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Pore ole George Zimmerman:

 

"Zimmerman also briefly admitted to experiencing  a moment of conscience and canceled his plans to participate in a celebrity boxing match calling it “not right” and also probably after he found out he couldn’t show up strapped. George also wears a bulletproof vest when he goes out in public (just like a real policeman!) but now, post-murder acquittal, he finds he can’t have a “normal life” and he is homeless and has PTSD and is probably friendless and it’s just all so very very sad."

 

So just a little bit of justice has come to this swaggering wanabee cop and wife/girl friend-beating throwback.

 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201...and-your-ground-war/

I yam what I yam and that's all I yam--but it is enough!

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So the Contendah has become Judge and Jury and found an innocent man guilty and deems he should be punished  according to what he thinks should have happened. Sounds like a North Korean court and not the USA. I await your sentencing for transgressions that someone feels you need to be punished for. And for the record please state that this is your idea and not the rest of the media and Liberals who want to hang him in public after being found not guilty in a court of U.S. law.

Originally Posted by Contendah:

Pore ole George Zimmerman:

 

"Zimmerman also briefly admitted to experiencing  a moment of conscience and canceled his plans to participate in a celebrity boxing match calling it “not right” and also probably after he found out he couldn’t show up strapped. George also wears a bulletproof vest when he goes out in public (just like a real policeman!) but now, post-murder acquittal, he finds he can’t have a “normal life” and he is homeless and has PTSD and is probably friendless and it’s just all so very very sad."

 

So just a little bit of justice has come to this swaggering wanabee cop and wife/girl friend-beating throwback.

 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201...and-your-ground-war/

I have NEVER accused Zimmerman of  being 'smart'.  But on this occasion, perhaps he DID show some intelligence.

Originally Posted by Bulldog63:

So the Contendah has become Judge and Jury and found an innocent man guilty and deems he should be punished  according to what he thinks should have happened. Sounds like a North Korean court and not the USA. I await your sentencing for transgressions that someone feels you need to be punished for. And for the record please state that this is your idea and not the rest of the media and Liberals who want to hang him in public after being found not guilty in a court of U.S. law.

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Zimmerman was not found to be "innocent."  Our justice system requires an accused to either be found "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt"  or "not guilty". Thus you  have introduced an incorrect terminology for the Zimmerman jury's findings. "Not guilty" and "innocent" are not the same thing. Like it or not, that is the way our justice system is set up.  . Zimmerman could have avoided his present sorry state if he had used sound judgment and refrained from behaving as a swaggering cop wannabee amateur security guard.  It is sweet justice indeed for this woman beater to be in the sorry state in which he now finds himself. Perhaps his fellow gun enthusiasts and cop wannabees should set up a relief fund for the varmint. Meanwhile, let karma rule!

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Zimmerman is the product of the Florida judicial system.

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What was martin a product of? Again, when you make it safely home, and tell your girlfriend you are home and tell her you lost the "cracka", best to stay there and not let her talk you into doubling back to knock out that cracka. A lot of people are even saying martin's "knock out game" went wrong. 

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That's what should've happened, but it didn't, should Martin have been

less aggressive and  inquire about the packing of heat status of George?

This was just road rage in the back yard with everybody losing.

 

This was a high crime area.  Are you telling me after you are followed by someone in a truck and on foot for a period of time, you should stop them and ask if they are carrying a gun?

Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

zimmerman was following a person who lived in that community and trying to act like  'police officer'. if you were a 17 year old kid, what would you have done? be honest and you'll see things in a different light.


Zimmerman was "hired and authorized" by the HOA to do just what he did.  When the community was being harrassed by thugs and criminals and the police response had been inadequate they decided to organize a neighborhood watch.  Zimmerman had every right to to follow Martin, just as he would have had every right to follow anyone under suspicious circumstances. The right to follow someone who is suspcious does not mean that you have the right to have your head bashed in by an anagry youth.  Martin's attitude is as much to blame for this as Zimmerman, but the bleeding heart liberal mentality is that everyone should be left alone to do what they wish and should never be held to any type of rule of order.  When I was raised, a youth would not have reacted in any such fashion to an adult or LEO, nor their representatative, or they would have had their butts kicked. Maybe it has more to do with the way he was raised and his attitude that casued his demise.

 

Originally Posted by teyates:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

zimmerman was following a person who lived in that community and trying to act like  'police officer'. if you were a 17 year old kid, what would you have done? be honest and you'll see things in a different light.


