the Old Testament made witchcraft a capital crime. Exodus 22:18: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

Should good, godly, Christian Republicans, Tea Partiers, or conservatives of any stripe simply shrug off Ms. O'Donnell's nervous,giggly explanation of that time when she "dabbled in witchcraft?" How much and what kind of witchly activity is involved in "dabbling" in this Satanic black art?

In her "explanation" on the Bill Maher program, O'Donnell said something about a date with a boy which involved blood and an altar! That kind of thing should not be allowed to get by without some very serious scrutiny. Has O'Donnell cut off social intercourse with those who led her into witchcraft, however dabbly the experience might have been? Or do they remain within her coven circle of acquaintances, ready, should opportunity knock, to use her as a powerful political ally for the forces of sorcery??!!

Or should we just back off and acknowledge that Ms. O'Donnell is entitled to freely practice witchcraft to whatever extent she chooses or may have chosen, since witchcraft is, after all, a religion, and the Constitution stipulates that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article VI, paragraph 3)? N-a-a-ah! The religious right would be loathe to accept that explanation, since it clutters up their theocratic comfort zone. These are, after all, the folks who never tire of insisting that this is a 'Christian nation'.


What's wrong with being a Christian nation, beter?!? You CLAIM to be a Christian, so you should have no problem with it. It's funny how your religion and politics mix about as well drinking and driving, oil and water, "Dutch ovens" and honeymoons, etc. At least show some consistency. "But, but, but, but. . . Separation of church and state!!!" Libs asked for it and look what it's gotten us. The farther the state gets from religion, the worse this country is becoming. Ask George or Thomas what they think. I'm sure you'll disagree. George Washington said, "It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible."
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Originally posted by rocky:
The new teabagger darling, Christine O'Donnell warts and all. I am still working on the photoshop version: JUST IN TIME FOR HALLOWEEN. THANK YOU TEABAGGERS!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nECxQUi_pr0


She "dabbled in it" when she was a TEENAGER! Who among you didn't do something stupid when you were a teenager? Your POTUS "snorted some blow" when he was younger and that's just fine and dandy. Your last liberal to hold the office received phallacio from someone other than his wife IN THE OVAL OFFICE and you're all right with that, too! Such double standards!
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Originally posted by JuanHunt:
Lets be clear. As long as we agree that practicing witchcraft is OK, then Oval Orifice fluid exchanges, and casual cocaine use are also OK??? Just want to make sure that I keep my Sin Scoreboard accurate.


If you're responding to me, you obviously don't get my point. O'Donnell tried it, didn't like it and STOPPED IT, yet dims jump all over her and are blind to members of their own party doing anything wrong. That's my point. Don't try to make it something it's not.
Had the woman sacrificed a virgin to Satan as a teen, yes, that has repercussions.

She did not.

I have read a lot on witchcraft because I find it interesting. Does that make me a witch?

As for Newt, I would not vote for him and yes, he is guilty of adultery as well.

Obama's cocaine use is more detrimental as that affects his brain directly. His teenage years may have lead to problems of mental development.

I don't care for any one who uses illegal drugs, and he had no reason too. His g=parents gave him everything they could. Unless you want to say, 'he played the part of the spoiled little rich boy', I'm not buying it.
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Originally posted by JuanHunt:
I just want to tune my moral equivalence meter.

So the fact that she was a teen absolves her of repercussions as an adult??? Excellent!

Still need some clarification on adultery, as Newt will be on the ticket in 2012, and he has multiple issues with that behavior, as an adult.


Logic is lost. My point has been and still is this; if you're going to hold one person accountable for sins of the past, you must hold everyone accountable. Don't pick and choose because they do/n't belong to the same political party as you. Plus, she was open about it. She didn't try to hide it. Nobama was open about his cocaine use as well. Past drug use shouldn't be a factor. Doing stupid stuff while in office and LYING ABOUT IT should be. It's called integrity. O'Donnell obviously has integrity. Once again, accountability is for everyone, not just your "enemies."
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Originally posted by Tomme73:
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Originally posted by beternU:


What's wrong with being a Christian nation, beter?!? You CLAIM to be a Christian, so you should have no problem with it. It's funny how your religion and politics mix about as well drinking and driving, oil and water, "Dutch ovens" and honeymoons, etc. At least show some consistency. "But, but, but, but. . . Separation of church and state!!!" Libs asked for it and look what it's gotten us. The farther the state gets from religion, the worse this country is becoming. Ask George or Thomas what they think. I'm sure you'll disagree. George Washington said, "It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible."


