Hi Jan,
You tell us, "However (here comes the somewhat part) I also know that there are many many gay's out there that never had these kinds of experiences as a young person that Bill describes. I agree that being molested could have an impact that could lead to behavior not normal for the victim."
I am not saying that all people who are gay are that way because they were molested. Some yes; some for other reasons. There are many societal causes for homosexuality. My wife's cousin, who used to live with us, was extremely effeminate, if not gay. I will not say he is gay -- although he gave every indication of it. He was not molested. His father deserted his mother and left her to take care of a fairly large family. He grew up with only female family members; no father figure -- and the only father figure he has was one who would desert his family. I have seen this happen to several men who became gay. There is not just one reason why a person will turn to his/her own gender for sexual pleasure.
Then, you tell us, "Just like young girls who are molested by fathers, uncles, preachers, when they are children and they grow up to be strippers and porn stars. Not all of them do, but a lot of them will tell you that they were molested so I am sure it had an influence on their adult lives."
Yes, this can most certainly cause the young girl to turn from gross men and turn to more caring female partners -- or to more destructive behavior such as prostitution or pornography. Yet, as you say, not all. I have a close friend who, as a young girl, was molested by her grandfather and then by her father. She is today a well adjusted wife and mother.
Yet, a girl I dated in the 1960s, while not becoming a lesbian, hooker, or porno star -- did not turn out as well. She has had psychological problems most of her life. This lady was physically raped by a 24 year old cousin when she was only 6 years old. Then, at 10, she was molested by her grandfather. And, at 12, by her own father. Needless to say, this young lady was a mess -- psychologically. Yet, she did not become a lesbian.
However, I am sure that many girls do just as you said -- either in rebellion, or as an escape -- turn to stripping, prostitution, and/or pornography. At time, prostitutes will tend to be lesbian, only using their male customers out of spite, revenge, or anger.
There are many reason why a person will turn to homosexuality or lesbianism. But, being born gay is not one of them.
Next, you tell us, "Then you have others who were just born that way. I have a cousin that I am very close to. I am a few years older than him and I can remember even when he was a very small child (2 or 3) and he did not want to play with the boys he wanted to be with us girls. He says now that he never really identified with young boys but instead felt he was a girl inside from as long as he can remember. He was never molested. No one ever made homosexual advances to him when he was a child. He has never been with a woman ever. He says it makes him sick to think about being with a woman sexually. HE WAS BORN GAY. It happens Bill."
Jan, if you really believe that God would declare homosexuality to be abominable, detestable, not normal, etc. -- and then purposely create people to be that -- then, you and I are worshiping different Gods. For, I know my God would not be that cruel.
The Bible tells us that God will not test us. How big a test would that be -- to create a person in a condition which He hates?
You tell us, "Why should he lie to himself and everyone else? If there is a God why did he make people like my cousin and then tell them they are a sin? Makes no sense to me. I am in no way saying that all homosexuals feel exactly like my cousin does. I know some that are very happy with there gender and wouldn't change being a male (or female) but still are attracted to the same sex."
Jan, very likely, your cousin does believe that God created him that way. But, because he thinks this does not make it true. Common sense tells us that God would NOT create anyone to be abominable in His sight. He is not a cruel God -- and that, most certainly, would be a cruel thing to do to anyone.
Most likely, something happened early in your cousin's life, which he may not remember, which has caused him to feel this way. Many people cannot remember events in their early life. I am blessed that God has given me a very good memory. Starting when I was about three years old; events are still vivid in my memory -- and I am almost 73 now. Yet, when I talk with others -- most folks, even those many years younger than me, have no recall at all of their younger years.
Yet, with friends I have recently reconnected with on Facebook -- I can recall and write in great detail things we did in 1955, 56, 57. I share photos and details from those years -- and, these friends who are much younger than me -- are thrilled that I can tell them in such detail about those years. However, my point is this -- most people do not have this kind of recall or memory. So, if something happened at a young age, especially something traumatic -- very likely their minds have blocked it out, or they just can't remember. This makes a lot more sense than thinking that God has played a cruel joke on them.
Then, you tell me, "Also, the coach you were given a ride by was not a homosexual...he was a child predator. His sickness just leaned towards boys. More than likely he had no interest in adult men. As a young girl I had a few experiences similar to yours with older men. Luckily nothing seriously bad ever happened to me. But like you, it made an impact on me and I remember those men still to this day. Very scary how many child molesters lurk in our communities. Homosexuals, and child molesters are not the same thing."
That could be. However, the way this man tried to get me into the men's room of his hotel sure made me think he was homosexual. Either way -- he definitely should not have been principal at that high school.
You say, "Homosexuals and child molesters are not the same thing."
That is true. A person could just have an attraction to children of either gender. And, I am not sure which is worse -- the homosexual who goes after young boys -- or the predator/pedophile who goes after any child. I do not believe in capital punishment and cannot kill an animal -- not even a rat, which I hate with a passion. Yet, if I caught a man raping a girl or woman -- or molesting a child, boy or girl -- I could do great bodily harm to this person.
Jan, in summary, we do not know all the reasons a person becomes homosexual or lesbian -- and I am sure that person has no idea why he/she became gay. However, the one thing we must rule out is that God did this.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
