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Trump will do NOTHING for you unless you;re a business owner making at least a quarter million a year....if you have a pre-existing condition he'll most likely give the power back to insurance companies to deny you coverage....and the planet? well forget about that after he fracks the hell out of it for every penny he can squeeze......and seriously, what will you middle class people gain? not a **** thing except the enjoyment of watching the economy tank while the rich do great as always......you'll long for the day of Obama's record stock markets - thank God I got mine  

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woz75 posted:

Trump will do NOTHING for you unless you;re a business owner making at least a quarter million a year....if you have a pre-existing condition he'll most likely give the power back to insurance companies to deny you coverage....and the planet? well forget about that after he fracks the hell out of it for every penny he can squeeze......and seriously, what will you middle class people gain? not a **** thing except the enjoyment of watching the economy tank while the rich do great as always......you'll long for the day of Obama's record stock markets - thank God I got mine  

The electoral college is the just and balanced system. All the
cry babies would need is california and four other states of
illegal ragheads, *******s and wet pants.
Is that your fair play.? 

 

You're too stupid to realize that happened in the last 8 years.
But then you don't really care, being a government boob baby.

 

Crash.Override posted:

jack is so ignorant.. he has no clue.. the last time we had a republican white house, congress, and senate was 1928... i wonder what happened that time?

great depression 1929-1939.

The Depression was still ongoing when the Japanese navy made their uninvited visit to Pearl.  Capitalism involves boom and bust, or more accurately creative destruction.  Every so often, the old must be set aside to make room for the new.  The left never understood this, preferring a steady state economy and culture – nothing stays steady, it either advances or decays.  The recession of 1920 was met by the Harding/Coolidge administrations with a traditional cut in taxes and reduction in government spending. Secretary of the Treasury Hoover desired more government interference, but was ignored, thankfully, -- resulting in a great economic boom.

At the advent of the recession of 1928/1929, President Hoover got congress to legislate government intervention on a massive scale – resulting in recession morphing into a depression.  FDR and Democrat congress instituted even more massive government action – stretching out the depression to an unprecedented length.  (OK, there was one about 150 AD involving the Romans fiddling with their coinage.)  Obama continued the Democrat tradition. Resulting in doubling in the national debt, the worst recovery in over 100 years and more businesses failing than founded.

jtdavis posted:

Did we have a republican president, senate and house of representatives in 2007 and 2008? Did we have a great recession shortly after that?

Uh, Dems took over control of both houses of Congress in the 2006 election. Anyway, it probably was too late to avert the 2008 crash even if Dems would have changed their positions on the reasons for the crash that even stoopid Bush was warning about.

http://russp.us/subprime.htm

 

 

The State of the Nation under Obama's leadership and the result of Government giving people who won't work everything is playing out before our eyes in the massive protest to Trumps elections you see in the major cities.  Everyone is afraid that Trump and the Republicans are going to take away all their freebies and make them get a job in order to survive.  The Great Depression would be nothing compared to where we would be if more and more social programs and freebies are given out to those who won't work because the end result is and would be riots and civil unrest and a war among our own people.  You can't continue to take from those who work and give it to those who won't and expect society to continue to exist especially when you, through lopsided trade deals take more and more blue collar jobs from people who are paying taxes.  

The system, at one point, ceases to be able to support itself and you have Greece on Steroids which is where we are and were headed.  Whether or not Trump and the Republicans and straighten things out remains to be seen because frankly they have never had the chance in our modern times.  Maybe, in part, because many were afraid they might succeed.  

As for Trump winning and the Republicans taking over all branches of Government the Democrats have ONLY themselves to thank for that happening.  They have been leaving their former base of supporters in the cold in that they have abandoned the blue collar workers and union workers in place supporting free trade and padding their own pockets but the main reason for Republicans gaining power and influence is, in my own opinion, solely related to OBAMACARE or Democratic imposed healthcare bill that they forced upon everyone with their 59 votes back in the first term of Obama.  As more and more of that catastrophe was revealed and discovered (as Nancy Pelosi said .. we have to pass it in order to see what's in it) then people began to vote the Democrats out.   My belief is that the Health care bill that democrats forced upon everyone but themselves, whom they exempted, has led to Trump being elected and Republicans holding everything and with the chance to affect the Supreme Court as well.  

My belief is this is the price that the Democrats paid for Obamacare and I believe it was justly deserved.  

jtdavis posted:

Uh, Dems took over control of both houses of Congress in the 2006 election.

I stand corrected.  Were the republicans in the majority up to the 2006 elections?

The Republicans had the House up to 2007 and split control of the Senate pre-2007 with Dems owning the majority before 2003 except for a few months in 2001 when Jeffords changed affiliation. Even when Republicans had the majority, they never had 60 sure votes to stop the housing crash.

Democrats Were Wrong on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

The White House called for tighter regulation 17 times.

Seventeen. That's how many times, according to this White House statement (hat tip Gateway Pundit), that the Bush administration has called for tighter regulation of the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congress has cooperated only once. In spring 2007, as House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank likes to point out, the House did pass a bill in response. The Senate did not act until 2008; Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd spent most of 2007 camped out in Iowa running for president. The legislation passed by Congress in 2008 enabled Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to put Fannie and Freddie into federal conservatorship this summer when they failed. But it didn't prevent them from spewing a huge amount of toxic waste, in the form of subprime and Alt-A mortgages, into our financial institutions from 2004 to 2007. As Stephen Spruiell points out in The Corner on National Review Online, Fannie and Freddie spewed out $1 trillion worth (face value) of subprime mortgages between 2005 and 2007. That's a whole lot of toxic waste. For more detail, consult the items referred to in my previous blogpost on this subject (most of the comments seem to have been disputes about the plot line of the movie It's a Wonderful Life, which I should think could be settled by consulting a reference work).

Much if not all of that could have been prevented by a bill cosponsored by John McCain and supported by all the Republicans and opposed by all the Democrats in the Senate Banking Committee in 2005. That bill, which the Democrats stopped from passing, would have prohibited the GSEs from speculating on the mortgage-based securities they packaged. The GSEs' mission allegedly justifying their quasi-governmental status was to package or securitize such mortgages, but the lion's share of their profits—which determined top executives' bonuses—came from speculation.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/...-mae-and-freddie-mac

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