In order to understand what is "wrong with being a Christian nation" you have to think through the consequences which is a little more than some bumper sticker mentality.
To become a "Christian" nation, you must have a leader who interprets the Bible for you and lays down the "law" as "God speaks to him", just as it was in the days of the Judges in Israel.
Seeing as how the current crop of TV or at least well known preachers are either crazy or money grubbers, then who should lead ? There would have to be a national religion (good bye to the Constitution) and just what would that be ?
NO, it has been already tried in Europe during the 1500s , and it cost the lives of thousands.
This Calvinistic approach to government should never again try to intercede into government.
We don't need, Mullah's or any Christian equivalent to them. Our country was set up to be a secular democracy, governed by law, and we would be well to keep it such.
A nation predominantly of Christians, great1! - a Christian nation - bad.
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Originally posted by Tomme73:
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Originally posted by beternU:
Horrors! A W I T C H!!!!

It has not been very long since the religious right issued multiple warnings about the insidious influence of the Harry Potter books and movies. The issue was the alleged promotion of WITCHCRAFT and the symbology of WITCHCRAFT!!

Now we have a political candidate who confesses to have been involved in--you guessed it--WITCHCRAFT!!!!

Is it not time for the religious right to sally forth and demand a full investigation of the witching career of Ms. O'Donnell? After all, witchcraft is no joking matter. I would remind the religious right that the Old Testament made witchcraft a capital crime. Exodus 22:18: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

Should good, godly, Christian Republicans, Tea Partiers, or conservatives of any stripe simply shrug off Ms. O'Donnell's nervous,giggly explanation of that time when she "dabbled in witchcraft?" How much and what kind of witchly activity is involved in "dabbling" in this Satanic black art?

In her "explanation" on the Bill Maher program, O'Donnell said something about a date with a boy which involved blood and an altar! That kind of thing should not be allowed to get by without some very serious scrutiny. Has O'Donnell cut off social intercourse with those who led her into witchcraft, however dabbly the experience might have been? Or do they remain within her coven circle of acquaintances, ready, should opportunity knock, to use her as a powerful political ally for the forces of sorcery??!!

Or should we just back off and acknowledge that Ms. O'Donnell is entitled to freely practice witchcraft to whatever extent she chooses or may have chosen, since witchcraft is, after all, a religion, and the Constitution stipulates that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article VI, paragraph 3)? N-a-a-ah! The religious right would be loathe to accept that explanation, since it clutters up their theocratic comfort zone. These are, after all, the folks who never tire of insisting that this is a 'Christian nation'.


What's wrong with being a Christian nation, beter?!? You CLAIM to be a Christian, so you should have no problem with it. It's funny how your religion and politics mix about as well drinking and driving, oil and water, "Dutch ovens" and honeymoons, etc. At least show some consistency. "But, but, but, but. . . Separation of church and state!!!" Libs asked for it and look what it's gotten us. The farther the state gets from religion, the worse this country is becoming. Ask George or Thomas what they think. I'm sure you'll disagree. George Washington said, "It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible."


"Christian nation," as that term is all too often used, carries with it a lot of theocratic baggage that makes me, as a Christian, very uncomfortable. Many latter-day theocrats, in defiance of the First Amendment, continue to insist that as a "Christian nation," we should restore school prayer as it formerly existed in the public schools. What they want is for public school authorities (which are an arm of GOVERNMENT) to be able to tell public school students when to pray, to whom to pray, and what to pray for or about. That is the way things were years ago in much of this country and that is the kind of thing that the Supreme Court properly declared unconstitutional.

As a Christian, I, like Jesus, do not believe in forcing my religious views on anyone. I do not believe, for instance, that in a public school classroom where there are little Jewish children, little atheist children and, yes, even little Muslim children, those non-Christian children should be subjected to a ritual where a government-prescribed prayer is offered, "in Jesus' name." That kind of thing was commonplace in the public schools I attended and that kind of thing is now prohibited, and rightly so.

You say, "The farther the state gets from religion, the worse this country is becoming." That statement is all that it takes for me to conclude that you would be very comforatble with a theocratic governmental regime with Christianity as the preferred state-endorsed religion.

