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Reply to "Another mass shooting in a 'gun free' zone"

Originally Posted by Capt James T:
Originally Posted by Jankinonya:

So there was no one with a gun on a military base huh? Just like at the Navy yard shooting where the shooter shot the security guards and took their weapons and continued killing. 

 

I really wish, that just once, we could have an honest discussion about gun violence on this forum. I don't expect it to happen though. The topic is too charge with emotion and propaganda. You don't have to respond to me if you don't want to. I won't be back for another round of "we don't have enough guns!!" debate. Lifes too short for useless endeavors. 


Jank,

 

We will have an honest discussion on this forum when those that are so anti gun educate themselves on the facts about the topics we are discussing.  This has nothing to do with mental illness in military members.  If this situation was due to mental illness, how well did the current gun ban on base do at keeping him from bringing the gun on base yesterday?

 

Here are the facts:

 

1. Guns are banned on US Military installations:  the only military members that can carry a weapon on base are the miltary police.  Just like the only people that can carry guns in schools (and other gun free zones) are civilian police.  For those that dont know, the military has a police force that patrol the bases like civilian police patrol towns.  When an accident or crime occurs on base, you wait for the MP's to respond and file the report.

 

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Captain,

 

Don't mean to cut short nor take away from the points you made, but just in case some folks may not have understood,  for clarification posts like Ft. Hood have both DoD civilian LEO and US Army Military Police.

 

Yes, they do patrol like civilian police patrol towns, the DoD more so including manning the entry points to the base.  Military security forces are normally tasked to protect assets and deny access to certain areas on the base which may post signs stating  "Use of Force is Authorized."

 

You don't find that too often in civilian towns unless it's posted by a homeowner ... or a no-nonsense business. 

 

In the first shooting, it was two  DoD LEOs who were the first responders.  One of them was shot by the domestic terrorist and the other put the shooter down.

 

In the second instance, it was a Army MP who confronted the killer who then took his own life.

 

Then they wrote the reports.

 

The intervention by DoD and the MP's no doubt resulted in the situation becoming worse, but no response, no matter how quick could possibly be as fast as meeting force with force on site when the incident began.

 

And you know what that means. 

 

 


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