Zimmerman was "hired and authorized" by the HOA to do just what he did.  When the community was being harrassed by thugs and criminals and the police response had been inadequate they decided to organize a neighborhood watch.  Zimmerman had every right to to follow Martin, just as he would have had every right to follow anyone under suspicious circumstances. The right to follow someone who is suspcious does not mean that you have the right to have your head bashed in by an anagry youth.  Martin's attitude is as much to blame for this as Zimmerman, but the bleeding heart liberal mentality is that everyone should be left alone to do what they wish and should never be held to any type of rule of order.  When I was raised, a youth would not have reacted in any such fashion to an adult or LEO, nor their representatative, or they would have had their butts kicked. Maybe it has more to do with the way he was raised and his attitude that casued his demise.

 


Teyates, common sense and liberalism do not mix well.  These are the same type people I saw cheering in a Nashville hotel lobby when it was announced that OJ was "not guilty".

 

When I was 17 and an adult spoke to me, I answered politely and with respect.  I've had what happened to Martin happen to me on several occasions when I was a teen.  Same scenario as I did not know whether or not they had a gun, just as Martin was unaware Zimmerman was armed.

 

Now lets see how Crash answers this:  a thug thinks you've offended him, he grabs you and starts banging your head against the concrete.   What would you do if you had a way to defend yourself.  Be honest and you'll see things in a different light.

Originally Posted by mad American:

Martin was tresspassing, and went back to teach that cracka' a lesson.  And got what was coming to him.  Keep your hands to yourself and stay alive. 

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Trespassing?  NO!  Treyvon Martin was on the property occupied by his father's apartment building and was going back to his father's apartment.

Zimmerman is a joke and a murderer. I'm surprised he is smart enough to wear a bullet proof vest when he goes out. He is not the only vigilante running around lose in this country. Somebody might decide to take justice into their own hands. He will end up in jail eventually. It would be pretty funny if him and OJ were put in the same jail cell!

It was in the news today, Zimmerman still owes two and one-half million dollars to his defense attorneys.  When you can spend over 2 1/2 million dollars for his defense, he will not be guilty.  If Martin was at home, he wouldn't know that he was being followed.  If Martin was banging Zimmerman's head on the concrete the way the lawyer demonstrated or the way these posts describe, one time and Zimmerman would be out.  His head did show minor scratches when the photos were enhanced.  There was no blood on his clothes.  

Refer back to spending multi millions to defend yourself against local and state prosecutors.  You'll be innocent every time.

Originally Posted by teyates:
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

zimmerman was following a person who lived in that community and trying to act like  'police officer'. if you were a 17 year old kid, what would you have done? be honest and you'll see things in a different light.


Zimmerman was "hired and authorized" by the HOA to do just what he did.  When the community was being harrassed by thugs and criminals and the police response had been inadequate they decided to organize a neighborhood watch.  Zimmerman had every right to to follow Martin, just as he would have had every right to follow anyone under suspicious circumstances. The right to follow someone who is suspcious does not mean that you have the right to have your head bashed in by an anagry youth.  Martin's attitude is as much to blame for this as Zimmerman, but the bleeding heart liberal mentality is that everyone should be left alone to do what they wish and should never be held to any type of rule of order.  When I was raised, a youth would not have reacted in any such fashion to an adult or LEO, nor their representatative, or they would have had their butts kicked. Maybe it has more to do with the way he was raised and his attitude that casued his demise.

 

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fyi, 'neighborhood watch' is a community organization and run entirely by volunteers. what's so 'suspicious' about a young man walking home, blocks from his father's house? can you explain that to me? you mean you'd just follow the directions of some stranger that started following you? really? someone starts following you and you'd just think it was 'normal'? really? i thought the 'first rule' of a gun enthusiast was 'situational awareness'? funny how martin isn't granted the same. can you explain why travon martin isn't allowed 'situational awareness'? why isn't martin granted the same 'rights' as zimmerman? what's the difference? doesn't the constitution guarantee the same rights for both?

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

It was in the news today, Zimmerman still owes two and one-half million dollars to his defense attorneys.  When you can spend over 2 1/2 million dollars for his defense, he will not be guilty.  If Martin was at home, he wouldn't know that he was being followed.  If Martin was banging Zimmerman's head on the concrete the way the lawyer demonstrated or the way these posts describe, one time and Zimmerman would be out.  His head did show minor scratches when the photos were enhanced.  There was no blood on his clothes.  

Refer back to spending multi millions to defend yourself against local and state prosecutors.  You'll be innocent every time.

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Really? He paid multi millions to defend himself? Really? If he had all those millions as you are trying to say, why are people donating money to pay his costs?

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Zimmerman could not recoup attorney fees under the law, but he could seek costs related to the trial such as expenditures for expert witnesses and an animated video that defense attorneys showed jurors, the Orlando Sentinel reported. The costs could range between $200,000 and $300,000, the paper said.

 

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 She admitted to the killing and it and STILL cost the taxpayers over 2 million for her defense.