Well, Tomme, you stick with your right-wing distortions of the Constitution. I will stick with Jesus and the Constitution.

But if I decide to follow your advice and "[a]sk George or Thomas what they think," perhaps I could call on Ms. O'Donnell for necromancy services of the kind performed by that Biblical witch--the witch of Endor--who assisted King Saul in his inquiries to the deceased (I Samuel 28:7-25).
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Elections aren't usually about electing the best person for the job; more often they are about electing the lesser of evils. When one compares the transgressions of a teenage O'Donnell versus the work history of Chris Coons, she is the lesser of evils.

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Coons inherited a surplus. Celebrating victory on election night in 2004, he said his "top priority would be to continue balancing the budget without increasing property taxes," according to an account in the local News Journal. Yet in 2006, he pushed through a 5 percent increase in property taxes. In 2007, he raised property taxes 17.5 percent. In 2009, he raised them another 25 percent.

Coons wanted to raise other taxes, too. He proposed a hotel tax, a tax on paramedic services, even a tax on people who call 911 from cell phones.

Coons says the increases were necessary because New Castle County, despite its surplus, was saddled with extravagant spending obligations made by his predecessor. "Chris made really tough decisions, and after bringing folks together was able to say that we have to have some level of shared sacrifice if we want to get the county back on track," says Coons spokesman Daniel McElhatton. "He was able to restore New Castle County to fiscal responsibility."

Well, not exactly. In January 2009, Coons warned the county might be headed for bankruptcy.


Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer....9.html#ixzz10BO3XLzo


Oh, and if one really cares about youthful indiscretions, O'Donnell's opponent should have to 'splain himself for his article in his college newspaper entitled “Chris Coons: The Making of a Bearded Marxist.”.
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Originally posted by rocky:
These foolish teabaggers are actually DEFENDING this nutjob!!!!!
CHRISTINE O'DONNELL: YES WICCAN


A Wiccan is a person who uses only white magic.
A 'witch' uses black magic.

If you are going to use the terms, use them correctly.

Wicca teaches an amended version of the Christian "golden rule." The Wiccan Rede states, " 'An it harm none, do what you will." Wiccans are afraid of karmic repercussions if they do something that could be viewed as even remotely harmful. They subscribe to a belief in a "threefold law," where everything you do, positive or negative, will come back to you times three. Witches do not concern themselves with such drivel. A true Witch understands that she is responsible for her own life and her own actions. She is willing to accept the consequences for anything she does and does not have to worry that her actions may get her in trouble on some karmic level.
But she also thinks homosexuals are "mentally defective", and that masturbating should be against the law.

What blows my mind is the way far right-wingers constantly harp on "nanny states", and say they want smaller government. They have no problem with passing laws that THEY want. The thing is, the laws they want passed are laws having to do with personal choice.

So if we pass a common sense law prohibiting texting while driving, we are a nanny state. But if we outlaw homosexuality like Montana, that's OK?

Liberals believe that if what you do endangers the lives of others, it should be against the law. Conservatives don't care how many people you kill while behind the wheel, as long as what you do in the privacy of your own bedroom is in accordance with their beliefs.
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Originally posted by O No!:
But she also thinks homosexuals are "mentally defective", and that masturbating should be against the law.

What blows my mind is the way far right-wingers constantly harp on "nanny states", and say they want smaller government. They have no problem with passing laws that THEY want. The thing is, the laws they want passed are laws having to do with personal choice.

So if we pass a common sense law prohibiting texting while driving, we are a nanny state. But if we outlaw homosexuality like Montana, that's OK?

Liberals believe that if what you do endangers the lives of others, it should be against the law. Conservatives don't care how many people you kill while behind the wheel, as long as what you do in the privacy of your own bedroom is in accordance with their beliefs.


I tend to think homosexuals and liberals are mentally defective.
ferrel,
LOL.

However, I disagree with the homosexual part. Science and genetic research is showing a genetic cause for homosexuality.

Now as for the blanket, 'conservatives don't care how many people you kill'; conservatives are against abortion, murder, suicide, genocide and insanity pleas. My Opinion Only of course.

Liberals are for abortion, euthanasia; government control of banks, car companies, wall street, main street, healthcare, school lunches, weak military and apologizing for existing. My Opinion Only of course.

Big Grin
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Originally posted by b50m:
She was not 'practicing' witchcraft. She dated a guy who was playing with Satanism. Granted, not the best thing but they were teens.