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PHOENIX (AP) — Jodi Arias' legal bills have topped $2 million, a tab being footed by Arizona taxpayers that will only continue to climb with a new penalty phase set for March, officials said Monday.

Arias, 33, was convicted of murder in May, but the jury couldn't reach a verdict on her sentence. Prosecutors are now pursuing a second penalty phase with a new jury in an effort to get the death penalty. Trial is set for March 17.

The former waitress and aspiring photographer has been held in jail in Maricopa County awaiting her fate while her legal bills continue to mount.

As of Monday, the county had paid $2,150,536.42 for her court-appointed attorneys, expert witnesses and other costs associated with her case, Maricopa County spokeswoman Cari Gerchick told The Associated Press.

Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery has refused to provide a tally of how much it has cost to prosecute the case, citing a court order that attorneys not discuss Arias-related matters.

Arias admitted she killed her boyfriend, Travis Alexander, in 2008 at his suburban Phoenix home but claimed it was self-defense. He suffered nearly 30 knife wounds, had his throat slit and was shot in the forehead in what prosecutors argued was premeditated murder carried out in a jealous rage when Alexander wanted to end their affair.

You posted-"Refer back to spending multi millions to defend yourself against local and state prosecutors.  You'll be innocent every time".

 

If you weren't insinuating he paid his way out of the charges, why post that? Now then, he was found innocent. Arias admitted she murdered her boyfriend. He owes his lawyers, taxpayers paid, and are still paying, hers. She will appeal any sentence she gets, taxpayers will pay for that, even though she's guilty.

for those slow of understanding ...

http://www.nydailynews.com/new...es-article-1.1532347

 

George Zimmerman’s $2.5 million debt is entirely in legal fees

Zimmerman's lead attorneys originally offered him their services at no cost but say they notified him of their intent to collect their fees two months ago. The change of heart follows Zimmerman and his family's effort to raise funds for him online.

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Thursday, November 28, 2013, 9:42 PM

 

 
   
 
 
   
 
 
   
   
   
   

The latest mugshot of George Zimmerman, taken on on Nov. 18 when he allegedly threatened his girlfriend with a 12-gauge shotgun. The 30-year-old currently owes $2.5 million in debt to his former defense attorneys.

 

 

 

Freedom doesn't come for free, something George Zimmerman is, incredibly, still learning.

The $2.5 million debt the broke and embattled 30-year-old owes is strictly in legal fees, his defense attorneys in Florida have revealed.

Whatever additional debts he incurred, be it housing, recent bail and cost of living — including firearms and ammunition — were not stated.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new...532347#ixzz2tk1BFKLB

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If you weren't insinuating he paid his way out of the charges, why post that? Now then, he was found innocent. Arias admitted she murdered her boyfriend. He owes his lawyers, taxpayers paid, and are still paying, hers. She will appeal any sentence she gets, taxpayers will pay for that, even though she's guilty

 

I was not insinuating anything, I was flat out telling that he bought his way out of the charges

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

If you weren't insinuating he paid his way out of the charges, why post that? Now then, he was found innocent. Arias admitted she murdered her boyfriend. He owes his lawyers, taxpayers paid, and are still paying, hers. She will appeal any sentence she gets, taxpayers will pay for that, even though she's guilty

 

I was not insinuating anything, I was flat out telling that he bought his way out of the charges

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 How did he buy his way out if he had no money? No, the facts are, no matter the rumors/lies flying around about what happened, the jury heard the evidence and found him innocent. 

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Condie's comment on found not guilty, but not innocent misses a major tenet of America/Brt law.

 

From wiki, "The presumption of innocence, sometimes referred to by the Latin expression Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on he who declares, not on he who denies), is the principle that one is considered innocent until proven guilty..."

 

Zimmerman was innocent before the trial and remains innocent to this day.  I wish juries had the alternative to rule "not guilty by reason of innocence."  For government overreach, that would serve as a major component of a civil action against the government for overcharging people.

 

That said, Zimmerman did not exhibit common sense by leaving his vehicle, knowing police were on the way.  Martin exhibited lack of restraint by attacking Zimmerman.   

That said, Zimmerman did not exhibit common sense by leaving his vehicle, knowing police were on the way.  Martin exhibited lack of restraint by attacking Zimmerman.  

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Reports say he left the truck because the police asked him where he was, and he said he wasn't sure, he'd have to get out of his truck to see the street signs. And how funny that they ignore the fact martin's girlfriend said on the stand that he had made it home safely, but she got real foggy/forgetful when asked why he doubled back to find zimmerman.  Rumor/speculation is she talked him into it. There was "talk" maybe even testimony that she put the idea in martin's head that zimmerman had been following him because zimmerman was gay. 

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