What's worse? Adultery and cocaine use seems worse to me.

But I'm not counting sins.


Ms. O'Donnell herself said that she "dabbled in witchcraft." Why do you wish to dispute her? That is not what someone said about her; it is what she said about herself. Is there no end to what you right-wing apologists will do to try to sanitize away the infection in your ranks?
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Originally posted by beternU:
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Originally posted by b50m:
She was not 'practicing' witchcraft. She dated a guy who was playing with Satanism. Granted, not the best thing but they were teens.

What's worse? Adultery and cocaine use seems worse to me.

But I'm not counting sins.


Ms. O'Donnell herself said that she "dabbled in witchcraft." Why do you wish to dispute her? That is not what someone said about her; it is what she said about herself. Is there no end to what you right-wing apologists will do to try to sanitize away the infection in your ranks?


So are you saying that anyone the "dabbled in witchcraft" as a teenager is unfit for office? If so, what other "dabblings" should make you unfit for office? I'm sure you had "dabblings" when you were a teenager that you would prefer not be named, I know I have. I'm not looking for the "perfect" candidates for office. I'm looking for candidates that will vote for smaller government, less spending, and abiding by the Constitution.
The core issue is yet to be addressed by the O'Donnellite apologists, namely:

"Has O'Donnell cut off social intercourse with those who led her into witchcraft, however dabbly the experience might have been? Or do they remain within her coven circle of acquaintances, ready, should opportunity knock, to use her as a powerful political ally for the forces of sorcery??!!"

One can not be too careful in scrutinizing those who seek high public offices of great reasponsibility! O'Donnell has acknowledged that she "dabbled in witchcraft," but she has never publicly renounced witchcraft. Does she have something to hide?
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Originally posted by Tomme73:
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Originally posted by JuanHunt:
I just want to tune my moral equivalence meter.

So the fact that she was a teen absolves her of repercussions as an adult??? Excellent!

Still need some clarification on adultery, as Newt will be on the ticket in 2012, and he has multiple issues with that behavior, as an adult.


Logic is lost. My point has been and still is this; if you're going to hold one person accountable for sins of the past, you must hold everyone accountable. Don't pick and choose because they do/n't belong to the same political party as you. Plus, she was open about it. She didn't try to hide it. Nobama was open about his cocaine use as well. Past drug use shouldn't be a factor. Doing stupid stuff while in office and LYING ABOUT IT should be. It's called integrity. O'Donnell obviously has integrity. Once again, accountability is for everyone, not just your "enemies."


You say she "was open about it." Piffle. It did not come out until after the primary election and then only because Bill Maher dug it up from his archives and posted it. At that point, she had no choice but to acknowledge her witchly past; they had it on tape in her own words.
As she said, if she was a witch, she would put a spell on Karl Rove to back her.

How about that Chris Coons:
“Chris Coons: The Making of a Bearded Marxist.”. And he was in COLLEGE! Supposedly a more mature person than a teenager.

Of course, liberals love Marx, we have a president that does.
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Said Coons:

"I spent the spring of my junior year in Africa on the St. Lawrence Kenya Study Program. Going to Kenya was one of the few real decisions I have made; my friends, family, and professors all advised against it, but I went anyway. My friends now joke that something about Kenya, maybe the strange diet, or the tropical sun, changed my personality; Africa to them seems a catalytic converter that takes in clean-shaven, clear-thinking Americans and sends back bearded Marxists.

The point that others ignore is that I was ready to change. Experiences at Amherst my first two years made me skeptical and uncomfortable with Republicanism, enough so that I wanted to see the Third World for myself to get some perspective on my beliefs."

Obviously, a sexually frustrated witch is more qualified to be in Congress. But, it seems she already has her first campaign finance problem, which has been a topic in DE for a few months but no one bothered to file a complaint until she won. Seems she has been paying her personal bills including rent/mortgage from campaign funds.

http://www.delawaretomorrow.co...-odonnell-money-pit/

The federal campaign finance laws and regulations are quite specific about certain things, including the prohibition that campaign funds may not be used for a candidate’s “personal use.” 2 U.S.C. §439a(b). “Personal use” is defined to include expenditures for (i) household food items and supplies, (ii) clothing, other than items of de minimus value such as campaign t-shirts, and (iii) mortgage, rent, and utility payments for the personal residence of the candidate. 11 CFR 113.1.
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